HAARP & The South Polar Telescope

[axiomgate]

Hi Skeptics,

I have something I could do with your help with...
(My Video:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixzk3oT1Dlk)

Two things really...

1st HAARP:- http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

Now this research Lab is looking at the Electro Magnetically charged area of our atmostphere by blasting it with 3.6 million Watts... Isn't that like testing how pure water is by pissing in it ?

The 2nd is the South Polar Telescope:- http://pole.uchicago.edu/

Now this Scope has been placed from FEB 2007... So running now for over 1 year... And not one photo of Space or a star...?

Why do you think they choose such a remote hard to get to location, and what do you feel they are using this to see ?

Tax payers money is being spent and the public facing page has nothing to show upon it !!... (The site has gone under some changes, they used to have a gallary link button that linked to nothing)...

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Now I am kind of a Conspiracy theorist of sorts (Axiomist Seeker of Alternative Truth)...

My Video:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixzk3oT1Dlk

Here's my ideas:-

HAARP
I think HAARP is keeping the Magnetic field charged to help prevent a Pole shift... Or it's being used to project Hollograms or reprogram Nano technology within Chem trails.

South Polar TeleScope
I think is tracking a large Earth bound rouge planet or commet.

Hence why NASA is planning to land on a approaching comment:- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1933...tml?source=rss
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Like I said... I could do with some minds like your own to give a different view... Cheers in advance !!

[Mulder]

... I think is tracking a large Earth bound rouge planet or commet...

What's the significance of the planet being red?

[axiomgate]

Rogue... Sorry... But you know what I ment.

[Mulder]

Now this research Lab is looking at the Electro Magnetically charged area of our atmostphere by blasting it with 3.6 million Watts...
Isn't that like testing how pure water is by pissing in it ?

Try telling a homeopath that - only kidding ...

Why do you think they choose such a remote hard to get to location, and what do you feel they are using this to see ?

Instead of answering these questions, I'm going to suggest you try it for yourself. The whole world wide web is at your disposal. First of all, how much physics do you know? If it isn't much them I'm afraid it will be a hard but not impossible task.

Here's a hint - pretend that these are not sinister technological developments but genuine scientific endeavours. Then ask the questions again. You may find out information you would never have looked for before.

[axiomgate]

I think I will wait until someone on here can give some sort of an answer.

[Mulder]

You're missing the point completely! Let me try again ...

If you look for conspiracies, that's what you'll find. You'll end up visiting all the same old websites peddling the same stuff. Your attitude affects the sort of words you put in search engines.

For instance, do you think your web search would ever come up with this link?

http://space.newscientist.com/articl...ine-news_rss20

[axiomgate]

See now that was a pretty good link... But the Telescope you have just given is in Antarctica...

The South Pole Telescope is the one of interest to us.

Eros / Nibiru / Planet X will be seen in 2009 by the eye in most southern areas of the Globe... We feel if we could see the images from the South pole we could see if Eros is just a Metorite/Astoroide as reported or if it is a larger body that conspiracy theorists are stating is coming our way.

These are the images we have found of Eros from Shoemaker:- http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary...near_eros.html

There are a fair few telescopes in space all pointing the same direction...

See this video:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VR3TkRrrhc

You may be correct, we could be looking at this the wrong way and our searches could be slanted... We need people like you on our forum to keep our ideas grounded and to have a healthy debate...

I mean you may find talking to me slightly annoying, but the debate is better than debating with someone like minded... Don't you think ?

[Mulder]

If you really want the 'hard stuff', here it is http://pole.uchicago.edu/spt/depot/pdf/2004-11-04.pdf Happy reading!

This is a paper describing what telescope is for and why it is sited in Antarctica(!!!!!).

I'm ignoring 'Planet X' because we've discussed it before and decided there was no evidence for its existence. Of course, if you have some real evidence then feel free to post it. We're very open-minded ...

[axiomgate]

ARRRRrrrggghhh My head... Now I will start researching some of what is mentioned within that Article...

Sunyaev-Zel'dovich effect ?

Equation of state of the dark energy ?

redshift ?

I will research the above... Make sense of them... And then I will be back for more !!

During that time... Any idea on HAARP would be good... I mean I know what HAARP is supposed to be doing... it's the Method I am questioning ?

I mean they are looking at the natural changes to an area they are effecting directly unaturally ?...

[bobdezon]

Now do people see the harm the X-Files did?

[Mulder]

I mean they are looking at the natural changes to an area they are effecting directly unaturally ?...

In science, experiments often use unnatural situations to deduce how things work. With a complex system like the ionosphere there are many variables so it's difficult to see which one is causing what effect. Introducing a known variable is like adding a distinctive signature that flows through the system.

You know science is actually fun. Maybe you should try it instead of those indescribably dull conspiracy theories.

[Mulder]

Now do people see the harm the X-Files did?

Hey, don't diss the X-Files or I'll set Scully on you ...

[axiomgate]

Cheers guys... we have found this of interest...


Sunyaev-Zel'dovich effect ?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunyaev-Zel'dovich_effect) - OK... Well admittedly that didn't make much sense...

Equation of state of the dark energy ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy - Now this is brilliant stuff... You have to read this... !!! (If you haven't all ready heard of it).
If the South Polar Telescope is made for looking into this then it could be the break through in providing energy to power crafts in space.

One bit we found of great interest is this:-

Measurements of cosmic microwave background (CMB) anisotropies, most recently by the WMAP satellite, indicate that the universe is very close to flat. For the shape of the universe to be flat, the mass/energy density of the universe must be equal to a certain critical density. The total amount of matter in the universe (including baryons and dark matter), as measured by the CMB, accounts for only about 30% of the critical density. This implies the existence of an additional form of energy to account for the remaining 70%

The Universe is close to being Flat...?

It just goes to show how little we actually know.

redshift ?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift) - Loads of info to explain that there is less interference in the South Pole.

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HAARP however kind of goes againt Global Warming prevention... don't you think ?

[Mulder]

There you are, I told you it was interesting ...

[DrS]

... But the Telescope you have just given is in Antarctica...

The South Pole Telescope is the one of interest to us.