Hello you skeptic lot
Thought i would put this on a fresh thread, so any misunderstandings from other threads can hopefully remain in those threads.
I want to share with you a very spooky thing that happened to a friend and myself. As you know i am a 'believer', that is i practice communication with the spirit world (but i am not a medium) and know (okay, for an easy life...'believe') the spirit world exists. I have seen ghosts but i know and agree with some of the scientific explanations for this phenomena and don't wish to elaborate on this here.
I would love to know of any serious explanations for what i am about to describe. That is, explanations without debatably humorous reference to my mental state, and definitely without reference to my chosen profession <IMG class=inlineimg title="
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My friend and i were driving along a country road when i had to stop for a 'comfort break'. i walked a good 50 metres away from the lay-by and stopped next to a row of small trees. as i looked up i saw 5 dead rabbits impaled on a tree. the branches of the tree were thin, with many sub-branches of twig-like proportions. these rabbits were impaled on sparate sub-branches, high enough to be well out of human reach but low enough so that they would have had to be slid along and down several sub-branches to get where they were. basically, i can not see how this could have happened - through human hands or through heavy wind, or through other animals.
My friend was as frightened as i was and we did a sharp exit, not talking for some time. i was a 'non-believer at the time, as was my friend. to this day i can not explain how it was that those dead rabbits had been positioned where they were.
Has anyone seen/heard of anything similar, or can anyone end my years of contemplation on this with a single paragraph?
Serious explanations only please
People did it. Gosh, that was terribly hard to explain.
Originally Posted by Cuddles
this is where you have to see it. it was completely impossible for people to do - not only were the rabbits far too high for even a pro basketball player to reach, they were also impaled so far down, and past several sub-branches, that it would have required sliding different parts of each rabbit down different branches and assembling them together again. sorry!
People with ladders did it.
So it is completely impossible for any human being to access part of a tree that is out of their reach from the ground? I suppose professional tree surgeons must all be 100 feet tall?
Or cutting the rabbit in half, wrapping it around the branch and sewing/sticking/tying it back together to look like it was impaled. Totally impossible.they were also impaled so far down, and past several sub-branches, that it would have required sliding different parts of each rabbit down different branches and assembling them together again.
This is a common thing for poachers to do.
They're high up enough so that passing animals can't get at them and difficult to remove, so others can't easily get at them without destroying the carcass.
Animals like Rabbits (and most game animals) need to be "hung" for several days in order for the meat to soften, otherwise they're too tough to eat.
This does sound like the most feasible option to me, but my friend and i noted that they weren't 'hung', and yes i have seen examples of this. They were impaled on branches of twig-like proportions, imagine a horizontal Y branch leading down to another branch. how can something be moved from one of the 'forks' of the Y down to another branch, and so on several times, without snapping these branches?
My thoughts are that it's likely to be a baiting technique for birds.
A farmer may want to get rid of crows etc. or perhaps a photographer or a researcher may want to see certain birds of prey.
I would think that placing bait in a tree is an ideal way of baiting birds, whether you want to shoot them with a gun or a camera, whilst ensuring that foxes etc. don't take the bait instead.
I don't know; but I'd be looking to discount an explanation like this one before turning to more spooky ones.
But that's skeptics for you!
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i'm not jumping to any conclusions whatsoever. I've seen some of the poachers' techniques - some are pretty grisly - 'twas just the whole mechanics of getting the reabbits to where they were.
I'll go with the poachers theory...for an easy life
Ah, the same old believer logic I have seen on so many other forums. The old "If I don't know who did it/how it was done it then it must have been Caspar" syndrome. Good to know some things don't change.
As an old buddy of mine used to put it:
1) I have seen something I can't explain
2) I believe in ghosts
3) This thing I have seen must be a ghost
Why the hell would Caspar want to kill bunnies and attach them to trees anyway?
er.....i never ever thought or said that it was a ghost.
There was a nearby derelict farmhouse which had been used by satanists - pentacles & suchlike everywhere.
My only thoughts were that they could have had something to do with this
It was poachers. Case closed, so no need to imply i'm thinking of caspar, is there?
Pentacles and suchlike could just as easily - and more likely - be remnants from a pagan gathering and they most definitely wouldn't have been responsible for anything connected to animal murder.
I understand that pentacles aren't unique to devil-worship. It was the inscribed '666' etc.... anyway....
Why in your original post did you state that "i can not see how this could have happened - through human hands or through heavy wind, or through other animal" if you thought it was the satanists all along. Clearly, satanists are humans.I understand that pentacles aren't unique to devil-worship. It was the inscribed '666' etc.... anyway....
Regarding the getting the bodies past the Y shaped branches:
If this would have required a stepladder to reproduce (discounting climbing the tree) then it's a fair guess that you didn't get to examine too closely.
Were I to want to reproduce this (and I spent too many years with the nickname "rabbit" to even eat rabbit pie, so it's unlikely that I would) I'd cut branches and sharpen the base. I might leave the extra offshoots to help the stake hang amongst the other branches.
Were my motivation simply to produce an inexplicable effect I might even graft the branch back onto the tree.
More likely is that the rabbits were hung on wire. Somehow it might be possible at a distance to mistake the wire for thin branches.
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