Vemma Europe a misleading company

[Energy]

If it's so good, no doubt it will soon be available in the kinds of retail outlets that sell any number of similar products, from big name brands all the way down to premium output from small manufacturers.

I think most potential customers would wait for that to happen.

Sorry mate..You wont see it in tescoooos or anywhere like that..

[Energy]

Yes - the reason is that Multi Level Marketing (MLM) is a flawed concept in itself. So it doesn't matter which company decides to use it, it's always going to suffer from its inherent problems (most 'consultants' will lose money after signing up).

MLM is MLM. It doesn't matter how many times it's re-packed or dressed up, it's a fatally flawed concept.

Then New Vision ( Vemma's Mother Company ) have been doing something completely wrong for the last 15 YEARS!!!

[tolman]

Sorry mate..You wont see it in tescoooos or anywhere like that..

What, doesn't the wonderful company want to get its amazing product more widely sold?

Or is it just not special enough to actually sell where no-one's pushing it and there is competition?

[Energy]

What, doesn't the wonderful company want to get its amazing product more widely sold?

Or is it just not special enough to actually sell where no-one's pushing it and there is competition?

There is definatly an O missing in your name Sir..You obviously do not understand the concept of MLM... Never mind..

[Admin]

Then New Vision ( Vemma's Mother Company ) have been doing something completely wrong for the last 15 YEARS!!!

No they haven't. MLM works beautifully for those behind the scam scheme.

There is definatly an O missing in your name Sir..

If you're going to start with stupid and childish insults, I'll boot you off this forum. Got it?

You obviously do not understand the concept of MLM.

If you believe that it works for the 'consultants' who sign up, then it's you who doesn't understand the concept.

[Energy]

Please boot me off.. Its sad on here anyway. Proclaiming you know everything ( When you know very little ) Sat all day on your sofa's writing Drivel..Never mind, maybe you will get a life one day. And i see you are mainly the same people proclaiming to know everything about MLM..mmmmmm maybe another company are involved?..nevertheless i wish you all a happy, sorry interesting, albeit sad and boring life..:):) And remember, MLM is the future..My cheque tells me so..Bye.

[Admin]

Please boot me off..

My pleasure.

Why do thickos always come up with the "Your sad, get a life"* argument?



* Yes, it's always "your[sic] sad" and not "you're sad".

[tolman]

There is definatly an O missing in your name Sir..You obviously do not understand the concept of MLM... Never mind..

The concept being that it needs people eager to push products on their friends in order to sell them?

I do understand that for some people 'not available in the shops' might carry a certain cachet, but such people are probably in the minority, though I suppose there are enough around to keep TV shopping channels in business.

I also understand that MLM probably works best for products where the actual benefits are hard to quantify or directly compare with other products.

I guess MLM does provide opportunities for expensive [supposed] health drinks to be hyped without the risks that could ensue if excessive claims were made by a mainstream retailer.
If it's just a particular small-scale individual making claims, that's likely to attract less attention, and claims along the lines of 'I tried it and felt much better' are hard to disprove.

[Matt]

That was quick, from shill to forum suicide quicker than I can ask the price of a can.

OK I guess I'll just have to wait for the next vemma distributor to sign up here before I'll get my questions answered.

[tolman]

That was quick, from shill to forum suicide quicker than I can ask the price of a can.

OK I guess I'll just have to wait for the next vemma distributor to sign up here before I'll get my questions answered.

Looks like it's $60/month.
A bit expensive for a fruity vitamin supplement.

[Matt]

Looks like it's $60/month.
A bit expensive for a fruity vitamin supplement.

I only want a sample. How many cans does $60 a month get you?

[tolman]

Looking at their site, they link to some medical studies, but it seems like in one of them there is an RCT, but where for one of the important blood markers they're claiming to have an effect on, there's a serious initial difference (average 1.5 units vs average 2 units) between the two random groups of 30 people each.

How likely is that to happen by chance?

[Matt]

Ooh the website has changed. There's a select country option on the buy link.

If I choose UK I get the "sign up to be put in touch with a distributor" page I saw before.
If I choose USA I can buy direct, but only a 24 pack, either 8oz cans or 3oz "shots" $65 a pack.

So that's $2.71 per can (wholsesale price) That's £1.87 according to http://www.xe.com/ucc

A steep price for a can of Energy Drink. Same size can of Red Bull will set you back £1.15 in Tesco or £1.35 at ASDA or Sainsbury's. That's a single can price of top branded product. Not bothered about branding, happy to pay wholesale? Well you can get 6 of the same size cans of Tesco Kick for £1.52.

So do I want to pay $65 for my 24 Cans of Verve or £6.08 for Kick?

Tricky one.

[PaulW99]

Please boot me off.. Its sad on here anyway. Proclaiming you know everything ( When you know very little ) Sat all day on your sofa's writing Drivel..Never mind, maybe you will get a life one day. And i see you are mainly the same people proclaiming to know everything about MLM..mmmmmm maybe another company are involved?..nevertheless i wish you all a happy, sorry interesting, albeit sad and boring life..:):) And remember, MLM is the future..My cheque tells me so..Bye.

Intriguing, I wonder which company he/she/it means? Surely not a competing MLM, that wouldn't make sense. Then again, for someone who writes like that, I can't really expect sense.

Another undereducated individual being taken advantage of, so sad.

[tolman]

What is it with people like that joining their writing together with dots, as if it signifies that the next thing they say is somehow important or worth waiting for, when generally pretty much the opposite seems to be the case?

Half the time there's not even any obvious connection with the previous 'sentence'.

"I'm off to the shops in a minute...saw a badger yesterday...wonder if England will win Eurovision"