This is actually genuinely paranormal. I've seen Uri Geller perform the trick feat.
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We used to do that crap in school. Your telling me after all this time I actually had psychic powers?
Gary doing a bit of correction? The "Keith Banfield" testimonial mentioningno longer mentions Mannie being lead physio, or the hospital.Mannie (who is the lead Physiotherapist at Northwick park hospital and who has seen me work many times).
http://www.divinemessengers.com/GM%20Testamonials.htm
And the abehealing site, which used to have the same original testimonial, seems to be down.
I recently e-mailed Northwick Park to inform them that one of Gary's sites was STILL naming the hospital and claiming that Mannie was Head of Physiotherapy. Something tells me that they've been in touch with Gary...Originally Posted by bindeweede
I have a question for Gary, which I doubt he will answer, but I guess the answer would be quite interesting.
Does Abraham ever talk about how he almost killed his son because God told him to?
LOL.
Its true if you could ever speak to a religous feature you would ask them about the gossipy bits.
"I almost killed my son because God told me too" - Sounds like a Jeremy Kyle show in the making.
According to the UUKPS website:
We do not charge for our Healing, we charge for our time.
Does this statement actually mean anything in a legal sense? Suppose a client paid £40 for "healing" and didn't improve (or even got worse). If they asked for a refund would the UUKPS be able to say "Sorry, but I don't actually claim to cure anything and the £40 was just for my time"?
Well firstly of course I'm not a lawyer and don't even play one on TV.
I think the no guarentee of success is pretty standard. No lawyer is going to argue that he doesn't deserve to be paid if he loses the case. He too doesn't charge for the win but for his time and effort in trying to obtain it.
The problem comes if there's absolutely no chance that Gary's time is going to have the effect the customer thinks it might.
I have skim read The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 and it seems to my mind, unschooled though it is in legal matters that Gary's testimonials could constitute a "Misleading Action" if they contained false information or were factually true but omitted important information. e.g. "My cancer was cured after Psychic surgery" might omit that they were recieving chemotherapy at the time and had a good prognosis anyway.
The Paragraph 4 it mentions includes the benefits of the service.5.—(1) A commercial practice is a misleading action if it satisfies the conditions in either paragraph (2) or paragraph (3).
(2) A commercial practice satisfies the conditions of this paragraph—
(a) if it contains false information and is therefore untruthful in relation to any of the matters in paragraph (4) or if it or its overall presentation in any way deceives or is likely to deceive the average consumer in relation to any of the matters in that paragraph, even if the information is factually correct; and
(b) it causes or is likely to cause the average consumer to take a transactional decision he would not have taken otherwise.
So if a reasonable person would infer that spending money to pay for Gary's time is likely to have the benefits described in a false or misleading testimonial then I suspect that yes this is a measleading action.
Whats more the burden is somewhat shifted with regard to demonstrating the truth of these testimonials.
I think this means this mean that if the court deems it appropriate they can call on Gary to substantiate the testimonials and if he fails to do so rule the claim inaccurate - guilty until proven innnocent.27. After section 218 of the Enterprise Act 2002 insert—
“218A Unfair commercial practices: substantiation of claims
(1) This section applies where an application for an enforcement order or for an interim enforcement order is made in respect of a Community infringement involving a contravention of Directive 2005/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 11 May 2005 concerning unfair business-to-consumer commercial practices in the internal market.
(2) For the purposes of considering the application the court may require the person named in the application to provide evidence as to the accuracy of any factual claim made as part of a commercial practice of that person if, taking into account the legitimate interests of that person and any other party to the proceedings, it appears appropriate in the circumstances.
(3) If, having been required under subsection (2) to provide evidence as to the accuracy of a factual claim, a person—
(a) fails to provide such evidence, or
(b) provides evidence as to the accuracy of the factual claim that the court considers inadequate,
the court may consider that the factual claim is inaccurate.
(4) In this section “commercial practice” has the meaning given by regulation 2 of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.”.
