"non-evasive psychic surgery"

[Mongrel]

That's 30 years old for a start, so I've no idea whether or not the same pesticides are used nowadays - probably not.

There's also nothing in there about injecting arsenic into pieces of fruit - it is talking about the residues left into the soil. Something completely different.

And the report states

Arsenic is one of the few metal elements for which recent developments indicate a decreasing rather than increasing concern over concentration in the food chain.

I'm not a farmer but AFAIK we've been steadily developing pesticides and herbicides which work better, are less toxic to both the local environment and the people using it and break down much quicker.

[bindeweede]

I know Gary isn't strong on attention to detail - or his Publicity Manager isn't - but if you are claiming your abilites are being tested and the evidence is being scientifically gathered, you'd think somebody would try to get the names right.

I am also undertaking research with Professor Archie Roy and Patricia Roberts who are members of the Charity Prism. They are in the process of scientifically gathering the evidence and compiling it (more information on this research will be available soon)

(From "Psychic Surgery" - "Where is the proof Psychic Surgery exists")

http://www.garymannion.com/

[bindeweede]

Kitkat has recently posted this on the spiritlove forum. Good questions, I think. Does anyone here have any answers?

In his reference to Harry Oldfield, Gary mentioned (and has also made reference somewhere here) some proposed testing involving a FARADAY CAGE

What would such testing prove or disprove? I have googled various references as to what it is and what it does, but still none the wiser. Can anyone explain (in plain English) what they would be looking to find where Gary is concerned?

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Kitkat has recently posted this on the spiritlove forum. Good questions, I think. Does anyone here have any answers?

I can't think of anything rational.

However I think that's the problem, you need to trace back in whatever assumptions or methodology they are supposedly using and see where they make their first logical error. It sounds like they are making a really dodgy assumption somewhere along the line to decide that a Faraday cage is required.

The crap that Oldfield does however is based around electro-scanning and similar such terms, so putting Gary in some sort of scientific sounding device may be a ploy to give experiments more credence than they deserve.

[Mojo]

Perhaps they're trying to prove that Gary isn't a radio-controlled automaton.

[Mojo]

For someone else proposing to use a Faraday cage, see this.

[Dubious Dick]

I will be corrected but...as far as I understand it a Faraday Cage will prevent a person/animal inside from suffering an electric shock. So we might assume that if he is sat inside one, any electrical force can be eliminated? What the heck that would prove or disprove as regards Abraham and his cohort of spirit psychic surgeons I am at a complete loss to even begin to understand/explain.

If it was sufficiently well constructed and he was locked inside it then we could always see if his spiritual powers could effect an escape, perhaps? Now that would be interesting because it may keep him quiet for a while. I'll supply the padlock! Anyone got a well built Faraday Cage?

[Mongrel]

I will be corrected but...as far as I understand it a Faraday Cage will prevent a person/animal inside from suffering an electric shock. So we might assume that if he is sat inside one, any electrical force can be eliminated? What the heck that would prove or disprove as regards Abraham and his cohort of spirit psychic surgeons I am at a complete loss to even begin to understand/explain.

If it was sufficiently well constructed and he was locked inside it then we could always see if his spiritual powers could effect an escape, perhaps? Now that would be interesting because it may keep him quiet for a while. I'll supply the padlock! Anyone got a well built Faraday Cage?

Properly constructed a Farady Cage prevents any electromagnetic signal entering, properly built it'll shrug off anything from a radio signal to a lightning bolt. The emphasis comes down to "properly built", the smallest flaw will allow anything from radio signals to lightning bolts to effect the person or apparatus inside.....

Come to think of it I have a fantastic way to test the proposed Faraday Cage, all I need is a large generator

[skbuncks]

[skb dons tin foil hat and twists mind to the logic of woo]

- put patient in Faraday cage
- have Mannion attempt to perform psychic surgery whilst he outside cage
- Mannion will fail becaue his psychic powers cannot travel through the Faraday cage
- Therefore by woo logic Mannions powers are real

[skb removes tin foil hat before permanent damage is done/]

skb

[Julia]

If Harry Oldfield's bizarre inventions are anything to go by I wouldn't put much faith in his ability to set up a Faraday cage properly. And since he's unfettered by the shackles of "Newtonian science" I'm sure he'll interpret the results to suit his beliefs.

http://stargoss.co.uk/garymannion/modules/news/

[Julia]

Do we have any members in the Norwich area? Gary will be giving an "Indigo Child Workshop and Psychic Surgery Demonstration" there on 6th December.

[bindeweede]

Do we have any members in the Norwich area? Gary will be giving an "Indigo Child Workshop and Psychic Surgery Demonstration" there on 6th December.

You'll have to be quick - only 3 places left!

How to recognise and care for Indigo Children
Saturday,06 Dec 2008 10:00 AM (10 Days to go)
Watton, please call for details,IP25 6DB

3 Places Left
Gary is well known for his Indigo work, he himself an Indigo his workshop will be a very informative.
During this special workshop, Gary will take a very practical approach to the Indigo Phenomenon as well as looking at the spiritual aspects.
Your questions about Indigos will be answered. What are Indigos? When did they first start to enter the Earth plane? What are Crystal and Rainbow Children? How are they different? How can you recognise an Indigo? Why are so many classed as having ADHD or ADD? How are Indigos linked to the Ascension in 2012? Why are drugs like Ritalin bad for them?
Through role play, you will discover different techniques designed to help Indigos and those who care for them and learn about safe techniques that can be used as an alternative to harmful drugs.
Workshop fee £50, Shared lunch.

http://norfolk.thespiritguides.co.uk/Newsletter.aspx

[MischiefMonkey]

£50!!!!!


Yes, I may spend more than that on a good night out but at least it is the local pubs/clubs, Balti, a brewery or two and a taxi firm profiting (and the treasury with their lovely 2.5% VAT reduction) not some con merchant.

[Julia]

Gary will be in Watton on the next day too, doing private readings on a donation basis. I wonder if he pays income tax on these donations?

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Gary will be in Watton on the next day too, doing private readings on a donation basis. I wonder if he pays income tax on these donations?

Didn't he answer this a long time ago by saying he gives receipts?

I'll need to go hunt down that answer.