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newatheist
2nd February 2010, 10:31 AM
http://www.politicalcompass.org/test
Thought this would be a bit of fun, but I can't really say how accurate it is.
Try it and let us all knowO0
Edit: I'm left libertarian. Some famous people who are like me here (http://www.politicalcompass.org/certificate.php?ec=-4.12&soc=-5.18).
Croydon Bob
2nd February 2010, 11:36 AM
I did one of these years ago. This one has updated questions.
As previously, and as I would expect, I come out Libertarian Left. This time I was almost as far left as is possible to go (-9.62), which I don't think is correct. More radical than Gandhi? I'd like to believe so but it isn't true.
Legaleagle
2nd February 2010, 11:50 AM
I hit the bullseye, almost bang on the middle so I'm... nothing... really:'(
skbuncks
2nd February 2010, 12:04 PM
skbuncks political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77
skb
newatheist
2nd February 2010, 01:36 PM
I forgot to save my result (as usual) but fall more or less in the middle of left libertarian.
Disguised bump.
chaggle
2nd February 2010, 03:53 PM
Economic Left/Right: -0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79
I'm not quite sure what it means though:undecided:
There should be a "Don't Care" or "No Opinion" answer for each question
DrS
2nd February 2010, 04:11 PM
I'm a Libertarian Left as well.
Economic Left/Right : -6-88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49
The dot was slightly below and left of the centre of the lower left box.
Admin
2nd February 2010, 04:35 PM
Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05
Another libertarian/left - I'm sensing a pattern!
dalriada
2nd February 2010, 04:57 PM
Another left libertarian here too- tho' nice to be in the same quadrant on the graph as Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama (can I have my Nobel Peace Price now please..?)
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13
Nasib
2nd February 2010, 07:22 PM
For what it's worth, I seem to fit into the 'sensed pattern'
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
chaggle
2nd February 2010, 08:03 PM
We're all more-or-less the same. Maybe it's not a very good survey.:huh:
ZERO
2nd February 2010, 09:10 PM
My result was slightly to the Authoritarian Left. The Left bit does not surprise me but authoritarian..? :huh:
Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21
Pebble
2nd February 2010, 10:19 PM
In pattern
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69
Too many questions where a discursive answer rather than 4 point scale required.
polomint38
2nd February 2010, 11:32 PM
Left/Libertarian, no surprise there.
Economic Left/Right: -9.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10
asthmatic camel
3rd February 2010, 08:39 AM
About right...
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82
Matt
3rd February 2010, 09:16 AM
Leaning in the same direction but not as far.
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90
A touch more authoritarian than the Dalai Llama and slightly more Right wing than Ghandi. Much the same as I was last time I took this and the time before.
Croydon Bob
3rd February 2010, 09:57 AM
Maybe it's not a very good survey.:huh:
It is bound to have a bias, it's just a question of how big.
I recall that during the 2000 US Prez Election there was a similar questionaire that supposedly told you which party you should vote for. Most people came out as "Green" rather than Republican or Democrat because the idea was to get people to vote for Ralph Nader, not to actually help inform people. I don't think that this one is as biased, but I'd be interested to know what scores someone gets who is a self-identified capitalist, Tory activist or somesuch.
Legaleagle
3rd February 2010, 11:52 AM
These survey results just go to prove something I have long suspected... UK Skeptics is a front for International Communism!>:D
I think I would define my own politics as Conservative, perhaps with a slightly more liberal stance on social issues. As I said, my score was bang on the middle. I think you'd have to be really right wing to get into the right hand quadrants.
asthmatic camel
3rd February 2010, 01:27 PM
It looks as though the results are skewed by taking American political attitudes as the norm. By UK standards I'm far more right-wing than the results would suggest.
The region specific (http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright) section for the UK is interesting.
Croydon Bob
3rd February 2010, 01:38 PM
These survey results just go to prove something I have long suspected... UK Skeptics is a front for International Communism!
You couldn't be more wrong comrade. Now report to the gulag for reconditioning...
Legaleagle
3rd February 2010, 02:36 PM
You couldn't be more wrong comrade. Now report to the gulag for reconditioning...
