By the way, do everyone here think ALL MLMs are scam?Originally Posted by PaulW99
Let's see that scanned commission statement. I'm not holding my breath.
Please give me some more details about your particular MLM scam. How much money have you put into it, and how much have you gotten out? Please be ready to back up these claims with proof. Please don't say it's private because it's not - you can be as anonymous as you want on this forum. Just black out any personal details.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Posting commission statement online is against company policy and I know what you are going to say next. Nevermind, I am happy to show you when we meet one day. Are you near Birmingham?
As I gather this is a 100% anti-MLM forum. So I am off to somewhere with more positive minds:) take care Paul and thanks for your concern again.
Is this what I was going to say next? :
"If I was running an MLM I wouldn't want people revealing how little they earn either!"
If you black out the personal stuff then how would they know it was you? Oh, I get it, you don't have any commission statements because you don't have any commissions. Maybe that's what I was going to say.
Good luck, kstai. Please come back when you've turned your back on MLMs for good, maybe you can help the next MLM victim who reads here. I just hope you're one of the MLMers who suffers in silence and not one that goes around bugging people to buy their crap all the time.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You can't make this stuff up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB1ysd3c4Do
A Vemma video touting it as "The #1 way to make money from home"
Within 20 seconds there is even a depiction of a pyramid of people!
SCAM - SCAM - SCAM - SCAM
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Well with Amazon and Texco you at least get to see the prices before you sign up. I can compare prices of similar products without handing over my details. With vemma you don't even get a price after you sign up, you have to wait for your nearest rep to get in touch with you. Compare that with the ease with which I can buy merchandising material (even as a non-member) and you can see why it appears to many of us that their emphasis is on selling distributorships rather then end product. Oh I get that the reason for this is that they want to go through their channels to sell product but that rather underlines my point.Simple answer to your question Matt..
If you buy something from Amazon, Tesco online etc etc.. they will ask you to sign up first before you can buy. In Vemma, it doesn't cost any money to be a member or preferred customer. So you don't get direct benefit from recruiting members, you can get commission when someone buy the drink. It is different from a Pyramid scheme where you pay money to join and part of that goes to the recruiters. It is not the case with Vemma.
The reason you don't get the price is because online order is only for members and preferred customers only and the price is wholesale price. People who only want to buy a few to try have to buy from a members at retail price. If you want, I can send you a few. I take paypal.
Hey though, you're here now and you've offered to sell me a can. Yet still you don't seem to have told me the price or where to go paypal in hand.
C'mon there's apparently a no quibble money back guarantee so what have I got to lose huh? Sell me a can.
Sorry Matt, I think I scared him/her off.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I suppose there's nothing quite like aiming high, is there?
On the other hand, a lot of smaller companies I buy things from don't require that people register. They just require payment, and an address to send things to.
Some have customer accounts, to make things easier for repeat customers, though in the case of a couple of companies I use regularly, such accounts are optional.
Some larger companies don't sell direct, but all the ones making products I'd ever be likely to buy who don't sell direct also don't require me to register to find out where I can buy from, they just have a list of retailers.
Given that you selected yourself to come here and support the company, I'm not sure what that would be expected to prove.
You may well know how genuine you are, but how is anyone else expected to know, if whether you are on the level or you (and the company) are not, you're likely to be saying the same things and showing similar evidence?
Re: Vemma Europe a misleading company
Apparently I have to come back to you for showing me this video link
I was involved in a few MLM's back in my naive unemployed youth and without a doubt this does indeed have all the hallmarks of (at best) an MLM (which is just a legal pyramid scheme).
Some of the wonderful comments in that video
"It's a great way to get girls" ... Really?
and my favourite comment from the man at the top "I now earn more in a month than I did in a year as a bank manager"
Actually that's probably the truth, he does but any of the losers that sign up to this sadly wont.
It's always the same sales pitch, earn shed loads of cash for basically doing nothing but sadly real life isnt like that.
I dont think its a scam..And its really Tasty..
kstai..They are Dream Stealers!!!!
If it's so good, no doubt it will soon be available in the kinds of retail outlets that sell any number of similar products, from big name brands all the way down to premium output from small manufacturers.I dont think its a scam..And its really Tasty..
I think most potential customers would wait for that to happen.
Yes - the reason is that Multi Level Marketing (MLM) is a flawed concept in itself. So it doesn't matter which company decides to use it, it's always going to suffer from its inherent problems (most 'consultants' will lose money after signing up).
MLM is MLM. It doesn't matter how many times it's re-packed or dressed up, it's a fatally flawed concept.
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Dream being the operative word.
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