£179.00!!!!!!
They're mounting an EMF meter on a laptop?
Surely a laptop would emit quite a large amount of EM radiation and interfere with the readings?
I like thewhich I took to mean:Videos can be edited for you by the software
"Ghosts can be edited into your video for you by the software"
You can always spot a pseudo-site when there are no figures / spec for the machines and sensors they claim 'measures stuff'
No sensitivity data, sample rate, noise levels, frequency weighting if there is any, etc.....so basically - you dont know what your measuring or how reliable your measurements are.
Now, thats not science. >:(
I'd love to see the source code for this thing. I wouldn't put it past these people to add random positive readings!
Computer software which is not prone to user error?? It should qualify for Randi's million!This system is not prone to “Human Error” will not miss anything.
Aha, there's the real selling point. Pose value, and a gizmo with which to baffle the credulousBe ahead of the crowd, this will set you aside from amateur unprofessional groups, gaining you further credit with clients and venues.
If groups are wanting to spend that kind of money, invest it in some decent public liability insurance or bespoke ethics training ..
Its the 'perception of doing science' rather than the actual doing of science that concerns me.
I think some of you have missed the point here, and been too sceptical. I am lead to believe the software does not modify video it condenses hours of video footage to the points where the sensors have been tripped. Does this make sense now? i think before you criticise the software you should review it first...isn't that how you become credible in your arguments.
Hey, I was a participant in the Guinness World Record Ghost Hunt, on Tuesday at Alton Towers, Guess What!.... 850 odd "believers!" took part in the Psychological “monitoring/experiment” run by Derby Uni. I saw some measuring stuff in each room , it was reading EMF, temp…. etc all wired into a laptop. From what I saw with my Sceptical goggles on, you cannot dispute the environmental logging off the event as it looked to me like sound science, simple effective logging… however the participants were all very excited or cold and a few were expecting to be thrilled or entertained, rather than being scientifically monitored.
As a fee paying sceptic I got sent this link after the event , and I eagerly wait for my Guinness World Record Breaking Certificate.
WORLD RECORD SMASHED AT THE WORLD’S BIGGEST GHOST HUNT
Fright Nights would like to thank all the attendees of the World’s Biggest Ghost Hunt event for helping smash the world record for the “The most systematic and scientific study of an alleged haunted location”. The previous record was 250 people and our new record now stands at approximately 840!
The standards for the world record were originally set by Professor Richard Wiseman of Hertfordshire University and is based on the observa tions of the attendees as they walk from room to room. To break the record, Derby University had to follow the strict guidelines set by the original attempt and then relay those same standards to the “Hex” ride. Throughout the experiment we had to augment a strict no talking policy (to ensure there was no conferring) and no photography so that lighting and emf levels were not affected.
Supermeters successfully provided their Paranormal PC system to record air temperature, ionisation, humidity, light and sound levels, magnet and electric fields in every room. The Paranormal PC system has provided statistics for the whole night so it can be crossed referenced with attendee’s experiences.
There were a large number of experiences reported by attendees. In Room 1 many people reported feelings of oppression, feeling drained of energy, feeling sick, hearing or seeing things down the far end towards the main door. One group heard footsteps which all 3 observers in the room heard too.
In Room 2 a large amount of people put that they felt really sad and there was multiple reports of an unusual smell. Room 3 people saw shadowy figures or felt they were being watched.
In all rooms there are a large number of reports of drops in temperature and feeling sick, dizzy or having a headac he. There were also reports of being touched, a hand being held, hair being pulled, an old lady in red was reported to have been seen by one group.
There is an incredible amount of data still to be processed and this is due to take several months to analyse and ultimately produce a report. As soon as Dr Rebecca Knibb of Derby University completes this report, we will ensure that all attendees will be notified of links or download areas.
On the confirmation of breaking the world record by the Guinness World Record organisation a certificate of participation will be made available.
Links:
Paranormal PC - www.supermeters.co.uk
Centre for Psychological Research in Human Behaviour - http://ibs.derby.ac.uk/~Rebecca/centre/index.html
All,
I am very disappointed that most people have slammed the ParanormalPC software and hardware without either contacting Supermeters UK to ask for specifications or trying to find out if anyone is using the ParanormalPC software and hardware. :(
After all who has mega bucks to shell out for expensive equipment? When other priorities such as bringing up a family or paying off a huge mortgage etc takes most of the amateur investigators hard earned cash each week or month.
Even the comment regarding source code is unprofessional, instead of whining and picking faults with the equipment on a forum, why don't someone take some initiative and put the questions and queries to Supermeters UK themselves.
I see no harm in being a sceptic, however I do see harm in criticising. Especially when no further data has been acquired from a credible source, perhaps being too sceptical can have it's own disadvantages?
Being a Sceptic is like being a “Control”, sometimes the voice of reason, sometimes not, which ever the case, If you define yourself as a sceptic and do not account for your comments, then you are of no value to the sceptical community as the last thing it needs is OPINION MASQUERADING AS FACT as being used in this thread previously.
I’m am sure that when “the armature” Paranormal clubs, start using that ParanormalPC stuff there will be a wealth of evidentiary findings to be added to the pool of available knowledge, afterall a well recorded NULL result is just as good as REAL reading, especially valuable when dealing with MEDIUMS.
vbloke, I saw that the meter gadgets at Alton Towers all had calibration dials, The group I was in someone did not turn off their mobile phone, and when it rang a big spike appeared on some moving graph plot on the screen, I was courteously asked to move back ( I think my intrest in gadgets was obvious and I needed to concentrate on the questionnaire and ambiance for the experiment).
Well said Howlin Shaolin.Originally Posted by Howlin Shaolin
Welcome to you new guys.
I've only had a quick, cursory look at the website but it is quite obvious that these products are aimed at the 'ghost hunter' types who are basically thrill seekers.
The idea of having computer equipment only serves to give a false air of legitimacy to what they're doing. Sure there's a market for this stuff, but science it ain't.
Let's see it for what it is.
Clever marketing, yes. Real science, no.
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Wow, the shills are out in force, aren't they?
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