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    Default Vaccines cause autistic dogs?

    Ok, vets are money grabbing b'stards, from what all my friends tell me anyway.

    But is there any truth behind the 'science'? Are animals tested with numerous vaccines to see what the effects are? Is the evidence here just anecdotal?

    Vaccines given to dogs are making them ill, a pet charity claimed yesterday.
    Profit-hungry drug companies and vets are 'frightening' dog owners into inoculating their pets more often than necessary, according to Canine Health Concern.
    Some puppies have developed conditions including autism and epilepsy after a raft of injections, it warns.
    Catherine O'Driscoll, from the charity, said: 'We are not anti-vaccination. What we are saying is that currently our pets are receiving far too many.
    'The latest scientific research shows that after the first course of injections as a puppy most dogs are immune against these diseases for at least seven years, if not for life.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0hQWy5ra7
    Mousse from a bowl is very nice, but to put it on a person is demented!

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    Default Re: Vaccines cause autistic dogs?

    Quote Originally Posted by FarSideOfTheMoon View Post
    Ok, vets are money grabbing b'stards, from what all my friends tell me anyway.

    But is there any truth behind the 'science'? Are animals tested with numerous vaccines to see what the effects are? Is the evidence here just anecdotal?
    1. The story is in the Daily Mail. It is therefore very unlikely to be true.

    2. The language used is typical of anti-vax crap. I know it says "We are not anti-vaccination" but...

    3. The charity (http://www.canine-health-concern.org.uk/) is just one woman and she is a woo promoting loony: http://odriscollhealthcare.weebly.com/

    4. A google for autistic dogs doesn't throw up any serious websites (other than sites about dogs for autistic children), just shite like this: http://www.cocothebloggingdog.com/20...r-animals.html

    Point 1 above was really all that was needed. If it's in the Wail it is just random nonsense.
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    The problem is the `after` in the 3rd sentence. If something happens,then something else happens afterwards,why should there be any connection between the two occurences? The human mind has evolved to see causality,for `very good evolutionary reasons`,(to paraphrase Dawkins,Pinker,etc etc),where there is none.
    Humans have developed autism after receiving vaccinations as well. Has the mistaken MMR-autism media panic been adopted by the petvet world? You couldn`t make it up. Er hang on...
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    The story starts with:

    Profit-hungry drug companies and vets are 'frightening' dog owners into inoculating their pets more often than necessary, according to Canine Health Concern.
    but then at the end turns to "Charlie the Autistic Spaniel"

    So a story about vets making money by over-prescribing (true or not) is then extrapolated to implicate vaccines and autism. I also see that the owner "believes" his dog has autism.

    Not only utter drivel but unethical utter drivel.
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    It is drivel, isn't it.

    I know it is the Mail, but this article just seemed worse than the usual crap to me, maybe it was the certainty in which the article was written.

    Either way, looks like a piece thrown together quickly and without care, oh, that describes most of their content though.
    Mousse from a bowl is very nice, but to put it on a person is demented!

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