..and snail mucus. From Penn and Teller.
Interestingly, my brother was visiting last night, and he was wearing a £20 magnetic bracelet he is now selling in his sports shop. I told him last time I seen him that it was a complete fraud but I think he probably believes it a bit. He thinks the sports companies must know more than his cynical and skeptical brother.
Anyway, it was an incredibly flimsy piece of shit, just a little lightweight plastic bracelet. I'd be surprised if the magnets in it could even lift some iron filings
He disclosed the next thing he is looking at is some sort of postive ion stuff that is big in Japan. He tried to justify that it works, because he named another large sports company that is using the 'technology'. It's all about stopping the free radicals from entering your body apparantly.
So skin isn't good enough for him nowdays?Originally Posted by FarSideOfTheMoon
Funnily enough I asked him that
Can't free radicals get up your nose? I came across this, but my eyes started to go funny after a few paragraphs. No, really.
http://www.dsrf.co.uk/Reading_materi.../freerads2.htm
There are organisms going up your nose as you read this.
On a more seroius note, no. Radical are extremely reactive and won't last long enough to get up your nose. The vast majority of radicals will be produced inside your body, and they won't exist for long before they react with something.
From the science point of view, that's not actually too bad. The only problem is the scaremongering at the start. Yes, there are thousands of free radicals in your body at any moment, but it really doesn't matter that much. We have evolved to live with it, and as long as you eat a sensible diet, free radicals are something you never have to worry about. The claim that most diseases are caused by free radicals is simply not true.I came across this, but my eyes started to go funny after a few paragraphs. No, really.
http://www.dsrf.co.uk/Reading_materi.../freerads2.htm
Is there any particular reason why this issue is discussed by the dsrf ?
This sentence is hard for me to follow. What makes a sensible diet in your mind and are you suggesting eating sensibly to avoid free radicals? If so, you are in fact worrying about them and trying to decrease your intake and I assume prevent ...something? Some disease maybe?
Here is a wikipedia entry for Free Radical Theory in regards to biological damage that I found half interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-radical_theory
I just tend to look at who's pushing the theory, how hard and what do the proper scientists say.This sentence is hard for me to follow. What makes a sensible diet in your mind and are you suggesting eating sensibly to avoid free radicals? If so, you are in fact worrying about them and trying to decrease your intake and I assume prevent ...something? Some disease maybe?
Here is a wikipedia entry for Free Radical Theory in regards to biological damage that I found half interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-radical_theory
Lab work - mostly inconclusive, some interesting data points.
Who's pushing - cosmetics manufacturers, fad dieticians and supplement manufacturers
How hard - settled down a bit but couldn't get away from it a couple of years ago.
Yes, and that is wise of you to do so Mongrel. The wiki entry points out some of those inconclusive things.
Last edited by LeQue; 19th December 2007 at 11:30 AM.
No, I'm not worrying about them. Neither am I worrying about vitamin deficiencies, cholestrol, fat, or anything else. If you eat a sensible diet, none of these things are a problem. Same for free radicals. If you stuff yourself with junk food and never touch fruit or vegetables, then no doubt free radicals will cause damage, at the same time as your arteries get clogged up and you get rickets and scurvy. The claim that most diseases are caused by free radicals is just as silly as claiming that most diseases are caused by vitamin C deficiency.
FarSide of the Moon - that was a very interesting point you made about your brother thinking the sports companies knew more than you. I believe this used to be called the Appeal to Mere Authority. Someone is famous, rich, successful, so they must be pretty damn smart, and wouldn't be taken in by pseudo-science. I once had an argument about the old youth-restoring treatments, probably "monkey glands". The other guy, in effect, said that the famous people who tried them wouldn't do so if the treatments were nonsense. He didn't mention him (probably hadn't heard of him!), but I believe Somerset Maugham tried these treatments, which didn't stop him from becoming senile. The point is, if someone made himself a millionaire manufacturing cotton reels, then he knows about business deals and money, and about cotton reels. He doesn't necessarily know a damn thing about science. Or, as Randi points out, a scientist knows about science, but probably not about conjuring tricks.
But you are taking it into consideration, along with cholesterol and fat, if you eat a certain diet to avoid worrying about them. This is what makes up your "sensible" diet I assume.
Ok. Your earlier post seemed to advise action to avoid free radicals and dismiss them at the same time, but I understand you now.
Yes I agree.
Nope. The fact that the food I like also happens to be what is recommended as a sensible diet is just a happy coincidence. Life's too short to bother worrying about anything.
Well, as someone who tends to be a worrier, I need to take your words to heart.
Happy Christmas, by the way.
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