OK that's a testable prediction.Originally Posted by bob-1
Like I've said before I have a half a years worth of lottery results in spreadsheet form. I can calculate from the prize fund how many tickets were bought and from that how many winners in each catergory we should expect.
These figures are for all draws between 30/08/2008 and 25/02/2009
Expected total number of Match 6 winners: 96.40
Actual Number of Match 6 winners: 101
Expected number of Match 5 plus the bonus ball winners: 578.45
Actual Number: 553
Expected Number of Match 5 winners: 24.295
Actual number: 24,053
Expected number of Match 4 Winners: 1,305,087
Actual number 1,278,979
Expected Number of Match 3 Winners: 23,651,850
Actual number 23,438,306
So if there's any attempt tot influence the number of winner in each catergory, it appears to have not had very much effect.
Nope you've given an almost clear direction to where to find the number. You were clear about the show if not the draw. My clue was that the draw had already been done but he dream number is not drawn daily.
I have Iplayer and a print screen clearly shows that in the case of the Dream Number Draw - you're telling the truth.
Question you now have to ask yourself is whether it's allways the Dream Number draw where you see this. You see for the dream number they do have 7 sets of ten balls. The number in the first position will allways be drawn from the first set of balls, the number in the second position will allways be drawn from the second set of balls etc. Thus it's much easier to understand how these smaller numbers might allways be in the "correct position" and would not necessarily indicate any draw fixing.
Last edited by Matt; 28th August 2009 at 11:09 AM.
Now I know what I'm looking for I've found it again on the last Saturday's Dream Number.
The number in the first position, drawn of course from set of balls 1 has unsuprisingly a tiny 1 on it. (Bottom Left)
Why not all of them? Well the balls have the draw number printed on them multiple times so it can be seen from any angle. This smaller number which appears to indicate the set of balls seems to be only on each ball once. As such it's ony visble when the ball has a suitable orientation.
In my second screenshot from Saturday's draw we have the ball in poition four. I think it's just caught the edge of the "set number" in the top right.
I suspect that these number are here to prevent a form of cheating.
Let's say you'd bought the ticket with the dream number 734590. And had the privilege of loading the balls into the machine. You could greatly increase your chance of winning a prize if you swapped the 3 from set 1 with the 7 from set 2. Printing the set number on the balls is a quick way for such cheating to be detected.
Thank you Matt ... I can now erase my video timer setting and continue my unbroken record of never watching any programme which has anything to do with the lottery in it.
Great work Matt.
It's good to be able to solve one rather than just say "we don't know".
But your explanation doesn't contradict my theory that Bob-1 is mad.
Well with a name like that what would you expect
Actually Now I've looked back at the numbers we have got clear screen shots for I no longer think that this one in position 4 is showing a set number.
The draw numbers are arranged as if the vertical axes of the numbers formed the edges of an octahedron. The set number would then be under one of the vertices. If anything that screen shot clips the edge of another draw number.
Who is it that audits the lottery - isn't it some lovely people like PriceWaterhouse or something? They are always there when the set of balls is picked and they monitor the draw itself.
Now, I know these lovely auditors have been caught with their pants down a number of times when neglecting to study hard sums stringently enough, however are they really that incompetent that they can't check 49 balls correctly?
Or is it more likely THEY ARE ALSO IN ON IT.
Yes i was wrong about the game but right about the day of the draw, set of balls 3 fourth ball out small number 4 on it ,i have yet to see a ball appear in the wrong slot yet and have seen two on the same draw different numbers correct positions.
Yes well like I said that seems to be expected with the dream number draw.
What even when they said they used set of balls number 3.
First time i have ever seen the dream numbers anyway ,iam talking about the normal lotto.
OK perhaps I should have said Sub set.
The dream number is drawn from 70 balls.
The first number is drawn from ten balls from numbered 0 to 9 (which I've called Subset 1) I've theoriesed that each of these balls is marked with the small number 1. As such the drawn number will have a tiny 1 on it whatever the main draw number it also shows. The tiny 1 will not always be visible.
The second number is drawn from ten balls numbered from 0 to 9 (which I've called Subset 2) I've theoriesed that each of these balls is marked with the small number 2. As such the drawn number will have a tiny 2 on it whatever the main draw number it also shows. The tiny 2 will not always be visible.
The nth number is drawn from ten balls numbered from 0 to 9 (which I've called Subset n) I've theoriesed that each of these balls is marked with the small number n. As such the drawn number will have a tiny n on it whatever the main draw number it also shows. The tiny n will not always be visible.
The seventh number is drawn from ten balls numbered from 0 to 9 (which I've called Subset 7) I've theoriesed that each of these balls is marked with the small number 7. As such the drawn number will have a tiny 7 on it whatever the main draw number it also shows. The tiny 7 will not always be visible.
So the 70- balls may have formed set of balls number 3 but the ball in the 4th position was guarenteed to be from subset 4 and bear a number 4 mark to prove it.
So if you're mistaken about it being the main Lotto numbers that you've also seen bearing this mark, the mystery seems solved. If not then at least you know that we can see the number too on Iplayer if you report it within 7 days of it's appearance. If you spot it again, let us know and we'll see if we can confirm it. If not then I don't expect you to come back and admit you were wrong. People are funny like that. Jal1212 disappeared after reasonable answers were given to their questions. Davym disappeared after a plausible explanation was given for his mystery and a scan or photo of his ticket was asked for. Anne26 never thanked us for explaining why she was wrong about the match5 plus bonus ball probabilities.
However NelMac came back to admit he was wrong. I have to respect that. It shows an ability to learn.
What a real wind up merchant would do is come back with a new report after it had expired from Iplayer so that we couldn't check it. Don't bother proving yourself such a wanker by doing that.
So the lottery is being rigged to ensure fewer and higher jackpots? And this is to benefit Camelot who get higher ticket sales?
What about the National Lottery Commission? How come they haven't spotted this yet?
http://www.nationallotterycommission...P?ContentId=34
We do everything we can to protect the National Lottery and the people who play it. We make independent checks to ensure that the Lottery is running as it should be according to the Licences.
We have a Compliance Directorate based within the operator’s (Camelot) headquarters in Watford with quick and easy access to its systems and records. It performs checks on a broad range of the operator’s activities. It has a programme of regular work and also conducts a number of special investigations if required.
Our Licensing Directorate, based in our London office, is responsible for licensing games, vetting the operator and its suppliers, protecting players and protecting the National Lottery brand.
Our Performance team closely monitors National Lottery sales, and commissions independent research to support the development of the National Lottery and ensure its integrity.
But coincidentally, what you described can be seen by everyone else on the Dream Numbers, but not on the normal Lottery.
Time to admit you've made a fool of yourself?
The National Lottery Commission, I know that lot. I work as a security guard and cover holidays/illness and have spent considerable time at their offices @ 101 Wigmore Street.
Is it just me or is this post completely irrelevant and quite boring.
I wouldn't dream of suggesting that you were completely irrelevant and quite boring ...
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