General Election Petition

[The_Corinthian]

Hi all,

If anyone here is appalled by Gordon Brown's hyprocacy over inciting a general election, changing his mind, then claiming that the British public don't want an election. Sign the petition to have one. :)

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Election-year/

[bindeweede]

Hi all,

If anyone here is appalled by Gordon Brown's hyprocacy over inciting a general election, changing his mind, then claiming that the British public don't want an election. Sign the petition to have one. :)

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Election-year/

For what it's worth, I don't think he "incited" a general election; I don't think he changed his mind, but if he did, what's so wrong? He is a politician, and will act to his political advantage, as any politician will. There is no need for a general election - he has a substantial majority, with a mandate of over 2 years. John Major did the same when he took over from Thatcher.

[The_Corinthian]

For what it's worth, I don't think he "incited" a general election; I don't think he changed his mind, but if he did, what's so wrong? He is a politician, and will act to his political advantage, as any politician will. There is no need for a general election - he has a substantial majority, with a mandate of over 2 years. John Major did the same when he took over from Thatcher.

According to the polls he doesn't have any where near a substantial majority, and to top it all off his chancellor has just ripped off a load of Tory policies. He would have carried on pushing for a snap election if the Tories hadn't had such a good few weeks. I can't blame him, up until recently, Cameron has come across as weak and ineffectual. Shows how quickly things can change in politics.

[bindeweede]

According to the polls he doesn't have any where near a substantial majority, and to top it all off his chancellor has just ripped off a load of Tory policies. He would have carried on pushing for a snap election if the Tories hadn't had such a good few weeks. I can't blame him, up until recently, Cameron has come across as weak and ineffectual. Shows how quickly things can change in politics.

He doesn't need polls regarding a majority - it is around 68 - more than enough for effective government.

[The_Corinthian]

He doesn't need polls regarding a majority - it is around 68 - more than enough for effective government.

Polls do and have changed. Some now even put the Tories in front, hence the reason many people want an election.

[n8rae]

Polls do and have changed. Some now even put the Tories in front, hence the reason many people want an election.

I think he meant "Gordan Brown has a majority in the house of commons, where it counts."

nathan

[Matt]

and to top it all off his chancellor has just ripped off a load of Tory policies.

I don't get why this is a bad thing. The tories say the cap on inherritance tax is too low. The Labour Party agree and raise the cap on inherritance tax. Why the howls of anger? Didn't Cameron and Brown claim it was time for a new age of concensus politics?

[brodski]

According to the polls he doesn't have any where near a substantial majority, and to top it all off his chancellor has just ripped off a load of Tory policies.

Is this alluding to the common belief that Brown pretended that there would be an election in order to see what the Tories polices were, and the called it off and announced their polices as his own days later?

It’s a nice little conspiracy theory but it just doesn’t work. The Comprehensive Spending Review/ Pre Budget report has been planned for well over 6th months departmentally settlements where basically known before the summer recess- something which can’t happen without fairly robust tax plans. There is simply no way that Brown could have stolen the Tories non-dom and IHT plans and announced them in the BPR, unless he used a time machine to get the Civil Service analysis necessary for the announcement.
Of course the reality is that these ideas have been on Browns agenda for years, but that doesn’t make snappy headlines.

And on eth election issue in general, how do you feel about the Tory parties conference event which condemned an early election as nigh on treasonous? When eth polls began to turn slightly, they soon changed their tune, no?

[Cuddles]

I don't think he changed his mind, but if he did, what's so wrong?

This is one thing I just don't get. Politicians always get criticised for doing things wrong, but as soon as they change their minds and do something else, they get even more criticism. Changing your opinion based on new information and admitting mistakes are just about the best things anyone can ever do. Considering that politicians are supposed to represent us, they should change their minds even more than other people because they are supposed to listen to what the people want, which might not agree with what they've said before. I agree that he probably hasn't changed his mind this time but if he had, that would be a good thing.

[MRT]

Politicians are rightly criticised because they PRETEND to have principles, vision and the answers to difficult problems. In fact, they have none of these (as history shows) and generally decide things only following events. The terrorist attacks, for instance, led to a whole raft of almost completely pointless and counter-productive legislation. If they were to admit that they knew little more than anyone else (and a lot less than some people), they might gain more respect, maybe ...

[Mark Lawless]

Hi all,

If anyone here is appalled by Gordon Brown's hyprocacy over inciting a general election, changing his mind, then claiming that the British public don't want an election. Sign the petition to have one. :)

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Election-year/

I think it may now ne time for another one of these petitions! If anyone is of the opinion that a General Election should be hald as soon as possible, then why not sign my petition!

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Decision2008/


Thank you all!