I realise the error of my former ways and acknowledge the genius of Comrade Jackson. I denounce the international reactionary capitalist-woo conspiracy. I renounce my former bourgois intellectual pretentions and recognise the Marxist-Leninst dialectic as the only true path. ...Is this good enough?.. pass the turnip soup, comrade.
chaggle
3rd February 2010, 02:48 PM
These survey results just go to prove something I have long suspected... UK Skeptics is a front for International Communism!>:D
I think I would define my own politics as Conservative, perhaps with a slightly more liberal stance on social issues. As I said, my score was bang on the middle. I think you'd have to be really right wing to get into the right hand quadrants.
It looks as though the results are skewed by taking American political attitudes as the norm. By UK standards I'm far more right-wing than the results would suggest.
The region specific (http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright) section for the UK is interesting.
I have never voted anything but Conservative but then I haven't voted for more than ten years - I don't know what I would vote now. I agree that you would have to be pretty damn Fascist to be anywhere other than to the left of this survey.
I always thought that I was a dyed in the wool Tory but since Saint Maggie disposed of Old Labour (thereby removing my need to vote for her) and created New Labour in her image I've realised that I'm actually a floater.
All Skeptics should be floating voters anyway, shouldn't they?
Harryprice
3rd February 2010, 03:11 PM
All Skeptics should be floating voters anyway, shouldn't they?
I always oppose the government, whoever happens to be in power. Is that floating enough?
Matt
3rd February 2010, 03:35 PM
All Skeptics should be floating voters anyway, shouldn't they?
I'm sure you're kidding but Many a good question asked in jest.
Perhaps we should reset to this position at the begining of the campaign then examine the manifestos debates and ancilary evidence presented rather through the filter of critical thinking rather than the narrow eyes of pre-existing predjudice. One way of approaching this might be to have someone strip policy statements from party labels and see which you find most appealing whislt blind to their origin.
Of course there's nothing against forming an opinion after applying critical thinking to an issue. The whole exercise would be rather pointless otherwise.
Croydon Bob
3rd February 2010, 03:43 PM
I always oppose the government, whoever happens to be in power. Is that floating enough?
I once had a strange conversation with a civil servant who always voted for the Govt that was in power, on the grounds that you have to be loyal to them. I pointed out that if every state employee did that then they'd probably stay in power for ever and he expressed great sorrow at the fact that his colleagues weren't as loyal as he was. But he saw no problem whatsoever with then switching to a different party if they became the new Govt. I doubt that even the election of the Greens or BNP would have changed his position.
chaggle
3rd February 2010, 07:44 PM
I'm sure you're kidding but Many a good question asked in jest.
Perhaps we should reset to this position at the begining of the campaign then examine the manifestos debates and ancilary evidence presented rather through the filter of critical thinking rather than the narrow eyes of pre-existing predjudice. One way of approaching this might be to have someone strip policy statements from party labels and see which you find most appealing whislt blind to their origin.
Of course there's nothing against forming an opinion after applying critical thinking to an issue. The whole exercise would be rather pointless otherwise.
Don't know why you thought I was kidding Matt. I can't imagine how a skeptic should properly proceed other than how you have described.
Floppit
4th February 2010, 06:52 AM
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64
I held almost the exact same spot as the Dalia Lama! It was good of him to complete the questionnaire and I can't help but wonder if he posted his results somewhere (<- A joke!).
Floppit
4th February 2010, 06:58 AM
Anyone fancy sneaking onto a god botherer forum, a CAM forum and a psychic forum to compare results?
Just post the thing and cross fingers it has wings (errrr... not crossed fingers, not real wings - GAH! Almost blew my cover!).
Tony Williams
4th February 2010, 08:19 AM
Libertarian left again - but closer to the centre of the compass than the edge.
I'm a bit surprised - I expected to be bang in the middle.
Matt
4th February 2010, 08:40 AM
It is bound to have a bias, it's just a question of how big.
I recall that during the 2000 US Prez Election there was a similar questionaire that supposedly told you which party you should vote for. Most people came out as "Green" rather than Republican or Democrat because the idea was to get people to vote for Ralph Nader, not to actually help inform people. I don't think that this one is as biased, but I'd be interested to know what scores someone gets who is a self-identified capitalist, Tory activist or somesuch.
