"non-evasive psychic surgery"

[GaryMannion]

Site is not letting me copy and paste testamonial if you would like a copy of it please tell me your email address and I will email it to you.

[seren]

Dr Gowri Motha is a holistic obstetrician, combining medical training with expertise in a number of complementary therapies. Gowri loves helping others feel energetic, healthy and happy and has been using healing for over 20 years. She has created the Jeyarani gentle birth method, which offers creative healing with other therapies such as reflexology, craniosacral therapy and ayurveda. She also uses creative healing to treat a range of concerns, including fertility.

http://www.viveka.co.uk/specialities/gowri_motha3.html

A Google search for "Manesh Naidoo" brings up nothing, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

The last is a homeopathic doctor. Say no more.

[Matt]

Hello everyone sorry for not getting back sooner. I actually forgot about this forum.

Some of the medical professions I work with are

Dr Gowri Motha - Got waterbirth into the Nhs

Manesh Naidoo - Head Physiotherapiist for Northwick park Hospital

Dr Glen Davies - Homeopatic Doctor, with over 30 years experiance.

E.t.c I will have to ask the other medical professions if I can post their Details.

For any of those who don't believe in Psychic Surgery please have a read of this testamonial below and see what you think.

Hi Gary,

On a technical note you could try pasting your testimonial into notepad and then into the forum.

On a note of skepticism here's a video of illusionist Chris Angel performing "psychic surgery."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07748220373823

Now we know that Chris Angel is not a psychic. We know he's an illusionist and he'll reveal some of these techniques. Others of his techniques he'll reveal only to other illusionists as they're trade secrets.

Here's the story of Alex Orbito who appears to be pulling the same schtick but claiming he's genuine.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/ge...eneral475.html

Here's the story of that self same man being indicted on charges of fraud.

http://www.filipinoreporter.com/arch...headline03.htm

As we investigate Orbito we find that many testimonials are available, from celebrities and medical professionals alike and yet we still find that he is more likely than not a fraud. In fact we believe all psychic surgery of this nature to be a fraud as does the US Federal Trade Commission.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...8BD95F418785F9

The exitence of such testimonials in cases known to be fraudulent shows how convincing this fraud can be.

I have no doubt that at least some of the people claiming to be psychic surgeons with testimonials no less impressive than yours, are simply convincing frauds pulling the same stunts a Chris Angel demonstrates.

You claim to be different. The testimonials are not different, perhaps a willingness to submit to propper testing will mark you out as someting special.

I do hope so.

[bobdezon]

psychic surgery? I wonder how long it will be before you kill someone with your idiocy?

[seren]

More on Dr Gowri Motha:

Gowri Motha M.D. has bright eyes, a soft voice and an aura of calm that would seem to quell any mother-to-be's jitters. But London's leading natural-birth guru and the obstetrician who helped deliver Gwyneth Paltrow's baby, Apple, has some radical ideas about childbirth, starting with the very idea of labor. All the pain, the panting, the pushing, she believes, could one day be rendered virtually obsolete. "I have this dream that every baby should be breathed out of the mother's body," she says. "The uterus has enough power to push the baby out without all the huffing and [puffing?]

You have to sign in to read the rest of it and I'm not going to. Another one of the "it only hurts because you think it does" brigade.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-131279728.html

Oh, and I've now tried Googling Manesh Naidoo, Manish Naidoo, Manish Naidu, Manesh Naidu, M Naidu and M Naidoo, with and without references to Northwick Park Hospital. I gots nuthin.

[Cuddles]

Dr Gowri Motha - Got waterbirth into the Nhs

She's a quack who is in to reflexology and various other crap. She may have done decent work in the past, but associating with someone described as "the celebs guru" is hardly a good endorsement for you.

Manesh Naidoo - Head Physiotherapiist for Northwick park Hospital

According to the hospital, the head physiotherapist is Sangita Patel.

Dr Glen Davies - Homeopatic Doctor, with over 30 years experiance.

And you think saying you're friends with someone who gives water and sugar pills to ill people is going to help your case how exactly?

Of course, most real doctors I've met have also heard of the word "professionals". Of course, being unable to write coherently doesn't make you wrong, but it certainly makes one wonder if you actually know what you're talking about.

[bindeweede]

Just in case anyone thought I was making it up -

www.isis-crystals.com

That website seems to be down at the moment, but you still get info about crystal healing from the same chap -

www.thecrystalhealer.co.uk

But to be honest, I think this is more up my street

http://www.metaphysicalsociety.com/about-MSEC.asp

[Mongrel]

EDIT - didn't notice page 2 my bad

[DrS]

Gary, have you ever operated on anyone publicly or verifiably?

[megan]

Witten on December 5th 2007
I am Megan Ford from Wiltshire aged 63.

