Reply With QuoteOh blimey, I don't know. The faeries magic it away? Might as well be....
If it is surgery then what happens to the tumour? Is conservation of matter suspended too?Originally Posted by seren
Oh blimey, I don't know. The faeries magic it away? Might as well be....
Well, strictly speaking, psychic surgery is a claim of psychokinesis - the ability to affect a physical system by non-physical means.
Even where (faked) physical manipulation is used to remove tumours (chicken liver that was hidden in a false thumb tip) it's the 'psychic' element that is meant to do the healing (analogous to how Geller bends spoons with the power of his mind but physically holds them).
The reality, of course, is that psychic ability isn't real and no surgery takes place. So, psychic surgery is the profession of selling false hope to vulnerable people: one of the most disgusting ways of making money there is.
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Spiritualsurgeon,why do you consider 2012 to be a significant date compared to, say,2009?If it's not the Apocalypse,then what exactly are you expecting to happen?What are YOU going to say on January 2013 is more the question!!
Who mentioned worries of 2012?
Who said the world would end?
I AM in the process of Research by Scientists.
I'd also be very interested in knowing the type of research that you are currently involved in ,and the establishment/personnel involved.
It's "the Ascension" mate!
From my little booklet....page 11
"As we approach the Ascension in 2012, the angels are helping us to keep aligned with the new energies they are cascading upon us in order to raise our vibrations for the cosmic moment where time will stand still and we will have a unique opportunity during the entire history of mankind to reach enlightenment."
Simple really.
Silly Me!How could I have forgotten such a cosmic event?I'll pencil it in my diary,but to be honest what with Armageddon,the Rapture and the Twilight of the Bymbles all scheduled for that week ,I may have to give it a miss...It's "the Ascension" mate!...
we will have a unique opportunity during the entire history of mankind to reach enlightenment."
Simple really.
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I'm lost - what do Angels, essentially a Jew/christian/islam type of fabrication, have to do with the Mayans, who predate all that nonsense by a long way, and were quite partial to the odd human sacrifice.It's "the Ascension" mate!
From my little booklet....page 11
"As we approach the Ascension in 2012, the angels are helping us to keep aligned with the new energies they are cascading upon us in order to raise our vibrations for the cosmic moment where time will stand still and we will have a unique opportunity during the entire history of mankind to reach enlightenment."
Simple really.
[quote=seren;28083]Don't get me wrong, I think what he's doing is dangerous. But I think the barrage of questions and accusations will just make people defensive, and then make them run away. Better to give someone enough rope to hang themselves, no? A bit of polite questioning draws out enough inconsistencies to highlight the daftness of an idea, but we tend to run to pages of separate questions and different ideas- Gary's replies illustrate this- he's talking to five people at once! I wouldn't be able to sustain that kind of conversation very long. Also, the more questions posted, the easier it is for certain tricky questions or interesting themes to be "accidentally" passed over and forgotten.
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Seren, I do understand what you are saying, but people like Gary know they are fraudulent. The point at which you start earning money from these 'abilities' and running workshops is when you are far past any innocent delusion.
Sometimes it might seem they get a hard time here, but to be honest I think they are so used to pulling the wool over people's eyes, that they come on and think they can probably get away with it here as well.
He maybe young, but he is well aware of what he is doing, and I just hope no one dies or suffers a reduced quality of life due to believing in what he is doing and not seeking the correct medical help.
I know I said I didn't want to post here again but I want to make it perfectly clear to everyone especially farsideofthemoon that I fully 100% believe in what I do and that I am not out in anyway what so ever to mislead or rip people off. If I wanted to do that I would charge £100 for Psychic Surgery people would pay it. I charge what I see as fit to live on in the London area (if you went for a massage or facial you wuld be paying around £40 if you went to see a hypnotherapist you can be paying around £135 for an hour. If you go for medical treatment privately you can pay thousands of pounds.) I have seen cleints who have spent tens of thousands trying to get better the conventional way yet when they try the alternative way such as coming to see me they get better and yes we may not of put them through every medical test before and after but as far as I'm concerned if their symptoms go after years of trying the medical route withut success or after being told by medical science that there is nothing more that can be done for them then that probelm has been cured by Psychic Surgery or whatever alternative method they tried just before their problem went. Back on the issue of money I am not aimming to put people out of pocket in any way shape or form and I also make it very clear in every talk and demonstration that I do that if money is an issue then there is no charge whatsoever for Psychic Surgery or any of my work.
