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seanblack60
14th August 2009, 06:18 PM
Hi folks just got myself 1 litre of Hydrogen Peroxide 35% Food Grade and i am going to start the recomended therapy and see what happens. Look it up very interesting to see the results. Has anyone else tried this on here ??
Sean
Mulder
14th August 2009, 06:33 PM
So you're not dyeing your hair then?
http://www.bio.net/bionet/mm/ageing/1991-August/000206.html
NorthernSoul
14th August 2009, 06:38 PM
http://www.badscience.net/2003/05/quack-tales/
Dr James E Johnson MD – because Americans always manage to make doctors sound like soap stars – has had his licence revoked after a string of increasingly bizarre and dangerous attempts to cure what he believed was a yeast infection. He started with garlic but his patient was in a hurry and so he decided to speed things along by administering hydrogen peroxide, a popular pseudoscientific therapy.
On this occasion the hydrogen peroxide was given intravenously, through a peripherally-inserted central catheter into a vein in her arm, travelled all the way up through her armpit and on into her chest where it sat snugly next to her heart. After a few “treatments” her arm became red and painful, and she became dizzy with a headache. Johnson diagnosed a “mini-stroke” and, like a good complementary therapist, initiated intramusucular vitamin C injections. The injection site for these became red and inflamed but instead of using antibiotics which, he told his patient, were “incompatible” with hydgrogen peroxide, he prescribed charcoal poultice compresses. With painful inevitability, things deteriorated further.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide_therapy#Therapeutic_use
bindeweede
14th August 2009, 07:03 PM
This bloke outside Asda told me drinking dilute nitric acid has stopped him getting swine flu. I reckon there could be something in it.O0
Trinoc
14th August 2009, 09:28 PM
I've got some of the "food grade" 35% H2O2. The "food grade" designation means it's suitable for cleaning and sterilising food preparation surfaces.
It does not mean it is safe to drink the bloody stuff!
35% is very strong. Not quite strong enough to make rocket fuel, as far as I know (I might try dripping some onto a rag soaked in white spirit and find out). It is highly corrosive. I got a few drops on my skin and it was instantly bleached. Fortunately if you wash it off quickly only the surface is bleached and that soon rubs off.
If you dilute one part of it with 5 parts of water you will get something similar to the "20 volumes" variety you can get from the chemist for bleaching hair (except that the 20vol stuff can contain a bit of phosphoric acid as preservative -- no problem: there is phosphoric acid in Coca Cola).
If you dilute one part of the 20vol stuff with a further 5 parts of water (or dilute one part of the original with 34 parts of water) you get a 1% solution which is safe to use as a mouthwash and gargle. You could probably swallow it without harm, but it would just decompose in your stomach, giving water and an oxygen burp.
Hydrogen peroxide therapy is nonsense, except as I say as an antiseptic mouthwash (which might also bleach your teeth a bit). Done wrongly starting with something as strong as 35% solution, it is dangerous nonsense.
You have been warned!
Edit: Also consider the following. One of the main thrusts of complementary medicine is the "antioxidant", which is something which removes peroxide radicals because they are harmful. And you are considering drinking (or otherwise introducing into your body) the purest supply of peroxide radicals you can get!
I have a friend (thankfully still alive) who was treated for prostate cancer by a CAM practitioner by being given a bottle of water allegedly containing some hydrogen peroxide and vitamin C (an antioxidant which should neutralise hydrogen peroxide)! I think this may be the same quack who advised him he should eat a high fibre diet (not the low fibre diet the NHS hospital told him to eat) in preparation for surgery which required the intestines to be empty.
MischiefMonkey
14th August 2009, 09:47 PM
35%!!!!
That's toilet cleaner*!!
Fancy a bit of Hydrogen Peroxide therapy myself - a few highlight, maybe completely blond.
(*I know, I know, toilet cleaner is hydrogen chloride. Still very dangerous)
Admin
14th August 2009, 10:44 PM
You could probably swallow it without harm, but it would just decompose in your stomach, giving water and an oxygen burp.
Which would also lead to great difficulty in blowing candles out! ;D
MischiefMonkey
14th August 2009, 10:53 PM
Which would also lead to great difficulty in blowing candles out! ;D
John, in the interests of all the f'ckwits out there who defy science by knowing how to use the internet, please make clear the 1% solution is 'probably' safe to swallow - NOT the 35% spamblack60 is promoting. Which may kill or cause serious harm.
I know, Darwin awards and all that.....but.....some people need protecting from themselves.
Trinoc
14th August 2009, 10:55 PM
35%!!!!
That's toilet cleaner*!!
Fancy a bit of Hydrogen Peroxide therapy myself - a few highlight, maybe completely blond.
(*I know, I know, toilet cleaner is hydrogen chloride. Still very dangerous)
Either way, if our friend drinks it, he/she will go clean round the bend ...
(I think that joke's older than I am.)
MischiefMonkey
14th August 2009, 11:01 PM
Either way, if our friend drinks it, he/she will go clean round the bend ...
(I think that joke's older than I am.)
Lol.
Some people can be a bit pedantic so I thought I'd qualify my post so I don't look a total simpleton.
You seem to know your hydrogen peroxide - some of my American friends use it an antiseptic wound cleaner - could that be the 1% solution to? Why not use Hibiscrub? And what is in Hibiscrub? Why is it pink?
Trinoc
14th August 2009, 11:19 PM
You seem to know your hydrogen peroxide - some of my American friends use it an antiseptic wound cleaner - could that be the 1% solution to? Why not use Hibiscrub? And what is in Hibiscrub? Why is it pink?
Hydrogen peroxide is basically just an oxidising agent. I suppose it is about the "cleanest" oxidising agent you can get (except maybe oxygen itself), since once it's released its oxygen all you have left is water. I'm not sure what concentration you would use for disinfecting hands, but I would guess somewhere in the 1-3% range (3% = 10 volumes in chemist designation). I don't know how it compares to something like Hibiscrub, but perhaps with regular use you might get Asian and Afro-Caribbean nurses complaining that their hands have turned white!
I remember Hibiscrub mentioned as the stuff the nurses had to wash with every time they left the MRSA ward I was in. I thought of Hibiscus the plant, and wondered whether this was a rare example of a herbal preparation making it into hospital use ... but apparently it's just a brand name for Chlorhexidine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorhexidine).
MischiefMonkey
14th August 2009, 11:30 PM
Thanks Trinoc:smiley:
Doesn't explain why it is pink though;D
Croydon Bob
15th August 2009, 09:18 AM
Doesn't explain why it is pink though;D
Because God made it that way?
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