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    I just hope that no-one takes such drivel seriously; therapy isn't offered to everyone,and some choose to opt out of what can be a painful and sometimes futile process,It saddens me to think that someone out there may make a decision about treatment after being influenced by such spurious claims.
    Bymble

    On p.9 of the leaflet I picked up yesterday, Permutt's book "The Crystal Healer" is reviewed by "Prediction" magazine.

    "This is an excellent all round guide for anyone interested in crystal healing. It gives you an easy to follow introduction to healing including preparation, meditation, crystal energy and making elixirs. There's a huge directory of 250 crystals detailing where each individual stone comes from, what physical and emotional/spiritual healing properties it has plus it's (sic) astrological and chakra associations. The directory is organised by colour and there is also a handy index at the back to look up specific stones.

    On top of that you get crystal remedies for 250 common ailments and afflictions from sea sickness and insomnia to back pain and asthma. Terrific."

    I imagine there will be some people who take it seriously.

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    bindeweede
    At the time that I was diagnosed I was very much 'into' such things as crystals(I still have a large collection gathering dust),but I didn't ever consider that there was any viable alternative to mainstream medicine,simply the option of 'take it or leave it' as regarding therapy.
    Perhaps a more apposite statement would be that I hope that no-one with HCV factors in the purported benefits of crystals when making a decision about therapy,although the odds are such that somebody probably will.

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    A lot of these remedies especially with crystals is not to replace medical treatment but to work along side it.

    I would happily see Julia and see what I can do to help. However if she felt no benifit I would not stop as another thing I make perfectly clear is I can't heal everyone. I have aroundan 85% success rate with people wither finding improvment or completely better (the reasons why you can draw your own conclusions). There can be 101 reasons why that 15% did not benefit just let not everyone gets the results they would like from medical science.

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    Re: "non-evasive psychic surgery"

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryMannion View Post
    A lot of these remedies especially with crystals is not to replace medical treatment but to work along side it.

    I would happily see Julia and see what I can do to help. However if she felt no benifit I would not stop as another thing I make perfectly clear is I can't heal everyone. I have aroundan 85% success rate with people wither finding improvment or completely better (the reasons why you can draw your own conclusions). There can be 101 reasons why that 15% did not benefit just let not everyone gets the results they would like from medical science.
    Can you explicitly define 'success'?

    With a tumour, it would be a reduction in tumor size.
    CRF (human or cat) would be an improvement in kidney function.
    Heart Disease would be a reduction of arterial furring and improved cardio-vascular function.

    Etc, etc, I could go on.

    What evidence do you have that patients receiving your treatment along side conventional treatment do better than conventional treatment alone?

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    Gary,
    Can you explain how crystals work along side real medicine?

    Can you also answer my question about where and for how long you studied hypnotherapy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Bymble View Post
    crystals(I still have a large collection gathering dust)
    Enjoy them for what they are. Geological marvels formed by slowly cooling magma. No more, no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryMannion View Post
    I would like to make it clear to everyone again that I do not cut skin I am sorry if that is how the picture looks it is the one the magazine chose to go with. However if you read the article it clearly state the surgery is non invasive. I do not cut skin.
    Yes, we know. In fact, you don't do anything at all. That's the whole problem. Which means that not only are you a fraud, you're not even a very good one. At least the competent frauds actually fake doing surgery, but you don't even bother with that.

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    Hi Gary,
    If as you say you do not cut the skin, why then is it necessary for you to cover one hand with the other? Am sure you can see yourself that you adopt the classic posture omitting vew with one hand from what is going on with the other, one that has been used by many debunked psychic healers/surgeons.

    Btw thanks for coming along to explain what you do, that on it's own takes guts, I just sincerely hope you are not getting in above your head here Gary.

    Also hi to everyone, it's my first post and great to be part of the forum

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    Gary,

    I'm not sure what you mean about the possibility of me 'feeling no benefit' from the type of treatment you offer as I haven't mentioned any health problems. My main concern is your use of psychic surgery, and if you read the BadPsychics article carefully you'll see that I make it clear that you DON'T follow the example of the Filipino psychic surgeons by claiming to physically remove tumours. The photo of you in action also clearly shows that the patient is fully clothed, there is no incision and no 'blood'. I also find it rather disturbing that your workshops include information about how psychic surgery works when there is absolutely no empirical evidence that it does.

    I'd also like to point out that since testimonials unsupported by medical/scientific evidence are of absolutely no value, sceptics do not use them to disprove claims of psychic abilities. What we require is solid evidence. Even the most outrageously bogus psychic surgeons, faith healers and alternative medical practitioners have had no difficulty in producing stacks of testimonials from people desperate enough to believe in them.

