But last week came an astonishing new twist to the Roswell mystery - which casts new light on the incident and raises the possibility that we have, indeed, been visited by aliens.
Lieutenant Walter Haut was the public relations officer at the base in 1947, and was the man who issued the original and subsequent press releases after the crash on the orders of the base commander, Colonel William Blanchard.
Haut died last year, but left a sworn affidavit to be opened only after his death.
Last week, the text was released and asserts that the weather balloon claim was a cover story, and that the real object had been recovered by the military and stored in a hangar. He described seeing not just the craft, but alien bodies.
He wasn't the first Roswell witness to talk about bodies. Local undertaker Glenn Dennis had long claimed that he was contacted by authorities at Roswell shortly after the crash and asked to provide a number of child-sized coffins.
When he arrived at the base, he was apparently told by a nurse (who later disappeared) that a UFO had crashed and that small humanoid extraterrestrials had been recovered. But Haut is the only one of the original participants to claim to have seen alien bodies.
Haut's affidavit talks about a high-level meeting he attended with base commander Col William Blanchard and the Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force, Gen Roger Ramey. Haut states that at this meeting, pieces of wreckage were handed around for participants to touch, with nobody able to identify the material.
He says the press release was issued because locals were already aware of the crash site, but in fact there had been a second crash site, where more debris from the craft had fallen. The plan was that an announcement acknowledging the first site, which had been discovered by a rancher, would divert attention from the second and more important location.
Haut also spoke about a clean-up operation, where for months afterwards military personnel scoured both crash sites searching for all remaining pieces of debris, removing them and erasing all signs that anything unusual had occurred.
This ties in with claims made by locals that debris collected as souvenirs was seized by the military.
Haut then tells how Colonel Blanchard took him to 'Building 84' - one of the hangars at Roswell - and showed him the craft itself. He describes a metallic egg-shaped object around 12-15ft in length and around 6ft wide. He said he saw no windows, wings, tail, landing gear or any other feature.
He saw two bodies on the floor, partially covered by a tarpaulin. They are described in his statement as about 4ft tall, with disproportionately large heads. Towards the end of the affidavit, Haut concludes: "I am convinced that what I personally observed was some kind of craft and its crew from outer space."
What's particularly interesting about Walter Haut is that in the many interviews he gave before his death, he played down his role and made no such claims. Had he been seeking publicity, he would surely have spoken about the craft and the bodies.
Did he fear ridicule, or was the affidavit a sort of deathbed confession from someone who had been part of a cover-up, but who had stayed loyal to the end?
Another military witness who claimed to know that the Roswell incident involved the crash of an alien spacecraft is Colonel Philip J. Corso, a former Pentagon official who claimed his job was to pass technology from the craft recovered at Roswell to American companies.
He claims that discoveries such as Kevlar body armour, stealth technology, night vision goggles, lasers and the integrated circuit chip all have their roots in alien technology from the Roswell crash.
Corso died of a heart attack shortly after making these claims, prompting a fresh round of conspiracy theories.
As bizarre as Corso's story sounds, it has support from a number of unlikely sources, including former Canadian Minister of Defence Paul Hellyer, who spoke out recently to say that he'd checked the story with a senior figure in the U.S. military who confirmed it was true.
The U.S. government came under huge pressure on Roswell in the Nineties. In July 1994, in response to an inquiry from the General Accounting Office, the Office of the Secretary of the Air Force published a report, The Roswell Report: Fact vs. Fiction in the New Mexico Desert.
The report concluded that the Roswell incident had been attributable to something called Project Mogul, a top secret project using high-altitude balloons to carry sensor equipment into the upper atmosphere, listening for evidence of Soviet nuclear tests.
The statements concerning a crashed weather balloon had been a cover story, they admitted, but not to hide the truth about extraterrestrials.
A second U.S. Air Force report, The Roswell Report: Case Closed, was published in 1997 and focused on allegations that alien bodies were recovered.
It concluded that any claims that weren't entirely fraudulent were generated by people having seen crash test dummies that were dropped from balloons from high altitude as part of Project High Dive - a study aimed at developing safe procedures for pilots or astronauts having to jump from extreme altitudes.
These tests ran from 1954 to 1959 in New Mexico, and the U.S. government suggested that sightings of these dummies might have been the root of stories about humanoid aliens, with people mistaking the dates after so many years, and erroneously linking what they'd seen with the 1947 story of a UFO crash.
Sceptics, of course, will dismiss the testimony left by Haut. After all, fascinating though it is, it's just a story. There's no proof. But if nothing else, this latest revelation shows that, 60 years on, this mystery endures.
Sorry didnt realise it was as big as that, LOL
I find this quite fascinating.
I dont believe for one moment that aliens have landed/visited us, IMO I think there would be more conclusive proof.
But what i do find interesting is the fact that this man Haut did a sworn affidavit only to be opened on his death.
Is it a cunning ploy to keep people talking about Roswell???
I don't think so - there's enough stuff happenning for UFO fans without Roswell - see but it's an hour long! If you have the patience to watch.......Originally Posted by blubird
Sorry didnt realise it was as big as that, LOL
I find this quite fascinating.
I dont believe for one moment that aliens have landed/visited us, IMO I think there would be more conclusive proof.
Is it a cunning ploy to keep people talking about Roswell???
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It looked even longer in the Daily Wail.Sorry didnt realise it was as big as that, LOL
Fascinating. A brief piece of research shows that there should also be a taped interview with Wendy Connors to be released after Walter's death.
yeah i snipped it!
