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    UK National Lottery : 29-Aug-2007

    We have set up a Google group called ************ of Lottery for you to comprehend the followings :

    Based upon the table/graph provided in the ************ of Lottery above, our choice “X” are : 7, 33, 39, 37, 22, 3, 20, 23, 25, 28, 27, 44, 21, 24, 36, 38, 1

    Based upon the table/graph provided in the ************ of Lottery above, suggestive dodging : 7, 33, 39, 37, 22, 3, 20, 49, 28, 27, 44, 48, 21, 36, 38, 1

    Since UK National Lottery house MUST manipulate the 29-Aug-2007 outcome to dodge our choice “X”, we expect the following :

    Zone 1-9 : 7, 3, 1 choose one digit
    Zone 10-19 : None
    Zone 20-29 : 22, 20, 28, 27, 21 choose two/three digits
    Zone 30-39 : 33, 39, 37, 36, 38 choose two/one digit(s)
    Zone 40-49 : 49, 44, 48 choose one digit


    We plot our choice “X” explicitly ahead of the 29-Aug-2007 draw. Our choice “X” consist of 17 digits. We know our choice “X” constitute 1/3 of the total 49 digits, therefore UK National Lottery house could only choose 2 digits from our choice “X”. This is a calculative manipulation. We also know UK National Lottery house has to make dodging based on our choice “X”, therefore our suggestive dodging digits are either coincide with or adjacent to our choice “X”.

    The position of each digit within our table/graph is utmost important in deciding the drawing outcome. If you follow our ************ long enough, you can see we are actually using our table/graph as a tool to intervene the drawing outcomes. UK National Lottery house has no other alternatives but to dodge any table, graph or comment that is used explicitly for intervention.

    The only purpose of our intervention is to show you all explicitly that lottery is NOT a game of chance but a game of MANIPULATION.

    If you like to be a pseudo lottery house for UK National Lottery, you could visit the Files of ************ of Lottery. We hope our articles can give you some hints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarSideOfTheMoon View Post

    Before you point out that we are lying, could you just wait and see the outcome WITHOUT buying ? We are not suggesting anyone to buy but to LOOK at how they dodge from our choice "X". You have to get our table/graph to see it for yourself on Wednesday.

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    Re: UK National Lottery : 29-Aug-2007

    I believe the standard reply is:

    "What part of 'random' don't you understand?"

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    I assume you have some algorithm that determines your tables.
    I also assume that from your claim that Camelot routinely manipulates the draw, that you can prove this? If so, then Camelot may find themselves in a very awkward position, legally, regarding the fairness of their draws.
    I'm sure that they would take a very dim view of claims that they manipulate the draw and may even back it up legally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukcasg View Post
    Before you point out that we are lying, could you just wait and see the outcome WITHOUT buying ? We are not suggesting anyone to buy but to LOOK at how they dodge from our choice "X". You have to get our table/graph to see it for yourself on Wednesday.
    Why share this information?

    I know the one thing that I would do if I ever found out a failsafe way to win the lottery is not to tell a single person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbloke View Post
    I assume you have some algorithm that determines your tables.
    I also assume that from your claim that Camelot routinely manipulates the draw, that you can prove this? If so, then Camelot may find themselves in a very awkward position, legally, regarding the fairness of their draws.
    I'm sure that they would take a very dim view of claims that they manipulate the draw and may even back it up legally.



    We are shocked, shocked and very shocked. We have set up a Google group called ************ of Lottery. We also make use of the Files provided by Google group as a database to accumulate our work. We have worked the whole thing for the past few weeks, if you do have time, go to our group and take a closer look at the date to see if we are lying.

    If you still think you can predict any lottery outcome mathematically, then you are not paying our Google group a visit. We name our group "************" is to show you all lottery is a game, nothing more than a game. You shouldn't deal with game with opponent mathematically as if your opponent is any mathematical rules. If you want to play lottery, play it as you play poker or chess. Do you think G. H. Hardy wrote an article "A Mathematician's Apology" for nothing ?