Most of my work is word of mouth. People have come after a friend has seen results and recomended me. Because of this we have a waiting list. For the person who mentioned about seeing problems that would heal on their own. If you call my phone it mentioned that we are quite booked up and are currently only taking those who have serious problems as I don't think those who are really suffering should have to wait 2-4 months to be seen (also some clients physically can't wait 2-4 months) people who fall into these catagories (sorry I can't spell for the life of me) generally don't have problems that just disappear naturally.
I have said before I have nothing to hide. I have told everyone of my cleints today (before treating them) that I have been placed on www.badPsychics.com and that their are people out there trying to disprove me so that they are fully in the picture before I treat them. I will also shortly put on my site that badpsychics.com think I'm a fraud to again make everyone clear that I have nothing to hide and fully believe in the work I and others do. (Not everyone because I do believe there are a lot of cons out there).
If people have any questions I am happy to answer them and I am fully welcome to listen to your views and statements just please don't bombard me with loads of questions at once and in cases where there is evidence of which I know of I will try my bet to provide it (however I don't have all the time in the world to go looking for it) so I may have to point you in the right direction some times
Love and Light Always
Gary Mannion
P.S Thanks for the heads up on the typo I'll make sure in future to whoever advertises me that they spell invasive with an I
How do you do the means testing, as a matter of interest?
They are ill, and this does not make taking their money any less horrible. You make yourself out to be some noble guy by saying if they can't pay they don't have to. But that is pressure to pay, you see. Guilt. You run a business, you see.
I imagine you have to gain their trust and bring them past the doubts that they have about your practice. What better way to pull the wool over their eyes than to address their doubts along with your enemies, by saying something like "There are disbelievers out there. These people don't believe me! Do you believe me, ill person that is desperate... Do you want me to heal you?"
It's just further into the practice of deceit. Or possibly self-deceit.
The only reason you are coming back to post is precisely because this is your business and you are trying to protect your reputation.
You can't answer questions, you've already shown on this thread that your answers are completely wrong and lacking in any logical or scientific basis.
As mentioned above, you are trying to make out those nasty skeptics are doing this just because they don't like you.
You are still very careful not make explicit claims, aren't you? All you seem to claim is that you believe in what you do, as if that makes it 'all right'.
I think you've also missed the point - people are not trying to disprove you, they have asked you to prove yourself.
'Love and Light' - you know your target market.
Pass the sick bag please....
I never pressure anyone into pay!
and I am not trying to deieve anyone. Hence why I want to make them perfectly aware that there are people out their that don't believe in Psychic Surgery. I know it works and if they want me to treat them I will with them knowing full well they are trying something that a lot of people don't believe in. However a lot of people who see me knows it exists either because they have had results or because they have been recomended by a friend that has had results.
For those who believe science knows it all can you tell me why a bee flies?
Didn't science once thing the Earth was flat?
Most of the technolagy we have now, didn't sciene laugh at the idea when it was first mentioned stating it was impossible? Yet we have it not and science fully except it.
There are many things science don't know and there have been many things scince have got wrong.
If you do your research on Psychic Surgery you'll find it's routes date back to the Aboriginies who performed Psychic Surgery on an Ethric level for things like broken bones.
For those who say Psychics are Mediums aren't real. The goverment have used them through out history. During the war e.t.c. The police use Psychics don't they?
Not according to this they don't -
http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=47
Unless your marks have been living in a box since they were born they already know folk don't believe it. So the only purpose in stating this is to make you look like an honest guy. You have nothing whatsoever to lose
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8382For those who believe science knows it all can you tell me why a bee flies?
http://www.jimloy.com/physics/bee.htm
http://www.livescience.com/animals/0...bee_fight.html
yes :)
Nope.Didn't science once thing the Earth was flat?
NopeMost of the technolagy we have now, didn't sciene laugh at the idea when it was first mentioned stating it was impossible? Yet we have it not and science fully except it.
Source?If you do your research on Psychic Surgery you'll find it's routes date back to the Aboriginies who performed Psychic Surgery on an Ethric level for things like broken bones.
Not reallyFor those who say Psychics are Mediums aren't real. The goverment have used them through out history. During the war e.t.c. The police use Psychics don't they?
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