Ha, Ha, Ha, very funny.
As the saying goes, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions," and I might add, "the road is peopled by people on both sides of the divide."
So, why do you post here exactly?Originally Posted by mahakala
Ha, Ha, Ha, very funny.
As the saying goes, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions," and I might add, "the road is peopled by people on both sides of the divide."
I think there is a place for sceptical enquiry and much of the subject matter discussed here needs a critical eye. But the tendency, I think, is to just wash everything that we don't understand, or is marketed foolishly, with one brush. Homeopathy is a good example. I've been using non classical homeopathy on myself and family for many years and have seen its benifit. That has been a godsend since I am allergic to some antibiotics and was getting sick from allergy medicine. Yet sceptics, because homeopathy is not understood or there is a lot of fanaticism associated with it, decide it is just bunk and therefore everyone who says no it is not is delusional. The facts is, I have way to much experience with it to have it put down to delusion.
On the subject of Hansard and Bowe, please consider this: there is not one thread of evidence or testimony that he actually abused anyone, in the legal sense of the term. Obviously he has had major interpersonal problems. But he is not a practitioner anymore, or at least so it appears. He also no longer presents himself as a bon laiku, or whatever. So does that means he doesn't have the right to sell supplements on-line, peddle his books or do seminars based on those books - in other words, make a living. At what point does the sceptic say, ok, I've done my job and this guy has cleaned up his act. Or is the sceptic really interested in completely destroying the man and his livlihood? Who has the right to do that? And as far as homeopathy goes, who has the right to claim another person's experience, regardless of how extensive it is, is all wrong?
So in sum, I am all for sceptical enquiry, but there is a point where it becomes a kind of smug, holier than thou intellectual fascism, and to that I am opposed, and of those sceptics I am very sceptical.
FredCarr* claims that $cientology has helped him, his family and hundreds of thousands of others, yet smug, holier-than-thou, intellectual fascists decide it is just bunk.
http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/sho...2714#post32714
*Link to Jref topic http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=104325&page=9
Nope. We say homeopathy doesn't work because it doesn't. 200 years to come up with some evidence that it can do anything, or come up with a vaguely coherent theory and what do they have. Absolutely nothing. They can't even agree on what homeopathy is or how you should practice it. The fact is, if you think your anecdotes are evidence of anything, you do not have the slightest clue how science actually works.
That is the most pathetic head up your ass response anyone could come up with.
Which is just the point.
Get a life.
Evidently, you don't give a fuck about real people and their problems or their experience.
So stop pretending you're anything more than an internet cowboy and get stuffed.
That was obviously Mahakala talking to himself/herself. What an idiot.
A post of a spoiled teenager.
Don't care about real people with real problems eh? What's wrong with finding real solutions?
Do you think skeptics have any control over what's real and works and what is rubbish. They choose to find the truth and reveal quackery for what it is.
Perhaps a real person with a real problem will reap some benefit from these efforts and avoid the false, dead end hope of groundless belief.
And spreading lies about the dangers of vaccines is?
Well done you.
Nah - that's the post of someone who's run been crushed by rational arguments, next up are the cries of "Strawman!!"
Nah, its the post of somebody that is stunned by the arrogant ego-maniacal ranting of a group of people who think their back of the pub expertise on a subject is reasonable, while the experience of millions of other individuals is delusional, including that of professional athletes and sports trainers, and medical professionals all around the world.
Yeah, homeopathy is a conspiracy of unimaginable proportion. Wow. I didn't know.
And believe it or not little boys and little girls, there is all kinds of things science cannot explain.
You guys would fit right in during the middle ages. Next time you come accross a homeopath throw him in the lake and see if he floats.
It really is a sign of lack of intelligence you know, when everything is perceived in black and white terms, no shades of grey, no good and bad together under the same subject line. In case you are not sure what I am talking about, I'm talking about vaccines. Anyone who is not sceptical of the pharmaceutical industry is a fool. Do the research. Real research. That doesn't mean you have to be against all vaccines. Woops, sorry, that kind of thinking is a little to sophisticated. Sorry.
You guys are pathetic. But keep up the good work. Better to keep guys like you all in the same place.
Maybe you could get a job with advertising standards. That's really the level your criticism operating at.
And millions think the White Male is the supreme expression of humanity.
Are they right too?
Indistinguishable from placebo effect.Yeah, homeopathy is a conspiracy of unimaginable proportion. Wow. I didn't know.
Like what? Rampant credulity?And believe it or not little boys and little girls, there is all kinds of things science cannot explain.
Oh the irony.You guys would fit right in during the middle ages. Next time you come accross a homeopath throw him in the lake and see if he floats.
You have no idea what a skeptic is, do you?
Correct. They are big business out to make a profit.It really is a sign of lack of intelligence you know, when everything is perceived in black and white terms, no shades of grey, no good and bad together under the same subject line. In case you are not sure what I am talking about, I'm talking about vaccines. Anyone who is not sceptical of the pharmaceutical industry is a fool.
Correct again. My children received all their shots. Thank you pharmaceutical industry.Do the research. Real research. That doesn't mean you have to be against all vaccines.
You guys are pathetic. But keep up the good work. Better to keep guys like you all in the same place.
Maybe you could get a job with advertising standards. That's really the level your criticism operating at.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a vaccine have an active ingredient?
[QUOTE=mahakala;32886]And believe it or not little boys and little girls, there is all kinds of things science cannot explain./QUOTE]
Science generally can explain it, "It's bollox" and "People are idiots". You just don't want to hear that answer
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