    We welcome you NOT to believe us. We just put our works in the Google group for you all to acquire, and it's FREE. We are neither encourage nor discourage anything, just that if you want to play lottery, play it as if you are playing poker or chess, because your opponent will dodge.

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    Re: UK National Lottery : 29-Aug-2007

    Quote Originally Posted by FarSideOfTheMoon View Post
    Why share this information?

    I know the one thing that I would do if I ever found out a failsafe way to win the lottery is not to tell a single person.


    The only reason we share this ************ idea with everyone NOT because we can win, but you shouldn't get addicted to a manipulative game, right ??

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    Re: UK National Lottery : 29-Aug-2007

    Do you have a hypothesis as to why you think the lottery is manipulated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukcasg View Post
    We are neither encourage nor discourage anything, just that if you want to play lottery, play it as if you are playing poker or chess, because your opponent will dodge.
    I repeat:
    "What part of 'random' don't you ******* understand"

    In any case, what benefit would a lottery company gain from 'dodging', since *their* take is pretty much fixed? They don't stand to gain anything, and, as pointed out above, they could get into all kinds of trouble.

    Given a finite number of past wins, any fool or shyster can come up with a scheme that matches past lottery wins, and many fools and shysters do.
    Some greater fools even buy into such schemes.

    Still, a 'dodging' scheme has a nice angle - you predict the numbers that a company will have to 'avoid', and if they seem to have avoided them, you can claim to be right. If they don't 'avoid' them, you can claim that the company was too scared to avoid them.

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    Nope. I haven't a clue.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ukcasg View Post
    Since UK National Lottery house MUST manipulate the 29-Aug-2007 outcome to dodge our choice “X”, we expect the following
    What makes you think the National Lottery gives a flying fig about your choice "X"? They've probably never even seen it or heard of your group; I certainly hadn't until I saw this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukcasg View Post
    We are shocked, shocked and very shocked. We have set up a Google group called ************ of Lottery. We also make use of the Files provided by Google group as a database to accumulate our work. We have worked the whole thing for the past few weeks, if you do have time, go to our group and take a closer look at the date to see if we are lying.
    Who are "we"? Why should UK Skeptics care about your group - and in any case, what does your "X" actually prove?

    Quote Originally Posted by ukcasg View Post
    If you still think you can predict any lottery outcome mathematically, then you are not paying our Google group a visit. We name our group "************" is to show you all lottery is a game, nothing more than a game. You shouldn't deal with game with opponent mathematically as if your opponent is any mathematical rules. If you want to play lottery, play it as you play poker or chess. Do you think G. H. Hardy wrote an article "A Mathematician's Apology" for nothing ?
    Yes you can - it's all probability. If you think otherwise, and you have proof, the Gambling Commission would like to hear from you, as it is clearly defrauding the public and could lose Camelot their license to operate the UK National Lottery.

    Quote Originally Posted by ukcasg View Post
    We welcome you NOT to believe us. We just put our works in the Google group for you all to acquire, and it's FREE. We are neither encourage nor discourage anything, just that if you want to play lottery, play it as if you are playing poker or chess, because your opponent will dodge.
    Again, if you have evidence that you believe Camelot is deliberately manipulating the Lottery, tell the Gambling Commission. They would be very glad to hear any evidence you may have.

    Otherwise, all you are doing is applying arbitrary rules to a random event and deriving meaning from them - you are actively accusing a company of cheating and that company may well take legal action against you to protect their good name and standing.

    This is a very actionable position you find yourself in, be very careful.

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    Not quite sure what you are up to with this, but you've certainly been spamming the internet with this nonsense.

    Maybe it's a viral campaign? Maybe you have some other far fetched ulterior motive? I don't know, but I'm sure you are intelligent enough not to believe this rubbish.

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    So, was anything proved by last night's draw?

    Did Camelot 'manipulate' the draw to avoid choice X?

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