She said she was too intimidated by nasty skeptics, and left, if I remember correctly who you mean.Originally Posted by filippo lippi
'twas ever thus
If that was Nasib, I offered help with the trasnscript but she left citing an abusive PM.
Her account now appears to have been deleted - I hope that before deleting it John has checked her messages and quietly taken any action he deemed necessary.
Oh dear
Hi,
I stumbled accross your website by pure mistake. I was actually looking for some positive feedback as to what people thought of Sally Morgan.. I have just spent the last hour reading all of the posts related to this thread, very intersting reading.
My younger sister went missing 18 months ago, she is suspected to be dead. The police have been unable to find her.
I am generally a sceptical person, but like many gullible people I fell for the Sally Morgan rubbish. I sent an E-Mail through her website asking how much it would be and if it was possible to get a reading on the show. The reply I got back was from somebody on her behalf stating; Her diary for the 2007 show is full but the 2008 bookings would start in December. If I sent my name and a contact number somebody would be in touch
Last week I received a call from a lady called Fern saying that I had made the short list and would be contacted soon to notify me as to whaether or not I had made it onot the shows.
So the point of my post is ....... If the police have been unable to find my sister, there has been no trace of her ie phone records, bank records, tax records and national insurance numbers. Then will Sally Morgan be able to say where she is??
If I get through to the shows, which after reading this I hope so as I will be able to see first hand how much she lies lol, then I will be able to let you all know what she is really like.
Steph
Sally Morgan is a proven liar stephw. She will no doubt tell you something. It will not be able to help you though. Psychics and mediums often claim to assist in cases like these but they do not. It is purely for self promotion. I do hope your sister is alive and well, but please dont bother with psychics and mediums as they cannot assist you because their "gift" is imaginary.
stephw,
Please, please, use this forum that is designed to assist families of missing people:
http://www.projectjason.org/forums/index.php
It is also set up for the UK, although it is at early stages yet.
It is run by a wonderful woman called Kelly Jablowski, whose sone Jason went missing over 5 years ago. She runs a blog:
http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com/
and as part of that blog she ran a series of posts about psychic and how they interfere with the searching, coping and grieving processes of families of the missing. Those entries start here:
http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com...chics-and.html
I write about updates to the site here:
http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1545
I would implore you not to subject yourself to the heartache and pain that a 'psychic' can subject you to. You do not need to feel guilty for not following this route - it is not a valid part of the efforts that you can be making. If any psychic could actually do this, it would be a known, proven and used system by the police everywhere. Instead, psychics rely on publicising themselves using these tragic cases, by claiming to have helped the police. We have a list here in the reference section where we have asked various police forces about their use of psychics:
http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=25
None claim to use them, and many have said that psychics claiming to have helped the police have merely done what any member of the public can do by contacting them with any suspicions or information. There's a particularly interesting response in there from the Midlands police department.
I am gutted to hear of your loss, but would be more upset to find your distress added to by one of these people. Please don't allow some 'psychic' to ride on the back of your personal trauma, and use you for their own gain. I am very interested in the situations around missing persons, as you can see, so please feel free to PM me, or let me know anything I can do to help.
I admire that you want to keep an open mind about this, but I want to also provide you with a rather harsh warning. You laugh off the idea of this woman lying to you. The situation goes a little deeper than that. I believe that you have enough stress and concerns about your sister, and I wish you every luck, and every ounce of strength you need to find her again. You need to understand how difficult it can be to hear some of the things a psychic can tell you.
In Kelly's blog I mentioned before, she tells of her visit to a psychic, who tells her her son is dead. Not only that, but she describes how he was picked up by a paedophile, and hit in the head when he refused to comply. Kelly's loving living memories of her son were replaced for a long time by her imagining his death, what he went through, did he die quickly and was he thinking of her when he went?
There's a psychic in America called Sylvia Browne (I recommend http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com) who told the parents of one lost girl that their daughter had been sold into sex slavery in Japan. The child was already long dead and near their home, as her body was discovered later. Sylvia told another family graphic details of their son's death, and how he was speaking his mother's name as he died. That boy was later found alive and reasonably well having been abducted by a local man and kept in his home.
There are many more examples, and I just think you should spare yourself the possibility of having very traumatic images put in your mind. I'm sure you dream up enough of those already.
If you can, please use Kelly's forum to publicise your sister's information, and a few other sites I recommend are:
http://uk.missingkids.com/
http://someoneismissing.com/uk/
http://www.psni.police.uk/index/appe...ng_persons.htm
Again, let me know if I can do anything to help spread the word and description about your sister.
Why would you have to go on the show for her to give you a reading?
I'm sorry, but that is just exploitation of the highest order. Anyone with any compassion and who really had such an ability, would just help you there and then.
If this is true, I feel very angry towards Sally Morgan.
I can only echo what Chillzero and others have said. If Sally Morgan's gift was genuine she would be helping people on demand and not charging for it.
I would have no issue with psychics charging, if they could offer any evidence of the value for the cost. By that I mean that they deserve to make a living if it is their sole occupation - as with private investigators who search for missing people. They should require payment only on successful results in a case, however, and so far, that has never happened. But, when it comes to missing persons, it's all too easy to make use of that situation for personal gain.I can only echo what Chillzero and others have said. If Sally Morgan's gift was genuine she would be helping people on demand and not charging for it.
I'm in complete agreement. The Sally Morgans and Sylvia Browne's of this world are nothing but despicable vultures preying on the most vulnerable and exploiting their situations to gain publicity for themselves.
Steph,
I so hope you will think twice about getting roped into this "show" farce, because that's really all it is. I can't see what good can come out of it for you and your family.
Chillzero does seem to have some experience in this area and has given some really good advice and alternative avenues to follow, areas where you'll hopefully find others in similar situations to yourself who can offer you and your family some genuine help and support.
Good luck Steph. I hope you find some peace of mind in what must be a pretty harrowing time for all of you.
Thankyou for all of your replies.
After all of your advice I have decided against using Sally Morgan for anything. I think the trouble is when you lose somebody that close to you, you are willing to try anything to get an answer as to their whereabouts.
I have spent the last 3 hours trawling through the links all of you posted. I must say I feel very clued up on many of the missing people out there right now.
If anybody knows any other way to help, below s the link for my missing sister. Who knows someone somewhere might know where she is.
http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/arey...l.asp?dsid=425
Many Thanks
Thank you for the info, and I will ensure it is posted up on the Project Jason site by the weekend. If I think of anything else I can do for you, I will let you know. Please let me know if I can do anything for you.
Thank you also for reconsidering - I know it must have been a tough decision, and I am sorry if I came across too harshly. I will do my best to promote your sister's case, and I wish you all the best in finding her.
stephw, I have sent you a Private Message.
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