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Mulder
21st October 2008, 10:04 AM
Brits were, until recently, notoriously loath to complain. They'd bore their mates in the pub with everything that went wrong with their holiday but wouldn't dream of telling the tour company.

Nowadays, we complain officially a lot more. Like an evolutionary arms race, companies and official bodies have changed tactics too. I have two on-going complaints. In one, I was first offered an irrelevant FAQ which showed no one had read the conmplaint. Then I was asked to check something that had no bearing on the case. After doing that, I was then passed to another department who, after a long interval, said it wasn't there responsibility. When I pointed out that it self evidently was, they redefined their responsibilities more narrowly until I had to agree it wasn't. So, I went back to the first department who have yet to reply.

In the other complaint, it took them nearly a week to request additional information that they could have asked for straight away, had anyone read what I'd written. They would, no doubt, say they were snowed under with work and I had to take my turn. This implies either poor management (eg insufficient staff) or lots of people complaining about their lousy service (which is also poor management). Neither reflects terribly well.

The 'management of complaints' (sorry, customer services) is all about getting people so bored or frustrated that they give up. This is where 'learning to complain' has got us! Just as in evolution, you never really get ahead of the opposition.

Matt
21st October 2008, 10:12 AM
I find that a pointless Data Protection Act request helps vent my frustration as I know it will cost them a lot more than the charge they can pass on to me.

skbuncks
22nd October 2008, 10:11 AM
I find that a pointless Data Protection Act request helps vent my frustration as I know it will cost them a lot more than the charge they can pass on to me.

You then get the pleasure of reporting them to the ICO when they inevitably fail to comply within the required 40 days

skb

Dubious Dick
22nd October 2008, 11:10 AM
The science/art? of complaining:

1. Tenacity is the key to success.
2. Keep all records (letters/emails/phone notes)
3. Be polite at all times, however frustrated (probably the toughest of the lot!) Ask for their help in solving a problem.
4. Know your law.
5. Go to the top as soon as possible.

Absolutely right to say that there is an industry of complaint frustration training. Have had a couple of occasions where, when expressing frustration (without swearing!) have been threatened with a hang up. Also, "You are shouting at me so I am going to hang up". I said I wasn't, just raising my voice a little to overcome having bs spouted back at me. Then said, now hold the phone back from your ear and I'll show you what it's like when I shout! Gave me alaugh anyway!

Similar to the politicians who manage to waffle away when not answering questions.

Mulder
22nd October 2008, 12:09 PM
That being polite bit is tricky ... how about being assertive?

Mulder
22nd October 2008, 01:42 PM
I guess "you've got to be f***ing kidding!", which is my usual reaction to the eventual, long-delayed reply to a complaint, is out then ...

Mulder
22nd October 2008, 03:14 PM
What about sarcasm? Please tell me I can use sarcasm. They probably wouldn't even understand it ...

Mongrel
22nd October 2008, 05:15 PM
What about sarcasm? Please tell me I can use sarcasm. They probably wouldn't even understand it ...
Having been on a help desk - we understood it and put you in the 'unofficial' category.

Don't lose your temper, don't get snarky and you'll get a better, quicker result.

Often the people on the end of the phone or reading your letter have zero say in the rules, how they're interpreted and how they're allowed to react.