Vemma vicitm

[Croydon Bob]

Ah.. i see. WHen is the next meeting in Birmingham?

Try googling "skeptics" and "birmingham"?

Vemma = scam.

[kstai]

Better still: stay away from MLM all together as they're all basically scams.

By the way, do everyone here think ALL MLMs are scam?

[PaulW99]

kstai, you're the victim and I feel sorry for you.

I've seen it all before. Family, friends, neighbours, full of bravado about their MLM which is so different from all other MLMs. It always, without exception, comes crashing down. One neighbour would mention Herbalife every time I saw him, now I am forbidden to mention the word.

Wake up.

[kstai]

Try googling "skeptics" and "birmingham"?

Vemma = scam.

thanks. Will google it.

[PaulW99]

By the way, do everyone here think ALL MLMs are scam?

I don't have to think about it any more. I KNOW all MLMs are scams. That simple and well-known fact has even become a marketing angle for MLMs! Along the lines of "Okay, you've been burned by MLMs, but this is different, it's so different from other MLMs that it's not really an MLM..."

I assume you're new to the game. Don't worry, you'll find out soon enough!

[kstai]

kstai, you're the victim and I feel sorry for you.

I've seen it all before. Family, friends, neighbours, full of bravado about their MLM which is so different from all other MLMs. It always, without exception, comes crashing down. One neighbour would mention Herbalife every time I saw him, now I am forbidden to mention the word.

Wake up.

Thanks Paul. If there is the general view about all MLMs, then I am probably in the wrong forum. Take care. I am off to a forum with more open minded people and positive mindset.

[kstai]

I don't have to think about it any more. I KNOW all MLMs are scams. That simple and well-known fact has even become a marketing angle for MLMs! Along the lines of "Okay, you've been burned by MLMs, but this is different, it's so different from other MLMs that it's not really an MLM..."

I assume you're new to the game. Don't worry, you'll find out soon enough!

and by the way, before I go, I am not new to MLM.

[PaulW99]

Thanks Paul. If there is the general view about all MLMs, then I am probably in the wrong forum. Take care. I am off to a forum with more open minded people and positive mindset.

Oh, were you looking for the UK Gullibles website?

I can't speak for everyone here, please wait around and see what others think. Maybe they're more "open minded" than me.

[PaulW99]

and by the way, before I go, I am not new to MLM.

Really? How long have you been at it? Which ones have you tried in the past? Why didn't you stick with them?

[Drop Bear]

Just Googled 'Vemma Australia'.

First thing I saw was an ad which said:

"Possibly The Most Powerful Liquid Antioxidant" The use of a weasel word immediately removed any incentive I might have had to buy the product.

A skeptic,I demand evidence. The company may fall foul of our "Therapeutic Goods Administration'.The ad implies a therapeutic benefit from the product. By law,such a claim must be supported by evidence,or can be banned,.

The emphasis of the site seems to be similar to Amway,with a tiered company structure with several levels of large profit taking.That suggests an excessive price to the customer. I bought Amway a few times about 30 years ago. I found it to be of reasonable quality but grossly overpriced.


With Vemma I would like to see:

The differential between the cost of production and price to the customer.


List of contents especially sugar. (I'm diabetic) Fortunately such information is required by law in this country.

I would need to see the results of clinical trials,comparing this wonder antioxidant with say green tea, because the company is implying a therapeutic benefit.

YES,I do take supplements ,two, with the recommendation and support of my GP. I might consider taking this product on that basis, IF the implied claims were supported by evidence. -and depending on the price compared with similar products.


The sale of vitamin supplements is a billion dollar industry here. For most people,such supplements provide the recipient with expensive urine. I never buy or even ingest such products on the basis of its advertising alone.

Do I believe kstai is making big money? I have no reason to doubt. However the claim /implication "If I can anyone can" is one of those mindless cliches which is demonstrably false.

Bases on his posts, my perception is that kstai is really gullible and stupid or really shallow and dishonest---or perhaps bit of all four..

The credibility for him personally and the product is zero with me. I've reached the end of my interest on this topic.I have nothing further to say.

[Ryoden]

Really? How long have you been at it? Which ones have you tried in the past? Why didn't you stick with them?

Yeah I would like to hear as well, be interesting to see if anyone else fell into the same traps I did.

I tried Amway first, suckered in by a friend but I was scared off by the first meeting of weird evangalistic type people who were up on stage shouting about how great they were and how they had got their emeral pin or whatnot. I think the only product I sold was some washing up liquid to my mother but as someone else has mentioned the products seem to work but are vastly overpriced for what they are.

Next I had a go at a wine one (forget the name), actually that wasnt bad, I didn't make any money but I did get some quite nice wine

and finally was a CD one (again the name escapes me) but I was in my final death throes with regards to MLM by then and only went into it to support my sad buddy really (if only I had known then what i know now, since he was a homeopathic practitioner, which would have rung alarm bells).

I was totalling up the money I have spent on scams during my life and thankfully it wasn't to bad, £60 on Amway, I dont count the wine ones as i actually enjoyed the wine and the CD one I never actually joined, just went to the meeting. Oh and more recently (before I knew they were somewhat lacking in evidence based medicine) £340 on a McTimmony chiropracter *face palm*