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    Default Tunbridge Wells homeopathic hospital to close.

    http://dcscience.net/?p=167

    It's rather pleasing to see rationality winning out over pseudoscience for a change.

    Homeopathy is a completely untenable system of healthcare from a scientific point of view: what is homeopathy?

    As with all irrational beliefs it can be argued that people gain from it (placebo effects etc.) which is fair enough but to do so on the NHS, at taxpayers' expense, using money that could be spent on things that are proven to work, is an indulgence and a waste.

    This is not a question of whether homeopathy works (it doesn't even though many believe in it) but a question of whether the small placebo benefits people gain are worth the cost.

    I certainly have never thought so; especially when one considers the alternative treatments the money could be spent on.

    Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for these anachronistic 'homeopathic hospitals' and a sign that we're at last leaving this 19th century psedoscience behind us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Jackson View Post
    http://dcscience.net/?p=167

    It's rather pleasing to see rationality winning out over pseudoscience for a change.

    Homeopathy is a completely untenable system of healthcare from a scientific point of view: what is homeopathy?

    As with all irrational beliefs it can be argued that people gain from it (placebo effects etc.) which is fair enough but to do so on the NHS, at taxpayers' expense, using money that could be spent on things that are proven to work, is an indulgence and a waste.

    This is not a question of whether homeopathy works (it doesn't even though many believe in it) but a question of whether the small placebo benefits people gain are worth the cost.

    I certainly have never thought so; especially when one considers the alternative treatments the money could be spent on.

    Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for these anachronistic 'homeopathic hospitals' and a sign that we're at last leaving this 19th century psedoscience behind us.
    John,

    Shortly after I joined this forum, I printed off your analysis of homeopathy, read and absorbed it. I'm sure you will tell if I'm wrong, but if the dilution of active ingredients increases their effectiveness, taken to an absurd extreme, would not the most effective result from taking the substance be to just look at it, and take none at all????


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    So closing the hospital will make it more effective?
    "You got to use your brain." - McKinley Morganfield

    I keep getting this terrible feeling of deja woo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    So closing the hospital will make it more effective?

    Good one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Muck oGentry View Post
    Good one!
    I am SSSSOOOO slow, but I get there in the end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bindeweede View Post
    John,

    Shortly after I joined this forum, I printed off your analysis of homeopathy, read and absorbed it. I'm sure you will tell if I'm wrong, but if the dilution of active ingredients increases their effectiveness, taken to an absurd extreme, would not the most effective result from taking the substance be to just look at it, and take none at all????
    I'm not going to answer for John, but I did hear that Rajan Sankaran proposed that only the idea of taking a remedy would suffice.

    I heard that from my partner, who studied homeopathy years ago.
    Confucius he say: Learning without thinking is useless. Thinking without learning is dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindeweede View Post
    I am SSSSOOOO slow, but I get there in the end.
    Well, that'll larn me. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Muck oGentry View Post
    Well, that'll larn me. :-)
    Sorry. I do not understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bindeweede View Post
    Sorry. I do not understand.
    It's for me to apologize, not you. I thought you were being ironical rather than lighthearted. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Muck oGentry View Post
    It's for me to apologize, not you. I thought you were being ironical rather than lighthearted. Sorry.
    Hey, am I bovvered? Do I look.....? What's it all about?
    Dunno.


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    Default Re: Tunbridge Wells homeopathic hospital to close.

    OK. Now, where did you get the avatar from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Muck oGentry View Post
    It's for me to apologize, not you. I thought you were being ironical rather than lighthearted. Sorry.
    Look, you are so brainy, I have absolutely no idea what you are on about. This place intimidates me - so many brainy folks. I am simply so pleased that people like Cuddles and Araneus, and others, too many to mention, have not destroyed me. I just feel I have been tolerated, nothing more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Muck oGentry View Post
    OK. Now, where did you get the avatar from?
    www.avatrsdb.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by bindeweede View Post
    What's the point of a link that doesn't work

    www.avatarsdb.com

    Sorry about that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Muck oGentry View Post
    OK. Now, where did you get the avatar from?
    Strangely enough, I've seen it on a thread about homoeopathy before: it used to appear here, but the person who started it has since changed her avatar.
    "You got to use your brain." - McKinley Morganfield

    I keep getting this terrible feeling of deja woo.

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