Reply With QuoteHello again, Gary.
Any comments on the email from the House of Commons?
Or that The Chartered Society of Physiotherapy has never had "Manesh Naidoo" as a member.
12.59 and he's gone. No comments.
The Chartered Society of Physiotherapy has never had "Manesh Naidoo" as a member. I've asked them to check on the other two Naidoo names but it's not looking too good for Gary, is it?
Hello again, Gary.
Any comments on the email from the House of Commons?
Or that The Chartered Society of Physiotherapy has never had "Manesh Naidoo" as a member.
12.59 and he's gone. No comments.
Last edited by bindeweede; 7th February 2008 at 01:00 PM. Reason: missing words. Added comment.
Maybe he is collecting information for his 'deformation' case?
I assume he keeps meaning defamation, and from Wikipedia:
InI wonder if he thinks our criticism of his imaginary friends is groundless?law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel) is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism.
It really can't be nice reading all this stuff about himself when he visits the forum. I wonder if he realises why we write it.
Have you got a consicence Mannion?
Hi all and hi Gary
Been lurking for a while and thought I might as well enter into the fray.
Gary, you are possibly feeling a little persecuted at the moment. Maybe a touch "picked on".
It might be a smart thing to stop for a second a think about this. Do you think all the people on this forum who are giving you such a hard time are just bad people? Do you think that people who are skeptical of claims such as yours and are vocal about it are just nasty at heart?
Or could it be that skeptics are just people who are brave enough to say what you kind of know in your heart anyway. You know that genuine people don't have to lie about their credentials right? You know that genuine medics have records of their patients progress which speak for themselves and would do so even if subjected to the harshest scrutiny right?
The reason that you are having to take sneaky peeks on here and then run away without posting the responses that you've been asked for is that deep down, you know that people here have a point. You can't admit it at the moment, but it's there at the back of your mind niggling away like a little itch.
Any sensitive person can realize how hard it would be now for you to back down, to stop doing what you do, stop earning the way you do and stop embracing this whole psychic surgeon thing. It might be the hardest thing you have ever done. But you know what Gary?.. It would make a man of you. It would let the whole world know that some people are brave enough to admit mistakes and can realize that doing so is a far more noble course than continuing to exploit the hopes and vulnerabilities of others.
Gary, you are still young. You face a choice now. You can make your whole life a nasty parasitic lie, or you can step up and do what you know is right.
Good luck with making the right decision.
BW
Last edited by blindwatchmaker; 7th February 2008 at 02:08 PM.
Blindwatchmaker?
You can't be Richard Dawkins, can you?
Well, if it is, I'll faint ... my hero!
I wish!
No he's my hero too, hence the name.
Ah damn.Welcome anyway.
I hope Gary will take your comments on board, and that he might even answer you. I suspect that hope will be dashed on both counts, somehow.
I doubt very much that he will, but can you imagine what a hero he'd become if he did?..
As Gary claims to be an "Indigo", this might explain some some of the things he writes about these children on his websites, and might also explain his self-confidence.
http://skepdic.com/indigo.html
....and it has nothing to do with the colour of your aura, in case you thought it did
and... just in case you heard otherwise from other "indigo" sources, the designated word "Indigo" has nothing to do with the color of an aura! It is the result of scientific observations by a woman who has the brain disorder called synesthesia
Last edited by bindeweede; 7th February 2008 at 04:10 PM. Reason: additional info
Welcome to UK-Skeptics, blindwatchmaker, and thanks for that excellent post.
Yes, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that Gary is only 20. There's a possibility, albeit a slight one, that he is being exploited by the people around him or he may be genuinely deluded. However, I'm quite sure that he isn't being FORCED to do what he's doing. It must be very gratifying to have the credophiles fawning all over you on woo websites or to stand in front of an audience of 250 overwhelmingly uncritical people at St James Church.
We're not out to persecute Gary for the pleasure of it. We want to make it perfectly clear to him and others like him that not everyone is gullible, poorly educated or desperate to believe in paranormal powers because we want them to be real. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that the responsibility for Monday night's woofest lies not with Gary but with Alternatives: www.alternatives.org.uk:
"Inspiring heart, mind and soul.
We host Monday talks at St James’s Church, Piccadilly and weekend
workshops in spirituality, creativity, wellbeing and self development.
Since 1982, we have welcomed the most well-known names in the Mind Body Spirit world.
We are dedicated to the exploration of diverse ways of living and being.
We honour all spiritual traditions and welcome people of all cultures."
Since when has psychic surgery been a "spiritual tradition"? It seems to be a comparatively modern invention popularized by fraudsters in the Philippines and Brazil. And do all "spiritual traditions" deserve to be honoured? A look at Alternatives' coming attractions reveals that on 25th February St James' is playing host to Tony Stockwell - yes, the spectacularly unsuccessful psychic sleuth:
http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles...php?storyid=66
When Bindeweede got in touch with the Rector of St James, Revd. Charles Hedley, to question the suitability of an Anglican church playing host to Gary's performance, Revd. Hedley replied that the church in no way validated the content of Gary's "demonstration of psychic surgery" but merely gave the audience an opportunity to "evaluate" what they saw. It's quite obvious from the reports made by Bindeweede and Professor Chris French that there was precious little evaluation going on - the vast majority of the audience swallowed Gary's act whole, and I'm sure many of them felt that the surroundings of St James' gave the proceedings an air of authority they would have lacked in a community centre or village hall.
Last edited by Julia; 7th February 2008 at 10:02 PM. Reason: Typo
Thanks for the welcome Julia. I have a long way to go if I'm going to achieve a respectable post count!
I remember going to an event at St James a few years back. I forget the guy's name, but he was an early proponent of Remote Viewing and was involved in the silly research at Stanford with Targ and Puthoff in the early 70s.
The only other time I've ever seen so many credulous people in one place was at a Derek Acorah (Cough..Splutter..Shiver) performance.
I've heard the guy who runs Alternatives at St James on the very terrible Psychic Show with the unspeakably moronic Becky Walsh on LBC (who should be totally ashamed to host such drivel).
I find the whole Mind Body Spirit fad nausiating.
I couldn't agree with you more about the MBS thing. I cringe whenever I walk past that section in bookshops.
I would like to make it clear to everyone that I fully believe and back Psychic Surgery.
I know it works and my clients and I have seen the result of it.
I am not deluded or trying to con anyone.
I do Psychic Surgery because I want to help people and yes I make no claims because for legal reasons I can not claim - Yet I fully believe that Psychic Surgery works (just don't claim it).
The reason I choose not to post on this site is because everyone has done nothing but attacked anything I or anyone else in support of alternative treatments has said. Instead of looking at both sides of the arguments. Even going as far as to believe things that aren't true without evidence, like the comment posted about me being banned from Harrow Spiritualist church and other churches (thank you to whoever posted the comment from HarrowSpiritualistChurch stating that I am not banned from there)
Some of you have visited spirit love forums which I answer questions put to me by believers and sceptics to the best of my ability. I answer because people ask the questions and read the responses, they don't just attack everything I say.
People on this forum have even gone as far as to Harass people I have worked with in the past and centres that I am currently working at. Then you ask why I don't comment or give details any more.
I have nothing to prove to people like that. That is why this is the last comment I will be making on here.
And Lastly for those who are so worried about my tax I have an accountant, everyone I see is given a receipt so that is fine thank you for your concern
Well I think that people here have tried to check what has been said, really. That is why they contacted the church and posted the reply, for example.
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