Well I just tried to give as right wing and authoratarian answers as I could and got
Economic Left/Right: 9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.31
Sopme of the questions seemed to be forcing a choice between Right Wing and Authoritatian.
Croydon Bob
4th February 2010, 09:20 AM
Well I just tried to give as right wing and authoratarian answers as I could and got
Economic Left/Right: 9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.31
Sopme of the questions seemed to be forcing a choice between Right Wing and Authoritatian.
Rather than trying to be right wing I just went for the answers that seemed most stupid and wrong to me and managed to get Economic: 10.00; Social: 9.03.
Can anyone get 10 for Social Libertarian/Authoritarian?
chaggle
2nd May 2010, 10:21 AM
I'm sure you're kidding but Many a good question asked in jest.
Perhaps we should reset to this position at the begining of the campaign then examine the manifestos debates and ancilary evidence presented rather through the filter of critical thinking rather than the narrow eyes of pre-existing predjudice. One way of approaching this might be to have someone strip policy statements from party labels and see which you find most appealing whislt blind to their origin.
Of course there's nothing against forming an opinion after applying critical thinking to an issue. The whole exercise would be rather pointless otherwise.
Someone's listening to you.
This Survey (http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/) does exactly that.
I've not done it yet, I will in a minute. Apparently the results can be very surprising.
chaggle
2nd May 2010, 10:52 AM
OK I've done it - not easy.
50% Lib Dem
25% Green
25% Labour - OMG I don't believe that:shocked:
DrS
2nd May 2010, 10:58 AM
Spent ten minutes doing the thing and then it came up with a message saying "sorry, site is down for maintenance". >:-)
brianp
2nd May 2010, 11:00 AM
Someone's listening to you.
This Survey (http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/) does exactly that.
I've not done it yet, I will in a minute. Apparently the results can be very surprising.
Surprising - it's bloody infuriating! I spent ages going through the survey selecting policy groups etc in all the areas listed and then I entered my postcode and pressed the Submit button. Then I waited ............................. and waited .......................... and waited for a full seven minutes before getting:
"Oops! An error has occurred. Sorry, something's gone wrong! It's likely that we are performing maintenance so please try again in a while or head over to our home page (http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/) and you might be able to find your way again."
A complete waste of 30 minutes.
chaggle
2nd May 2010, 11:24 AM
Well it's not my fault:'(
DrS
2nd May 2010, 11:33 AM
There there, I'm sure it isn't! ;D
To be fair, I've just clicked on the link again and it now says on the first page that the site is down, so they must have started it while Brianp and I were in the middle of our surveys. ::)
polomint38
2nd May 2010, 12:01 PM
Spent ten minutes doing the thing and then it came up with a message saying "sorry, site is down for maintenance". >:-)
Surprising - it's bloody infuriating! I spent ages going through the survey selecting policy groups etc in all the areas listed and then I entered my postcode and pressed the Submit button. Then I waited ............................. and waited .......................... and waited for a full seven minutes before getting:
"Oops! An error has occurred. Sorry, something's gone wrong! It's likely that we are performing maintenance so please try again in a while or head over to our home page (http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/) and you might be able to find your way again."
A complete waste of 30 minutes.
Flip a coin,it is scientific as these surveys. ;D:cheesy:>:-):undecided:
smudge
2nd May 2010, 12:35 PM
I come put about where I'd expect...
Economic left/right; -9.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian; -7.33
Had no problems with the site.
Fun stuff!
chaggle
3rd May 2010, 11:41 AM
Smudge - that result looks like it's from:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/test
Have you tried:
http://voteforpolicies.org.uk
That's the one that's been falling over. I don't know if anyone else has tried it recently
newatheist
3rd May 2010, 11:51 AM
Someone's listening to you.
This Survey (http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/) does exactly that.
I've not done it yet, I will in a minute. Apparently the results can be very surprising.
I don't think this is gonna work too well, I can already tell some of the policies are from the conservatives i.e devolving power.
newatheist
3rd May 2010, 12:29 PM
My results: http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/survey/results/4BDEC02904ECB
50% labour
25% lib dem
25% ahem... BNP
should be 75% labour
Well, I accidentally selected their policies on democracy instead of labour. And it seems I was wrong in my last post. LOL.
