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    Antibiotic era at an end?

    From The Guardian

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...lth-infections

    The era of antibiotics is coming to a close. In just a couple of generations, what once appeared to be miracle medicines have been beaten into ineffectiveness by the bacteria they were designed to knock out. Once, scientists hailed the end of infectious diseases. Now, the post-antibiotic apocalypse is within sight.

    Hyperbole? Unfortunately not. The highly serious journal Lancet Infectious Diseases yesterday posed the question itself over a paper revealing the rapid spread of multi-drug-resistant bacteria. "Is this the end of antibiotics?" it asked.
    "In many ways, this is it," Walsh tells me. "This is potentially the end. There are no antibiotics in the pipeline that have activity against NDM 1-producing enterobacteriaceae. We have a bleak window of maybe 10 years, where we are going to have to use the antibiotics we have very wisely, but also grapple with the reality that we have nothing to treat these infections with."
    Should we worry?

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by chaggle View Post

    Here we go again, the demise of the antibiotic era has been predicted every few years over the last few decades.
    A new and lucrative challange, nothing Pharma likes better.

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by chaggle View Post
    Should we worry?
    Will worrying help?

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Let me make sure I understand this:

    The article was published in 'The Guardian'?

    'The Guardian' is a yellow rag with no credibility with anyone with an IQ above ambient room temperature?

    If the above is true,why is the article being discussed here? Is it one of those eccentric English behaviours?

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drop Bear View Post
    'The Guardian' is a yellow rag with no credibility with anyone with an IQ above ambient room temperature?

    It has considerably better standing than The Mail which is the paper most frequently quoted here. Perhaps you would like to tell us which UK newspapers are better regarded than The Guardian as you are such an authority...

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    Well, it worries me. It worries me for my children, and particularly for my grandchildren. What sort of world will they have to live in? This is not "future generations" of the unseen sort that I'm worrying for, it's children who are between two and six.

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drop Bear View Post
    'The Guardian' is a yellow rag with no credibility with anyone with an IQ above ambient room temperature?
    And when you suggest a better quality UK newspaper, perhaps you could list Australian ones which are better quality as well.

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by chaggle View Post

    It has considerably better standing than The Mail which is the paper most frequently quoted here. Perhaps you would like to tell us which UK newspapers are better regarded than The Guardian as you are such an authority...
    No need to be snitty sunshine. It you look at my post again,you may notice I was asking a question, not making a statement.

    I have no idea if there are any well regarded daily papers in the UK.There are none in Australia. I buy only the Weekend Australian,mainly for the reviews and TV guide.It also has a couple of moderately literate columnists who are only slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan.There is also a token lefty who trolls the readership who is fun.

    PS I was also taking the piss:A person with an IQ of ambient room temperature would not be capable of reading so much has 'The Sun' (although he might like the pictures).

    Get over yourself.
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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drop Bear View Post
    No need to be snitty sunshine. It you look at my post again,you may notice I was asking a question, not making a statement.

    I have no idea if there are any well regarded daily papers in the UK.There are none in Australia. I buy only the Weekend Australian,mainly for the reviews and TV guide.It also has a couple of moderately literate columnists who are only slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan.There is also a token lefty who trolls the readership who is fun.

    PS I was also taking the piss:A person with an IQ of ambient room temperature would not be capable of reading so much has 'The Sun' (although he might like the pictures).

    Get over yourself.
    No you weren't you were making a statement and putting a question mark at the end. The whole post stinks of trolling and ignorance. It says nothing of value whatever.

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Is it really that important?
    Sure the Guardian is respected - however like all newspapers represents one particular take on events, in this case liberal left wing. It is OK for this bias to appeal to us, yet still recognise that it exists.
    No newspaper even the guardian is above a little fun poking - even if not accurate.

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drop Bear View Post
    'The Guardian' is a yellow rag with no credibility with anyone with an IQ above ambient room temperature?
    Quote Originally Posted by Drop Bear View Post
    I have no idea if there are any well regarded daily papers in the UK.
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    No newspaper even the guardian is above a little fun poking - even if not accurate.
    Very true, and I think the Guardian would be the first newspaper to agree with you. But the above posts were not poking fun, just a stupid gratuitous insult to the newspaper and anybody who reads it, from somebody who actually admits he has no idea what he is talking about. Pathetic.

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Janot View Post
    Very true, and I think the Guardian would be the first newspaper to agree with you. But the above posts were not poking fun, just a stupid gratuitous insult to the newspaper and anybody who reads it, from somebody who actually admits he has no idea what he is talking about. Pathetic.
    Yes,it was ignorant.I don't apologise for my ignorance. I've learnt from it. IE at least some people here think there is at least one British newspaper which has some journalistic integrity. I was judging by our papers. If what you say is true I envy you.

    I really was just taking the piss,it was not my intention to troll or otherwise give offence. I apologise if I did so.

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drop Bear View Post
    Yes,it was ignorant.I don't apologise for my ignorance. I've learnt from it. IE at least some people here think there is at least one British newspaper which has some journalistic integrity. I was judging by our papers. If what you say is true I envy you.
    FYI there are several UK newspapers which are regarded as quality products, as well as a whole pile of them which are not (including some which are about as low as it's possible to go). The poor-quality ones used to be called the "tabloids" as their page size was half that of the quality "broadsheets", but since some of the quality products have adopted the more compact and convenient tabloid layout, the poor ones now tend to be called the "red tops" from their liberal use of that colour ink in their usually sensational front pages.

    The quality newspapers, going from left to right (literally and politically) are the Guardian (Observer on Sunday), Independent, Times and Telegraph. There's also the more specialised Financial Times. You can read more about the various UK newspapers here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...United_Kingdom

    A slightly less serious summary:

    Times readers run the country,
    Telegraph readers think they run the country,
    Guardian readers wish they ran the country,
    Mirror readers would run the country if the Times readers didn't run it already,
    Mail readers don't know who runs the country,
    Express readers don't care who runs the country,
    and Sun readers don't give a damn who runs the country as long as her measurements exceed 38-24-36.

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    OK, even the Guardian has been known to get things wrong, but their standard of journalism is probably better than any other newspaper, and if a report comes from them, I would take it seriously. The problem is that you have no idea whether this is scaremongering to boost investment in new antibiotics, or whether it is really something to panic about. I almost died of peritonitis at the age of six, but was saved by antibiotics which had not been available a couple of years earlier. That kind of makes me think (but I don't know what).

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    Re: Antibiotic era at an end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Croydon Bob View Post
    Will worrying help?
    Quote Originally Posted by DrS View Post
    Well, it worries me. It worries me for my children, and particularly for my grandchildren. What sort of world will they have to live in? This is not "future generations" of the unseen sort that I'm worrying for, it's children who are between two and six.
    Quote Originally Posted by Janot View Post
    That kind of makes me think (but I don't know what).
    Well given that, as Bob says, there's no point in worrying, I'll just be glad that I don't have any children.

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