I had BPPV - Benign, Paroxysmal, Positional, Vertigo, caused by a head injury, sustained in a road accident in 1962, when I was 18 years old. The impact displaced the otoconia, which are crystals of calcium carbonate, sometimes called ear rocks, in my left ear, thus allowing them to move around in the semi-circular canal in the ear.

The effects of BPPV started in the 1970's, in my mid thirties. The symptoms are, dizziness, disorientation and nausea.and it feels like being drunk or seasick. I was having 10 to 12 dizzy episodes a day, most lasting only seconds, but often the symptoms lasted for several days and twice, in 1980 and 1990 they lasted for months. All I could do when I had an "attack" was to lie in bed, propped up and keep still.

For 30 years I haven't been able to lie down flat, turn over in bed, always sleeping on my right side, tilt my head up or down or turn my head to the left. It is a very debilitating condition. During the last 30 years I've been given, through my doctors: pills, X-rays, a brain scan, traction and physiotherapy. I have been sent to see an orthopaedic surgeon and an ENT specialist. I have also paid for dozens of sessions with acupuncturists, chiropractors, reflexologists and physiotherapists. I was always told that it was due to damage to my upper spine, admittedly when I was dizzy I did have pain in my neck, but I now believe that was because of the rigid way I held my head during an attack. I was given a neck collar to wear, which did help, but only because it prevented me from moving my head!

In 2003 it was a private physiotherapist (Chris Smith) who diagnosed BPPV and he performed the Epley Manoeuvre (a positioning technique to move the otoconia to a less sensitive area of the ear). This series of movements made me feel very sick, but did work for a few weeks.

In July 2007 I saw Gary Mannion, a 19 year old, with no medical knowledge or experience, demonstrating psychic surgery in a tent in Somerset. I made an appointment with him on August 12th 2007. I was with Gary for 20 minutes. He just put his hands over my ears. I felt nothing. He told me the crystals in my ear would dissolve during the next few days. (It was interesting that he also said, as the crystals dissolved I may lose some hearing, which I had read could happen if they were removed surgically. I'm glad to say this didn't happen, but as I said at the time, I'd sooner be deaf in one ear than live as I was)
I was very careful at first, dreading the "seasickness", but gradually realised I was not having any episodes.
I can now lie down, turn over, de-cobweb my ceilings! Zip up my boots, get things out of the kitchen cupboards, have a bath instead of a shower and do everyday things too numerous to mention, things I have been unable to do for 30 years. Now 4 months after seeing Gary I haven't had even a fleeting bout of dizziness.

20 minutes with Gary and I've got my life back after 30 years at the age of 63. Eternal gratitude to Gary & Abraham.

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2nd visit
I returned to Gary on October 5th 07, 8 weeks later to reassure me that there were no crystals - this he did. I could now lie down on his couch! I had a spine injury from the same accident in 1962, but I also had high blood pressure. Gary said the blood pressure was a priority and again he treated me for 20 minutes, the treatment appearing to me to me much the same. I was taking 3 different pills a day and my BP was around 155-160/90-95. After 8 weeks and gradually reducing my pills as my BP dropped, I was taking 1 pill a day and my BP reading was 120-125/70-75.
(I do check my BP most days as I know it is dangerous to come of pills too quickly) Gary did not advise me.

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3rd visit
My next appointment was December 3rd07 for my spine. Gary diagnosed a twist and compacted vertebrae in the middle of my spine (around my bra line). I knew this to be true as I've had several x-rays. I lay on my front, which would have been impossible 4 months previously, and he worked on my spine, this was painless, but I could hear the vertebrae moving or grating - very weird sensation. He said I would have some pain for a few days and would need to see him once more for my neck. I did experience pain for 2 days and my back was generating a lot of heat.

[megan]

Site is not letting me copy and paste testamonial if you would like a copy of it please tell me your email address and I will email it to you.

I.ve pasted it in my post but here it is for everyone to read.
December 5th 2007
I am Megan Ford from Wiltshire aged 63.

I had BPPV - Benign, Paroxysmal, Positional, Vertigo, caused by a head injury, sustained in a road accident in 1962, when I was 18 years old. The impact displaced the otoconia, which are crystals of calcium carbonate, sometimes called ear rocks, in my left ear, thus allowing them to move around in the semi-circular canal in the ear.

The effects of BPPV started in the 1970's, in my mid thirties. The symptoms are, dizziness, disorientation and nausea and it feels like being drunk or seasick. I was having 10 to 12 dizzy episodes a day, most lasting only seconds, but often the symptoms lasted for several days and twice, in 1980 and 1990 they lasted for months. All I could do when I had an "attack" was to lie in bed, propped up and keep still.