Edit: I didn't pick all the categories to save time so I don't think its really correct about me.
chaggle
3rd May 2010, 02:28 PM
How the B****Y H**L did you manage to pick a BNP set? Which policy set was it - not immigration I'll bet!
I thought that the BNP and UKIP policies were pretty obvious - but then I suppose I didn't do all the categories either.
Of course the policy manifestos are to a certain extent fantasy - they don't really mean what they say - half the policies would be dumped if the party ever got in.
ETA - OK I see it was Democracy.
smudge
3rd May 2010, 04:46 PM
Smudge - that result looks like it's from:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/test
Have you tried:
http://voteforpolicies.org.uk
That's the one that's been falling over. I don't know if anyone else has tried it recently
Thanks Chaggle.
Political Compass I liked, the other I just tried. It got stuck when calculating my result! Was it something I said?! :cheesy:
Matt
4th May 2010, 11:41 AM
Well the vote for policies site appears to be up and running. I felt a strong desire to pick a first and second choice on many questions.
Wasn't too surprised to get a rainbow in my results. Nor with where my leanings seemed to be. However there was a shock at the shallow end.
33.3% Lib Dem
22.2% Green
22.2% Conservative
11.1% Labour
11.1% UKIP
It was on welfare that I blindly plumped for the UKIP policy set. Now I feel kinda dirty.
DrS
4th May 2010, 01:11 PM
Not too surprised ...
Lib Dem 44.44%
Labour & Green 22.22%
UKIP 11.11%
I feel kinda dirty too with the UKIP vote, but that was on health, and I reckon I was swayed by the "bring back Matron" rhetoric! ::)
Mr.Smoketoomuch
4th May 2010, 01:38 PM
I got: Economic Left/Right: -5.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.85
Guess that makes me a pinko.
newatheist
5th May 2010, 10:46 PM
How the B****Y H**L did you manage to pick a BNP set? Which policy set was it - not immigration I'll bet!
I thought that the BNP and UKIP policies were pretty obvious - but then I suppose I didn't do all the categories either.
Of course the policy manifestos are to a certain extent fantasy - they don't really mean what they say - half the policies would be dumped if the party ever got in.
ETA - OK I see it was Democracy.
It was an accident. I must've clicked on it when i tried to see all of their policies.
And... at first I dismissed it as a joke but its real: "cameron is our only hope (http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/May/Week1/15626204.jpg)"
Drop Bear
6th May 2010, 01:22 AM
I come out slightly to the left of the Dalai Lhama.Which is probably a bit misleading.
A Skeptic and cynic, I support no ideology and distrust all authority and power structures. By that I mean I trust none implicitly and reject Utopian ideals outright.
I see little similarity between the politics of public perception and real politik.
chaggle
6th May 2010, 06:36 AM
It was an accident. I must've clicked on it when i tried to see all of their policies.
And... at first I dismissed it as a joke but its real: "cameron is our only hope (http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/May/Week1/15626204.jpg)"
When I first saw your link I thought it was the BNP backing him. That would have stuffed him wouldn't it!
My prediction: Cameron with a small working majority - say 20.
chaggle
6th May 2010, 06:47 AM
The Sun has done it before (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_The_Sun_Wot_Won_It) - famously in 1992
the newspaper led a campaign against the Labour Party leader, Neil Kinnock which culminated in the election day headline, "If Kinnock wins today will the last person to leave Britain please turn out the lights". This was due to the fact that Labour had topped the opinion polls for most of the three years leading up to the election and as the election loomed it was looking likely that Britain would have a Labour government with Kinnock as prime minister. Even some Tory MPs acknowledged that The Sun contributed to their election triumph
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/33/It%27s_The_Sun_Wot_Won_It.jpg/220px-It%27s_The_Sun_Wot_Won_It.jpg
smudge
6th May 2010, 08:48 AM
Had another go and got the vote for policies site to work!
Lib Dem 44.44%
Green Party 44.44%
Lab 11.11%
My Political Compass result was
Economic Left/Right -9.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian -7.33
Nothing I'm embarrassed about.... and consistent I guess....!
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