    If it's at all possible I'd be interested in setting up a meeting between yourself and an equally sceptical person living closer to St Albans - more about this later.

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    Re: "non-evasive psychic surgery"

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryMannion
    Secondly the person who mentioned about blind test please give me more details
    Gary,

    I think you may be referring to me. I wrote:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jocky
    any trial of a proposed treatment must be based on an objective protocol ("it is a fair test"), and the implementation must be unbiased ("they don't intentionally try and prove it wrong"). Nobody will disagree with that.

    The usual way of conducting a fair trial, which measures results in an objective and reproducible manner, is to use placebo controls.

    The usual way to ensure that the personal prejudices of those involved do not effect the outcome is to ensure that the trial is double blinded.

    Are you familiar with these ideas?
    I deduce from your response that you do not know what I mean by "placebo controlled" and "double blind".

    Here is a quick reference source which will explain those terms.

    Would you consider a trial based on these principles?

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    for the person who enquired about crystals, I'm afraid my knowledge on crystals is quite limited. You would bve best suited to speak to a place like Isis Crystals as I would not like to give you any wrong information

    I would like to makee it clear that I know Psychic Surgery works and so do my clients who have had success because of it. (Please be aware some of my clients have been under the medical profession for years and seen no benefit, yet after seeing me they become well. sounds like a bit more then just sheer luck of placebo effect). However because of the way the law is I cannot come out and say I have cured anyone it is illegal for anyone to do that unless it has been done through scientific testing e.t.c. Which I havn't done because me and my clients havn't needed to as they are just happy to be well. However I am willing to undergo tests even for my benfit to gain a deeper understanding of how it is working physically. I also fully believe in Homeopathy however I think it would be best to allow someone who is a homeopath to talk about that subject as I again don't want to give wrong information (which I feel has happened a lot on this forum from both sides of the argument).

    Julia I would be happy to see your friend in St Albans and see how I can help. If you private message me we will make arrangments.

    Jocky the idea of the tests seem fair enough.

    For the person who asked about hypnosis. I have done various courses over the years to do with Hypnosis (I don't think any of them have any big affilialion) and as you have stated Hypnosis is not regulated by any govermental body. However I only use hypnosis for past life regression. Other problems I would use Psychic Surgery. However am considering doing another course with the college of Hypnotheapy in London in the new year yet don't think I will be working to much with hypnosis.

    Lastly thank you to everyone who has been private messaging me with your kind words and comments. Especially those who I have treated in the past and have has success. I also completely understand why some of you chose not to post on here and am not offended in the slightest

    If someone has made a comment I have not replied to I am very sorry I am not avoiding your question. Please post it again and I will answer it as best I can

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindeweede View Post
    These operations, which are completely safe and painless, are non-evasive, and require no surgical instruments, or removal of clothing.
    I don't know if this has already been pointed out to you but the correct expression for this for this type of "surgery" is NON-INVASIVE as in the body is not 'invaded' by surgical instruments etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SorryImPsychic View Post
    ......the correct expression for this for this type of "surgery" is NON-INVASIVE as in the body is not 'invaded' by surgical instruments etc.
    You haven't read the beginning of this thread, have you? ???

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    lol

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    However am considering doing another course with the college of Hypnotheapy in London in the new year yet don't think I will be working to much with hypnosis.
    Gary

    You have me confused here. This is the Wikipedia definition of hypnotherapy..



    Hypnotherapy is therapy that is undertaken with a subject in hypnosis.
    The word "hypnosis" is an abbreviation of James Braid's (1843) term "neuro-hypnotism", meaning "sleep of the nervous system".
    A person who is hypnotized displays certain unusual characteristics and propensities, compared with a non-hypnotized subject, most notably hyper-suggestibility, which some authorities have considered a sine qua non of hypnosis. For example, Clark L. Hull, probably the first major empirical researcher in the field, wrote,
    If a subject after submitting to the hypnotic procedure shows no genuine increase in susceptibility to any suggestions whatever, there seems no point in calling him hypnotised [...] (Hull, Hypnosis & Suggestion, 1933: 392) Hypnotherapy is often applied in order to modify a subject's behavior, emotional content, and attitudes, as well as a wide range of conditions including dysfunctional habits, anxiety, stress-related illness, pain management, and personal development.

    I don't understand how a hypnotherapy course can not involve hypnosis. Could you clarify for me please?

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