For 30 years I haven't been able to lie down flat, turn over in bed, always sleeping on my right side, tilt my head up or down or turn my head to the left. It is a very debilitating condition. During the last 30 years I've been given, through my doctors: pills, X-rays, a brain scan, traction and physiotherapy. I have been sent to see an orthopaedic surgeon and an ENT specialist. I have also paid for dozens of sessions with acupuncturists, chiropractors, reflexologists and physiotherapists. I was always told that it was due to damage to my upper spine, admittedly when I was dizzy I did have pain in my neck, but I now believe that was because of the rigid way I held my head during an attack. I was given a neck collar to wear, which did help, but only because it prevented me from moving my head!

In 2003 it was a private physiotherapist (Chris Smith) who diagnosed BPPV and he performed the Epley Manoeuvre (a positioning technique to move the otoconia to a less sensitive area of the ear). This series of movements made me feel very sick, but did work for a few weeks.

In July 2007 I saw Gary Mannion, a 19 year old, with no medical knowledge or experience, demonstrating psychic surgery in a tent in Somerset. I made an appointment with him on August 12th 2007. I was with Gary for 20 minutes. He just put his hands over my ears. I felt nothing. He told me the crystals in my ear would dissolve during the next few days. (It was interesting that he also said, as the crystals dissolved I may lose some hearing, which I had read could happen if they were removed surgically. I'm glad to say this didn't happen, but as I said at the time, I'd sooner be deaf in one ear than live as I was)
I was very careful at first, dreading the "seasickness", but gradually realised I was not having any episodes.
I can now lie down, turn over, de-cobweb my ceilings! Zip up my boots, get things out of the kitchen cupboards, have a bath instead of a shower and do everyday things too numerous to mention, things I have been unable to do for 30 years. Now 4 months after seeing Gary I haven't had even a fleeting bout of dizziness.

20 minutes with Gary and I've got my life back after 30 years at the age of 63. Eternal gratitude to Gary & Abraham.

---------------------------------------------

2nd visit
I returned to Gary on October 5th 07, 8 weeks later to reassure me that there were no crystals - this he did. I could now lie down on his couch! I had a spine injury from the same accident in 1962, but I also had high blood pressure. Gary said the blood pressure was a priority and again he treated me for 20 minutes, the treatment appearing to me to me much the same. I was taking 3 different pills a day and my BP was around 155-160/90-95. After 8 weeks and gradually reducing my pills as my BP dropped, I was taking 1 pill a day and my BP reading was 120-125/70-75.
(I do check my BP most days as I know it is dangerous to come of pills too quickly) Gary did not advise me.

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3rd visit
My next appointment was December 3rd07 for my spine. Gary diagnosed a twist and compacted vertebrae in the middle of my spine (around my bra line). I knew this to be true as I've had several x-rays. I lay on my front, which would have been impossible 4 months previously, and he worked on my spine, this was painless, but I could hear the vertebrae moving or grating - very weird sensation. He said I would have some pain for a few days and would need to see him once more for my neck. I did experience pain for 2 days and my back was generating a lot of heat.

[bobdezon]

I dont believe a word of that , you randomly come to defend your "surgeon" and offer no proof of your claims, and expect everyone to just say "ok well thats that sorted then". Seriously if you really want to assist gary then you should provide medical evidence to show your previously existing condition is no more, and make sure your doctor states there was no surgical intervention and this is a miracle cure.
Sceptics cannot accept anecdotal information. You could be delusional,lying or severely mistaken for all we know, and the fact that psychic surgery is not possible would indicate one or more of those options would apply directly to you.

[megan]

I suggest too much Pot noodle has addled your brain. I have informed my doctor, but as yet have not had an appoinment with him. My condition is very easy to diagnose & therefore very easy to prove it has been cured.

[bobdezon]

I suggest too much Pot noodle has addled your brain. I have informed my doctor, but as yet have not had an appoinment with him. My condition is very easy to diagnose & therefore very easy to prove it has been cured.

I look forward to perusing your evidence, if it exists.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Hmmm, This is of particular interest to me.

For several years I have suffered from Vertigo style attacks lasting up to 20 minutes. This is not BPPV, and I've had MRIs etc and medical advice is that it is currently unexplained. Which isn't ideal, but it's better than being told it is due to an underlying serious medical condition.

I have recently also started experiencing the classic symptoms of BPPV - short bouts of dizziness in line with the causes of BPPV.

As I've been to see leading ENT people as well, they have said that a neck injury could cause vertigo, however they made that comment after BPPV had been discounted.

So, I do concur that much of your back story does make sense, other than the part about spine/neck issues causing BPPV - I simply don't know if that is the case.

How do you think Gary managed to dissolve your crystals? Why would only the displaced crystals dissolve, and not the crystals in the utricle? (which is were they are supposed to be).