Ignoring 'advice' brings the police!

[Mulder]

You should never ignore official advice in Britain these days it seems ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/8013447.stm

[Croydon Bob]

She's obviously a terrorist.

[lost thought]

The council and the police know best, honestly you would think that members of the public have rights.
When the council or the police give advice it is just a nice way of telling you to do what you are told, as you know they have your well being at heart.
And this is not a police state, not yet.

[MischiefMonkey]

This is local to me and maybe the local press reported more but the council do think they are acting in the old ladies best interests.

I have my doubts, but I am not party to all the information.

[brianp]

We've only heard one side of the story, so it's ridiculous to draw any conclusions. We can see quite clearly on the video that one part of the story gives a false impression, ie "But two social workers and four police officers with a warrant arrived to take her back and placed a blanket over her head as they did so." The video shows that there was no blanket over the old lady's head as she was wheeled out, and the social worker only deployed the blanket when she saw that they were being filmed. In retrospect, the action was probably inadvisable, but it does appear to have been a genuine effort to protect the lady's privacy. How much more of the story is equally 'distorted'.

[Trinoc]

Would people here be showing the same sort of outrage if a child who had been taken into care was removed by its parents and taken back home?

[Matt]

Would people here be showing the same sort of outrage if a child who had been taken into care was removed by its parents and taken back home?

No. Nor would they be showing the same sort of outrage if an escaped prisoner had been recaptured.

The difference of course is that a prisoner is in prison and a child is in care under order from the court. This lady was not in care under order of the court but on the advice (of the people who recieve payment for her care?)

A more appropriate analogy (to the way the story has been told) would be if the police acted upon "advice" to remove you from the corner shop and place you in their store instead.

[Trinoc]

No. Nor would they be showing the same sort of outrage if an escaped prisoner had been recaptured.

The difference of course is that a prisoner is in prison and a child is in care under order from the court. This lady was not in care under order of the court but on the advice (of the people who recieve payment for her care?)

A more appropriate analogy (to the way the story has been told) would be if the police acted upon "advice" to remove you from the corner shop and place you in their store instead.

Assuming of course that what we were told is what actually happened, and not just a story blown up by the press to encourage outrage and sell more papers. (They would never do that, surely?)

I look forward to hearing what happened from a source that doesn't ultimately boil down to simply believing what the media tell us.

[Matt]

Assuming of course that what we were told is what actually happened, and not just a story blown up by the press to encourage outrage and sell more papers. (They would never do that, surely?)

I look forward to hearing what happened from a source that doesn't ultimately boil down to simply believing what the media tell us.

Indeed. Confirmation that social services had just reason to suspect mistreatment or neglect would explain this action.

[Tomolac]

I also have to wonder if the battering ram just happened to be in the car, or I think it may just be standard procedure when a warrant has been issued. but 2 days seems hardly enough time for them to have reason to claim neglect. but as said, the newspaper is hardly impartial or thorough.