The Dan Ackroyd video makes me wonder if skeptics can simply dismiss this kind of stuff? He asks whether we should still be arguing about the existence of UFO's, or put our energy into investigating what and who they are. This recording is 1hr 21min long. I thought it worth watching - whatever your views are!
"Hollywood star Dan Aykroyd, who is a believer in the existence and government cover-up of alien life-forms, hosts this look into the phenomenon of UFO sightings. Akroyd shares his personal experiences in this field and also discusses recent findings with author and UFOlogist David Sereda. DAN AYKROYD UNPLUGGED ON UFOS features UFO footage as well as testimonial material from Astronaut Gordon Cooper and others, including former president Ronald Reagan."
I was wondering why this Roswell thread was moved into the “Paranormal” section – so I looked up “Paranormal” on Wicki….
“Paranormal is an umbrella term used to describe a wide variety of reported anomalous phenomena. According to the Journal of Parapsychology, the term paranormal describes "any phenomenon that in one or more respects exceeds the limits of what is deemed physically possible according to current scientific assumptions." For this reason, the scientific community often avoids research on the paranormal, believing that it may not conform to the standards required by the scientific method.”
Mmmm
The first video link I posted had a tiny section on “invisibility” offered by Japanese technology - how is this done?
The second video made me wonder why UFO’s are not taken seriously?
This third one (long movie with irritating music) gives a possible explanation of why we have been trained to ridicule and dismiss UFO's – and is quite sinister in its implications……The greatest story ever denied.
I know there is some conspiracy about UFO’s because I lived in South Africa in 1969 when there was no television. South Africa and some Australia areas heard the moon mission live on the radio. I listened along with my co-workers and heard Armstrong report that Apollo 11 was being escorted by several “craft”. We all got very excited! The repeat broadcasts had that bit “removed”. It took me 37 years to confirm to myself that I had not hallucinated what I heard when I discovered a transcript of the segment that had been censored. After that, what the world saw or heard was not quite “live”.
So hey, I’m a believer…
That's a stupid position. In order to investigate "what or who they are", you would need some evidence on which to base your investigation -- which would in itself already answer the question of whether they exist. You can't prove what something is if you can't first prove that it exists in the first place.
Strictly speaking of course, UFOs do exist. Not every flying object seen by a human has been identified, and therefore there must remain some Unidentified Flying Objects.
So you are claiming that there is no other possible explanation for the events you describe, other than a grand conspiracy?
I think you might have wanted to use the word "believe" or "suspect" instead of "know" in that first sentence.
No - I don't say "I believe" if I know! I know I am married to my husband for instance - it would be rediculous to say I "believe" or "suspect" I am!!!! I know in this instance that the radio broadcast was censored. Period.
It is exactly this attitude that is not appropriate to have anymore! There is tons of evidence. And there is probably real hard physical evidence but it is not being “shared”.
Did you watch any of those movies I posted? Really?
What you "know" is that the broadcast you heard the second time did not correspond to the first. If this is your definition of "censored", then fine (I would call it "edited" myself however).
What you do not "know" is that there is a government conspiracy to cover up the existence of UFOs, unless you have some other evidence which you haven't mentioned.
Like what? Anecdotal accounts don't mean anything; even if they are all true and honest, they don't provide enough information to investigate "what UFO's are", and almost certainly don't all refer to the same phenomenon in the first place.
For what it's worth, I consider it highly likely that the world's governments have secret projects involving aircraft, some of which may correspond with UFO sightings. The "aliens are visiting us" conjecture is pure crank nonsense though.
No, I don't like video as a delivery format for information because it is too time-consuming, bandwidth-hogging and generally used more as a vehicle for propaganda and opinion than useful fact.Did you watch any of those movies I posted? Really?
Point me to a proper scientific paper on the other hand...
What is the difference??? - you "play with words!"
No - I don't - but I would think on the record of history, that this would be highly likely!
That is the problem with this kind of thinking! And a weakness. And yes, some "order" should be made from it. There are different kinds of NDE's for example and they are catalogued in proper studies.
Well, I think you are right. But this is not "pure crank nonsense" and it is THAT arrogance which gets no one anywhere!
You have to move with the times!
Well I WISH I could - there SHOULD be one.....who would ever fund such a thing?Point me to a proper scientific paper on the other hand...
It is "brainwashed" into society to "redicule" UFO's as "pure crank nonsense".......
Mmmm
There are many reasons why material might be edited; "censored" implies some kind of strong-arming from authority. A changed broadcast has clearly been edited, but you would need further evidence to prove that it was censored.
That is the problem with this kind of thinking! And a weakness. And yes, some "order" should be made from it.
What is the "problem" with this kind of thinking, and what do you propose as a solution? Assembling a list of random UFO anecdotes might be an interesting research project for the next series of the X-Files, but it doesn't produce conclusive evidence of anything.
If assuming that random sightings in the sky are evidence of alien activity is not crankery, I don't know what is.But this is not "pure crank nonsense" and it is THAT arrogance which gets no one anywhere!
You have to move with the times!
Nothing has changed; audiovisual media has been used as a tool of propaganda since its inception. It certainly has its place, but I'm not sitting through an hour-long online movie to hear some material which could probably be distilled into half a side of A4.
Brainwashed into skepticism -- now that's cute.It is "brainwashed" into society to "redicule" UFO's as "pure crank nonsense".......
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