Christopher Hansard - Tibetan Bon Medicine

[bobdezon]

Jelly babies used to be called "Peace babies" when they first appeared in 1919. They have never been called "Abandoned or Unwanted babies" in any official capacity.

[davron]

Thanks, but dam! That was my best story from England, just goes to show I should have been more 'skeptical' and that British soldiers lie a lot.

Davron

[mahakala]

Jelly babies used to be called "Peace babies" when they first appeared in 1919. They have never been called "Abandoned or Unwanted babies" in any official capacity.

Do you have a link or reference "proving" that?

[bindeweede]

Do you have a link or reference "proving" that?

Sorry.Not speaking for Bob.

So after the First World War Bassetts introduced a special sweet to celebrate peace. They called them Peace Babies. And indeed what better way to celebrate peace than chomp on a baby. A few years (and wars) later the Peace Babies became Jelly Babies which has to be one of the more successful name changes in confectionary history.

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Basset_s_Jelly...Review_5484322

Also

http://www.mrsomalleys.co.uk/bassett...bies-p-68.html

[bindeweede]

Not unless you can correctly identify why an increasingly common medical procedure is named after a City in Israel.

Is the procedure named after the city in Israel? I presume you are talking of the caesarean section.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/ce...esarean_2.html

Also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesarean_section

[bobdezon]

Do you have a link or reference "proving" that?

Yes I do, but its nice to see you actually questioning an answer for once. You may become a sceptic after all Its also a very easy subject to research, with no "hidden agenda", so you can be assured the information you find is real and accurate (if consistant)

Ps. Thanks bindeweed

[mahakala]

Yes I do, but its nice to see you actually questioning an answer for once. You may become a sceptic after all Its also a very easy subject to research, with no "hidden agenda", so you can be assured the information you find is real and accurate (if consistant)

Ps. Thanks bindeweed

Yes, I receive consistant and reliable relief from muscle strain using my Traumeel Ointment, from mosquito bites using my Apis Gel; just as accupuncture and Atimonium Tart consistantly and reliably improves my breathing, without side effects, and with long term improvement.

[bobdezon]

Yes, I receive consistant and reliable relief from muscle strain using my Traumeel Ointment, from mosquito bites using my Apis Gel; just as accupuncture and Atimonium Tart consistantly and reliably improves my breathing, without side effects, and with long term improvement.

And you just had to ruin it didnt you?

[KrisKrowe]

Be sure to get your beauty sleep apprentice, I think I see your Karma pulling into the driveway.

Hi Sarama

Hope youre well despite the rain.

Your prediction has come true and the fairy will definitely be falling off her box laughing when she reads all the stuff on Bowe from Tibetan Way.

You can find them at

http://www.tibetanway.co.uk/rebuttal.html

http://tibetanway.blogspot.com/

http://jeff-bowe.blogspot.com/

http://jeffreybowe.blogspot.com/

The first 2 have the same info but the other 2 each have different info on Bowe himself.

Its obvious now that Bowe knows nothing about Tibetan Medicine and has been making up stories. I think the guys at Tibetan Way are pretty upset about Bowe pretending the Dalai Lama's people support the garbage hes been writing.

Mucho Karma on the way.

Have a good one

KK

[Sarama]

Hi Sarama

Hope youre well despite the rain.

Your prediction has come true and the fairy will definitely be falling off her box laughing when she reads all the stuff on Bowe from Tibetan Way.

You can find them at

http://www.tibetanway.co.uk/rebuttal.html

http://tibetanway.blogspot.com/

http://jeff-bowe.blogspot.com/

http://jeffreybowe.blogspot.com/

The first 2 have the same info but the other 2 each have different info on Bowe himself.

Its obvious now that Bowe knows nothing about Tibetan Medicine and has been making up stories. I think the guys at Tibetan Way are pretty upset about Bowe pretending the Dalai Lama's people support the garbage hes been writing.

Mucho Karma on the way.

Have a good one

KK

Tink has definitely had a few too many (laughs) as of late.
and, If I were more graphically inclined I would have changed the
"B" and "A" to "B" and "S", to reflect the more aptly named "BS" Box (a.k.a. Bullshit Box) that most of us sit all too comfortably on.

Nice work KK.
With Bowe out of the way maybe many more serious discussions can get under way. I sympathised with him up until the point he began moving far behind the realm of skepticism and a fairly healthy line of questioning into what you seem to be exposing as a somewhat lengthy list of lies.

I also think the lot on RR should move on over to a more credible forum.
Not necessarily this one, but one more to do with their original queries and concerns.
If any of them do have any legitimate complaint after seeking more serious help and guidance through legal means, not to mention more serious practitioners, they might actually be taken more seriously themselves. However if they insist on bringing in scorned women to testify against an apparent "Love Guru" (sorry, could not help myself)
as 'evidence' then they continue to alienate anyone with a genuine grievance.
They've kind of outdone themselves on the Cult Education Cult.

S

[Sarama]

ehm, more "serious" discussions like for instance "jelly babies" "Peace babies" "Abandoned or Unwanted babies" and lastly "b*stards"

binde, bob, and Dav! What are you lads on about now?!

[vaidya]

Hi Sarama

Hope youre well despite the rain.

Your prediction has come true and the fairy will definitely be falling off her box laughing when she reads all the stuff on Bowe from Tibetan Way.

You can find them at

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Its obvious now that Bowe knows nothing about Tibetan Medicine and has been making up stories. I think the guys at Tibetan Way are pretty upset about Bowe pretending the Dalai Lama's people support the garbage hes been writing.

Mucho Karma on the way.

Have a good one

KK

Don't know about Bowe and his motivations, but his point that Tibetan Way is "using" the popularity of Tibet to market products that are in no way Tibetan is still valid.