So it's not down to you to track down Roger from Essex whose incurrable disease is reported to have gone away after he was treated by Gary. You don't have to find out for yourself if he actually exists, was telling the truth and was quoted accurately and if not you don't have to prove that he doesn't exist, was lying or was missquoted.
Instead it's up to Gary to prove that Roger does exist and was cured.
However I doubt that the courts would be eager to impose a fine and a 2 year Jail Sentance for a first offense. Instead they would issue an enforcement order that dictated what could and what could not be said by Gary in relation to his services.
Only if he continued to flaut such orders would they bring out the big guns.
I wonder if Abraham is poorly. The abehealing site has been down for some time.
Still, I'm sure on of Abe's 37 consultants will be able to sort him out.
As long as they don't promise to cure him, of course...
No, Abe and his cronies know nowt about computers.I wonder if Abraham is poorly
Still, I'm sure on of Abe's 37 consultants will be able to sort him out.
I do believe, however, that John the Baptist can be channelled as an IT specialist.
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Well, some clarification from Gary about who is going to test his claims. He quotes from the Unity of UK Psychic Surgeons. That sounds impressive, doesn't it? But hang on, the last time I looked, Gary is one of the 3 founders of that organisation.
Perhaps I've got it all wrong.
I can now give more information about the research I am undergoing. Firstly I made an error. I thought it was through a university I have now come to realise it is with 2 professors from Glasgow University however the research is being carried out by them for a charity called Prism. Below is a bit of info taken from the Unity of Uk Psychic Surgeons website which gives more detail!
Psychical Researcher's
The three founder member's of this organisation are currently undergoing evaluation by respected psychical researcher's Professor Archie E Roy, BSc PhD FRAS FRSE FBIS and Tricia Robertson who in turn have made their report to a recognised charity named PRISM.
PRISM was set up to evaluate claims of mediumship, in its many forms.
Professor Archie E Roy Founded the Scottish Society for Psychical Research in 1987.
To date three papers on this matter have been published in the peer reviewed Journal of the Society for Psychical Research, which is based in London.
This study of claims of Psychic Surgery will span many years, but so far the results are very encouraging.
Although PRISM (providing the initial funding) will disband due to reduced numbers later this year. The funding for this project will be available from other scientific sources.
Tricia J Robertson
http://spiritlove.freeforums.org/loc...-t306-575.html
Is Tricia a Professor?
Well, this suggests not.
http://malvern.butterleypark.org.uk/...arobertson.htm
Last edited by bindeweede; 27th April 2008 at 10:18 PM.
So poor literacy and poor maths. I think poor Gary might have some educational needs.
I have to say at times i feel sorry for Gary. He is young, seems to have some kind of learning difficulty (my guess would be dyslexia, but it is a total guess) and seems to have been groomed to this life. He has been made to feel special and to let go of that must be hard. But then I think, surely given the plane evidence presented before him he can't believe what he says. I really hope that he will come to his senses some day and he'll end up being a voice for reason, having escaped from the clutches of 'woo'.
MischiefMonkey,
I really hope that he will come to his senses some day and he'll end up being a voice for reason, having escaped from the clutches of 'woo'.
Well, I do too. He could go to college, get some sort of qualification, earn an honest living, and do his "healing" in a spiritualist church, for free.
But I doubt he will - now this is cynical rather than sceptical - it is an easier way of life conning the gullible out of their money. So what would be his incentive?
Oh yes.I have to say at times i feel sorry for Gary. He is young, seems to have some kind of learning difficulty (my guess would be dyslexia, but it is a total guess) and seems to have been groomed to this life. He has been made to feel special and to let go of that must be hard. But then I think, surely given the plane evidence presented before him he can't believe what he says. I really hope that he will come to his senses some day and he'll end up being a voice for reason, having escaped from the clutches of 'woo'. http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/sho...7242#post37242
Gary---do you mind answering this? Has anyone made you feel special because of your 'talents'?.
Do you find the remarks about your grammer hurtful?They really should just concentrate on your claims.
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