see do i watch it knowing that i will spend the entire program picking holes in the obvious lies it will contain. or watch this weeks it's ok to point you cant catch the condition that they have documentary on channel five.
few links
chan 4 site
http://www.channel4.com/culture/micr...homepage_flash
tudor parfitt (i wont call him a professor as its insulting to real ones) bio sort of
http://www.soas.ac.uk/staff/staff31594.php
It's almost finished. Just one word - complete bollocks. Or two then
For a man who quotes the bible as his source for dating events at every opportunity, he was rather quick to decide that Exodus was not a valid source for describing the ark.
Just a series of completely tenuous links, I'm quite staggered that this has been put in a documentary slot.
thought it might be, cant believe such things are being made there have been a few of late. Turin shroud one on BBC 2 as an example
So how did it end?
Some mysterious building in Ethiopia that no uninitiated are allowed to enter?
Apparently it's being looked into by top men, top men...Originally Posted by ZERO
I would be careful about discarding the Bible completely as a historical source. The Bible can and is used as valid source material by historians. The chronicles of Jewish rulers and events can be tied in with other records of contemporary civilisations (Egyptians, Babylonians etc.). Quite often the Bible is the only source for dating events. How else would you have this TV bloke date the events exactly?It's almost finished. Just one word - complete bollocks. Or two then
For a man who quotes the bible as his source for dating events at every opportunity, he was rather quick to decide that Exodus was not a valid source for describing the ark.
Just a series of completely tenuous links, I'm quite staggered that this has been put in a documentary slot.
The books of the Bible were written by numerous authors and at different times, so it is perfectly valid historical practice to favour one description of the ark over another as long as the reasons for doing so are convincingly explained.
The Bible is a book that contains much that doesn't fit in with our modern, liberal, atheist worldview. This does not mean we should discard its contents entirely as a pile of irrelevant bollocks. The ancient world is not an easy place to understand and dismissing an authentic ancient text just because it doen't fit in with our modern sensibilities seems, to me, like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Now where's my copy of the Newspeak dictionary, I must see what it says under "Ark of the Covenant".
Perhaps we , as sceptics, should stage a pre-emptive strike against the forces of darkness. To wit; a raid on the Church of Mary in Axum, Ethiopa, to recover whatever is allegedly behind that red curtain and put it away in a safe place. If Bush and the neo-cons get their hands on that Ark, then God only knows what powers of darkness might be unleashed
My guess is that Mussolini's forces probably purloined the Ark from the Ethiops following their 1938 conquest of Abysinnia and handed it over to the Papacy under a secret protocol of the Lateran Treaty of 1929. And the Ark is now used as a laundry basket in Pope Benedict's Vatican appartment.
The bare bones of a novel here I think...
I'm not dismissing the bible as such, I am aware of the historical contexts of the Old Testament, but you had to see the programme to see the way he sometimes relied on things being mentioned in the bible and then decided that something not being mentioned was again proof of something else.
It was his general jumping from one leap of faith to another which was complete bollocks. Much like the Turin Shroud programme which failed to prove even the most basic of aspects, he failed to convince anyone that the the ark was taken anywhere, never mind not destroyed or burnt, so the rest of the programme that followed was just conjecture.
by who, elvis?I would be careful about discarding the Bible completely as a historical source. The Bible can and is used as valid source material by historians.
how can essaies and fairy tales, writen by unknown persons, from different countrys, on average 100 to 200 years after the event, be used to date anything?
i would love to live long enough to see the day, The Potterites, (all hail to the harry, saaaay iiiit) say that j.k.rollings can be used to see how things were in the 20th/21st century. LOL
Are you trying to claim that nothing in Harry Potter has any basis in reality? No-one is claiming that the Bible should be taken as absolute historic truth (no-one sane at least), but to claim that everything in it is 100% wrong and made up is just as stupid.
Wow, even the Minimalists of the Copenhagen school don't argue that the bible should be ignored http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_minimalism . Where archeology can be used to re-date events more accurately then, of course, this should be done. The picture provided by archeology is incomplete and in the absence of any archeological evidence how else do you piece together ancient history and date events other than by looking at the available writings?
Your Harry Potter analogy is absurd by the way.
In many thousands of years time Harry Potter books will inform historians with a great deal of essentially accurate information about 21st century life. London is indeed our capital city, there is a train station called Knigs Cross.
Whatever the truth of the fantastic parts of the Old Testament the settings where they took place must have been beliveable to the ancient Hebrews. This tells us as much about their life as ancient Greek dramas tells us about the Greeks.
yes, but i think you are talking about the Torha,(excuse the spelling, as usual) both the old and new testiment can only be jugded on concret facts, like places and their names,which were known to any literate person of the time, the people, actians and events are seriously laking in any verifiable facts.
the fact that the bible has been edited time and time again over the years for the express purpose of misleading the gullable, is not a secret.
an analogy comes to minde(what little i've got left) with Windows.
there are updates fixing faults almost every week, and as time goes on the faults are no longer with the original OS but the contemprery IT trends and to keep up with the sofistication of the haking community.
if the transvestites in rome thought that by adding harry potter to the bible would put more bums on seats they would do it in a heart beat.
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