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"Helping people psychically is not about riches or fame...I'm not sure where you get that idea from." - psychicsarah
Exqueeeeeeeeeze me?!!
I could add loads of links but I refuse to help them with their advertising!
It also ties in nicely with the diagnostic criteria for the narcissistic personality disorder taken from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narciss...ality_disorder
At least five of the following are necessary for a diagnosis (as with many DSM diagnoses, they must form a pervasive pattern; for example, a person who shows these criteria only in one or two relationships or situations would not properly be diagnosed with NPD):
Would be interesting in knowing exactly how many of these "psychics" would actually be diagnosed with this disorder.
- has a grandiose sense of self-importance
- is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
- believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by other special people
- requires excessive admiration
- strong sense of entitlement
- takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
- lacks empathy
- is often envious or believes others are envious of him or her
- arrogant affect.
"Helping people psychically is not about riches or fame...I'm not sure where you get that idea from." - psychicsarah
Exqueeeeeeeeeze me?!!
I could add loads of links but I refuse to help them with their advertising!
Jocky,
Well said. And I agree that it is both. There are those who really believe they have this 'gift' and can help people. And there are those who have discovered ways to manipulate this 'gift' for their own benefit. Personally, if I was a psychic, I would request people’s permission before scrambling into their lives with all sorts of claims.
Quite. The people in question here are the parents and family of the missing child, and they have made it clear that they do not want such scrambling. Therefore, in what way is one being altruistic by offering it anyway?Originally Posted by Zaira
STOP THIS
This sort of ting must be stopped the damage it can cause is irreparable, I have past expectance with this sort of clap trap (I was a member of the Magic Circle) she is a fake! what you see on TV is not what transpires her researchers have prior knowledge of who she is going to meet and do a “job” on them gaining all the “private” info trust me it can be done !
I am not taking about the cold read because she is no using that method some researcher is doing a “job” on the interviewee
IF you have lost someone, the only thing I can say to you is time is the greatest healer, whatever you do DONT pay this charlatan money! Go to the place you pray, wherever that is or phone someone who is close to you but DO NOT pay this sort of person money!
Please don’t add any credibility to the fact she was on with Uri Geller, who is a known as a FAKE if you think this man can bend spoons you need help! Look in Google for bongo bender (Ali Bongo the magician who developed the bongo bender for bending spoons and keys)
Steve Bishop
I'd hope no-one here would think that appearing with the notorious cutlery-molester and 'ex'-magician Geller would add anything to anyone's credibility, unless they happened to be giving him a richly-deserved slapping.
Prior to anyone appearing on TV the production company will need to (and have to) verify that the people “appearing”are who they say they are, to this end the production company will send out someone to verify you are who you say you are !
So at this point the PC know your name your address your date of birth (they will insist in seeing a passport or driving licence) they may well ask for your Mum’s name or Dad’s name “for verification purposes”
Armed with this info you can conduct all sorts of “searches” Equifax one of the largest credit reference agencies in Europe hold a debase that is updated every twenty four hours (not just with credit information) with every death borth registered in the UK, so you have the person’s name and address you ask the name of the mum or Dad’s name armed with this you make a trip to birth deaths marriages in Holborn and ask for a duplicate birth certificate, armed with this info you go back to Equifax (they leak like a sive) and you conduct a search, have all up to date info.
Steve Bishop
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I wonder, if someone published a completely fabricated 'I was a deceitful researcher for Morgan' expose, would it be possible for them to be sued by Morgan without her having to come clean in court?
Note to readers:
Psychicsarah uses Sally Morgan as an example of a good (and presumably 'genuine') psychic.
Let me demonstrate how simple this claptrap is....
ME Ohhh Sally you are close to the name John...but I see another name Robert...
SALLY... yes that is my husband there his first and middle names
ME is there any significance to the number 26
SALLY wow that is remarkable that is my door number!
ME I see a man and a woman Tony ....Lynne
SALLY unbelievable they are my neighbours
(All this from 10 min's digging on the net)
Last edited by Steve Bishop; 23rd August 2007 at 11:54 AM.
I mentioned before that I believe it is quite real ‘extra brain activity’. I can see some ‘psychics’ looking for ways to convince people that they do have something going on… Perhaps they do, but they are misinterpreting it and seeking out facts on the net in order to substantiate what they are telling people.
Sorry, folks. Feel a rant coming on. I ask for your forgiveness in advance.
Calling all ‘Psychic’ folks! There is something going on and you are messing it up for the rest of us with your… Let’s say 'claims'. If it wasn't for your 'claims' we might be able to get someone to take it seriously and do some neurological investigation. But all the reputable people won't touch it with a barge poll!
From what I understand from my experiences is that it is YOU DOING IT! It really is ALL IN YOUR HEAD! It isn’t for anyone else, it’s for you. It is messages from you to you! Normally we wouldn’t be aware of this ‘mental activity’ but it appears that something happened to make us aware of it. It can be a gift or a curse it all depends on how you choose to see it.
The thing to remember is that YOU DON'T HAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE WORLD! YOU ARE NOT GIFTED OR SPECIAL! You just have some slightly unusual brain activity going on, probably because you were dropped on your head as a baby!
Aimed at no one in particular and all so called 'psychics' in general.
Rant over.
I’m off to do some meditating.
Hi.
It was this after watching Sally the other night that led me to join UKS. I was quite amazed at the appalling nature of it all.
She made some quite bad blunders, which is quite sloppy if she used researchers rather than just cold reading. And why is it that people just make what she says fit???
Also. It's quite ridiculous how the link between the spirit world and this one is so variable; it seems quite easy to get quite complicated information across very clearly yet rather difficult to get simple names across without getting garbled.
"is there an Isaac???"
"Oh, wow, you mean Ice Man!"
FFS!!!!
And how come every woman had a fertility problem???
Arghhh.
I need a lie down.
Because a lot of celebrities are actually pretty thick?
Then they need beating with a wet fish.
The human urge to make bizarre nonsense make some sort of sense is far too convenient for people like Sally.
Talking of bizarre nonsense. I have experienced spirit entities, but I couldn't understand what they were saying. And being a young and rather aggressive Scots lass back then, I lost my head with them and told them to make themselves clearer or F*** off. Surprise! Surprise! They left.
It happened a few times. I may have listened to too many old Scottish tales told by my grandmother. To begin with I was afraid but after a while, with no useful information coming from it, I got pissed off with it and simply asked them to leave. Being older and less aggressive in later years, and perhaps feeling a little guilty at my earlier reactions, I added the suggestion that they keep trying because there were other people out there who were better at this than me (back then I thought there was). I guess I just wasn't very good at it. Or perhaps I have been suffering from a neuroses or a psychoses all my life and never knew it. Who really gives a penny, all anyone has ever got out of them is a message to let someone else know that they are ok. I can do that! They are dead! Of course they are okay! They are free of this insane world and no longer have to endure the trials and tribulation of the human condition!
Why don't 'Psychic' do something useful, like help us all to win the lottery?!!
Now if I could do that we'd all be rich!
The 'spirits' seem to hang around our world and retain the cares and feelings they had whilst alive. Surely the spirit world has something more interesting to offer? There must be something better for them to do? Otherwise what's the point in dying?
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