In the blogs above (which I had to delete otherwise my post would have been rejected), there is a question about Angelica sinensis (dang gui), which is certainly used in Tibetan medicine, but what is unclear is if the extract in question in the "Woman's Choice" formula is the crude herb or the prepared form processed according to the dictates of Chinese medicine (I will guess it is likely the latter, since this is the most common form in TCM, and hence the most common form in the marketplace).

Regardless, the "Woman's Choice" formula on the Tibetan Way website is a standard formula clearly designed by a Western herbal practitioner, evidenced by the inclusion of botanicals such as Cimicifuga racemosa and Viburnum opulus that are native to North America and are not used in Tibetan Medicine. This is what Bowe was referring to: marketing a non-Tibetan formula under the auspices of a Tibetan ideology, seemingly, as a cynical marketing ploy. The claim that these formulas are comprised of non-Tibetan botanicals in order to preserve Tibetan plants as a sustainable choice is also questionable, since it seems that the person who made these formulas has zero knowledge of actual Tibetan medical protocols, much like Christopher Hansard himself.

[vaidya]

Davron, I couldn’t get one of those spiders you mentioned but I did switch from Google to Yahoo (are you a shreholder?) as suggested. I yahood ‘Jeff Bowe’. I got to page 12 and you would not believe how many different disguises he has. This guy is seriously cunning.

(Jeff) Bowe is a regional vice president for The Resource Development Group, a business consulting company.

For over 25 years Jeff Bowe has been honing his artistic skills and increasing the depth of his understanding of pure radiant color.

Jeff Bowe is a professional sales trainer, sales coach, and outsourced sales manager.

Training Account Manager Jeff Bowe recognizes Hallmark Inns & Resorts,

Jeff Bowe, Regional Vice President and Partner of the Resource Development Group LLC

Jeff Bowe, former town chairman,

Jeff Bowe, Eagle Point Chairman,

Jeff Bowe, Superintendent of Industries at FPI's Estill facility

Jeff Bowe of Benham Press (Indianapolis)

Jeff Bowe's is also running a campaign set around the U1-U3 series. Jeff has done a wonderful map of the Saltmarsh area

I commissioned Jeff Bowe to paint me a medicine wheel

The speaker, Jeff Bowe, is an adjunct college instructor

Guest Presenter: Jeff Bowe-Radiant Color Therapy

forty-one images by internationally acclaimed color therapist Jeff Bowe

Hey! My name is Jeff Bowe, I came over from the UK to attend the Navan march and spent a night at the Camp.


I even came across another forum discussing Christopher Hansard and they quoted Jeff Bowe as if he were something of an expert on Tibet:

I refused to be outwitted by the man and Yahood ‘Jeff Bowe UFO’.

Davron, you’re dead right. There are two sources linking Jeff Bowe to UFOs. One is the Rick Ross Forum (something to do with cults) and the other is this website. Isn’t that amazing? I wonder if they have anyone in common.

are we supposed to take this post seriously? is Jeff/Jeffery Bowe such an uncommon name? if all these names above WERE the same person, well, we should at least accord this personal a profound degree of respect for their apparently amazing energy!! what a lot of silliness...

[Sarama]

are we supposed to take this post seriously? is Jeff/Jeffery Bowe such an uncommon name? if all these names above WERE the same person, well, we should at least accord this personal a profound degree of respect for their apparently amazing energy!! what a lot of silliness...

Welcome vaidya,

In regards to your above query, the answer is unequivocally, unmistakably, explicitly, NO. Apprentice is rather transparently displaying the classic characteristics of a "troll" and not the sort found in the story of the Three Billy Goats gruff as previously discussed.

What we know of the Tibetan Way site is really very little.
It was started approximately 9 months ago, therefore December 2007(?)
and was virtually unknown until Jeffrey Bowes began directing his attention to their wares.
We are aware that Roderick Lane and Stephanie Wright were former colleagues of Christopher Hansard and coincidently both are now linked to the site through Roderick Lane's own site.
All titles, descriptions, and formulas are not just merely similar but are an exact match of those used previously by Hansard's online businesses and therefore safe to assume that they are indeed those very same products now being sold by Tibetan Way.
We do not actually know WHO is behind Tibetan Way nor the sales of the products previously owned by Christopher Hansard, but it is safe to say that Chris Farmer is what he says he is and is merely the designer or host of the site. We do not know who his clients are, and he is not obliged to tell us either.

After reading your post, and having read through RR, I am going to conclude that you know what you are talking about regarding the herbal formulas, their origins and perhaps even their formulator?
So having knowledge of these things, how is it the products are still being marketed as having Tibetan influences on a Tibetan website?

KK, do you know? vaidya do you?

Whomever is responsible evidently had or has an association with Hansard. I'm still very curious as to what Roderick Lane's involvement is and am having a little trouble believing the explanation that it is nothing more than a coincidence that he has personally linked himself to a site that was otherwise off the radar, or still in beta testing stages in fact.

I'm listening...

and KK, I've spoken with Chris on this forum, but I still have the niggling feeling that he is quite possibly being used by his own clients somehow and is defending them because he is a good person. I question why he has been put consistently on the front-lines in their stead?

[mahakala]

and KK, I've spoken with Chris on this forum, but I still have the niggling feeling that he is quite possibly being used by his own clients somehow and is defending them because he is a good person. I question why he has been put consistently on the front-lines in their stead?[/quote]

It is a good question. Obviously, since the formulas are being presented in identical fashion, either Hansard or his former associates are involved. The formulas are also identical to many of those sold in Canada under the name Wildrose. It is all very........weird.