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    Truth Stranger than Fiction

    You can use all the critical thinking and logic you like...but in the end the truth will be stranger than fiction.

    Today's fiction is often tomorrow's fact...so what can be achieved by rejecting something outright because it does not agree with current scientific understanding.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3492919.stm


    Twinkle Twinkle Little Star

    Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
    How I wonder what you are!
    Up above the world so high,
    Like a diamond in the sky!

    When the blazing sun is gone,
    When he nothing shines upon,
    Then you show your little light,
    Twinkle, twinkle, all the night.

    Then the traveller in the dark,
    Thanks you for your tiny spark,
    He could not see which way to go,
    If you did not twinkle so.

    In the dark blue sky you keep,
    And often through my curtains peep,
    For you never shut your eye,
    Till the sun is in the sky.

    As your bright and tiny spark,
    Lights the traveller in the dark,—
    Though I know not what you are,
    Twinkle, twinkle, little star.

    Jane Taylor (1793 - 1824)

    Can you offer any stranger than fiction cases?

    Last edited by SorryImPsychic; 3rd May 2009 at 01:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SorryImPsychic View Post
    Today's fiction is often tomorrow's fact...
    ...but is far more often tomorrow's fiction.

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    Incidentally, Taylor's poem doesn't say that the star is a diamond - it just uses a simile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    Incidentally, Taylor's poem doesn't say that the star is a diamond - it just uses a simile.
    That's right - just a natural simile arising from stars appearance! So who would have thought an actual diamond was in the sky? See truth is stranger than the fiction.

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    What's so strange about carbon?

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    There are also clouds of amino acids, and other clouds of alcohol. There are stars made of degenerate atoms, or even degenerate nuclei, both far more exotic than crystalline carbon. The only reason the papers make such a fuss about a diamond star is the "Wow - think how much I could sell that for!" factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    What's so strange about carbon?
    Nothing is strange about carbon! The formation of a giant diamond in the sky is simply wonderfully ironic in view of " Twinkle twinkle little star ...like a diamond...how I wonder what you are!

    It is just like the saying "raining cats and dogs" as metaphor....what if it did rain "cats and dogs" in some form of pet virus contaminating atmosphere and water cycle! It's possible.

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    It has rained fish!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raining_animals

    By the way, I claim that diamond. It's mine, all mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO View Post
    By the way, I claim that diamond. It's mine, all mine.
    Too late - they all belong to Lucy, up in the sky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO View Post
    It has rained fish!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raining_animals

    By the way, I claim that diamond. It's mine, all mine.
    Yeah - and I think in Moses story in Bible one of the plagues is that it rains "frogs"...probably really happened at some time.

    Maybe Australia Government could claim the Diamond! It's in our airspace so to speak and we need the money.....
    Last edited by SorryImPsychic; 4th May 2009 at 07:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Williams View Post
    Too late - they all belong to Lucy, up in the sky...
    And so another fiction becomes truth:

    Lucy in the sky with Diamonds....a beautiful self fulfilling prophecy.
    Last edited by SorryImPsychic; 4th May 2009 at 07:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SorryImPsychic View Post
    Nothing is strange about carbon! The formation of a giant diamond in the sky is simply wonderfully ironic in view of " Twinkle twinkle little star ...like a diamond...how I wonder what you are!
    Why? You've already said it's a simile. It's certainly nothing to do with your assertion that "today's fiction is often tomorrow's fact".

    Do you have any evidence that the posited existence of large amounts of crystalline carbon has been "reject[ed] outright because it does not agree with current scientific understanding"?
    Last edited by Mojo; 4th May 2009 at 07:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SorryImPsychic View Post
    Lucy in the sky with Diamonds....a beautiful self fulfilling prophecy.
    You think this object is there as a result of John Lennon writing a song?

    ETA: And Lucy is up there with it?
    Last edited by Mojo; 4th May 2009 at 08:03 AM.

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    Re: Truth Stranger than Fiction

    Quote Originally Posted by SorryImPsychic View Post
    And so another fiction becomes truth:

    Lucy in the sky with Diamonds....a beautiful self fulfilling prophecy.
    Post hoc ergo procter hoc! Is such a gullible approach to causation (or in this case prediction) a requirement of believer status or simply something you are in the process of perfecting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SorryImPsychic View Post
    Yeah - and I think in Moses story in Bible one of the plagues is that it rains "frogs"...probably really happened at some time.

    Maybe Australia Government could claim the Diamond! It's in our airspace so to speak and we need the money.....
    If that amount of diamond became available on Earth it would be almost worthless.

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