Is this possible?
Tesla coil? Or is that the result of energy?
We can see radiant energy
M
I think what you SEE must be visible energy - like lightening.
M
Is that the actual energy or is it the effect of the electricity burning the air...or something. (I admit, I know nothing about this, and I've had a beer.... time for eggy bread.)Originally Posted by Allo Allo
Energy is the capacity for doing work. It can't be seen.
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I found a website today called www.quantumtouch.com. They have a message board there and the people on these boards claim to be able to see and perceive energy running in someone and also to be able to perceive auras.
That is the main reason that I asked the question.
Some people can "see" auras etc.
Not that auras are real but some people are synaesthetes (they often 'smell' tastes and 'hear' colours etc. - emotion-colour synaesthesia probably accounting for most of the aura perception) and some people with certain forms of epilepsy also perceive colours around people.
So these people are not lying or deluded (in the derogatory sense), they just don't understand why it is they see these things. If the paranormal explanation is the only one they've come across then it will make perfect sense to them.
See: synaesthesia.
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I can smell bullshit - does that count?Originally Posted by John Jackson
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New agers etc try very hard and convince themselves that they can see auras etc.
This isn't the same as someone with synaesthesia because the new agers are purposefully trying to develop that 'skill'- or convince themselves they have it.
They will do exercises such as making people stand in front of a white or light coloured background, or placing their own hand against one. This supposedly makes the aura easier to see.
I wonder how much of this is people trying to convince themselves or others that they are 'special'.
Love
Kath
You’re right Kath. A lot of this is down to self-delusion by those who wish it was all true: seeing chakric energies etc.Some people do see things however, although it’s nothing paranormal.
In fact, boards like that one (Quantum touch) are a great read for those who wish to learn how people delude themselves in general.
For example, there’s a great thread where someone single-blind tested himself (!) See: this thread on tasting the difference between untreated wine and ‘energy-charged wine’.
Amazingly, he found what he expected to find
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So - am I right - lightening (that I see) is just electricity going someplace? It isn't actually energy? The googly bitsOriginally Posted by John Jackson
that shoot out from Tesla coils are electricity that I see? I suggested radiant energy - cause I can see light coming out of my light - but then I might be seeing light and not energy????
M
Lightning is electricity in the form of an electrostatic discharge. It is exactly the same as the shock you get when you rub your feet on a carpet in shoes and then touch a radiator and get a static shock, only much much bigger.
Electricity is energy in a different form. Heat is energy too. Energy is converted from one form to another. Just saying "energy" is like just referring to "a drink" when you're in a restaurant, looking at the wine list - you have a wide selection of different forms of "drink" available.
Tesla coils shoot out lightning - electricity.
Light is another form of energy, this time in the form of photons (particles of light). These can be converted by plants into chemical energy (photosynthesis) or by solar panels into electrical energy. Anything that can be made to do "work", or converted into another form can be called energy.
You winding a handle to wind up a bucket from a well is kinetic energy. A rock balanced on the top of a hill has potential energy. Energy is useful and can be made to do things, but, unless there is design in the system, it always goes to a more disorganised form, being able to do less and less work, until it becomes virtually useless (entropy).
Auras, chakras, etc are always referred to as "energy", but as you can see, they never get any more specific than just "energy" - every form of energy known to science has a name and a form and a method of propagation. Anything that couches itself in vague terms (and those that misuse quantum - a personal bugbear of mine) is usually something to be wary of.
Everything has energy. Energy itself cannot be seen only the effects of energy doing work can be seen.
Even visible light, pure energy, cannot be seen unless it interacts with something (such as the retina) and changes form (by doing work).
If Qi, or other vital energy, that alt. meddlers 'work' with was real then its effects should be measurable by the work it does on physical systems. No such work/interaction is detected, so there's no reason to suppose that this vital energy is real.
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Autistic kids (where I once worked IN THE OFFICE!Originally Posted by vbloke
- )were absolutely fascinated with light - tesla coil "bubbles", moving lights, rotating lights, coloured lights - they had a "light room" to "play" in - mmm - I don't know if autistic children "play" in the true sense - I'm just remembering really.
Thanks for this very helpful post.
Right now I'm going to test out my own "energy" - we have a big garden project on this weekend - I suspect by tonight my energy will be "entropic"!!!
M
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