Graham Dare psychic/medium: Predicts Madeleine McCann will be found...

[Admin]

It seems that we have another highly-gifted psychic/medium/spiritual healer/clairvoyant/member of Mensa/available for parties & hen nights...

Yes, another individual who thinks he has magical powers has made a prediction in the Madeleine McCann case:


Spiritual Healing & Mediumship

Welcome to my web site. [link removed]

Spiritual Healing can help patients for whom conventional medicine is not the answer.

Graham Dare is ranked as the UK's No. 1 medium (see media clips, University Psychology Study), able to use contact with the spirit world to help customers with clairvoyant readings, either by appointment, e-mail, or telephone.

We can supply up to 30 mediums to work at parties/events internationally giving 10 minute sessions to each guest of Healing, Clairvoyance, Tarot, Palm Reading, etc.

Graham Dare has always donated any net profits to charity each year e.g. Marie Curie Cancer Care £1400, National Childens Homes £1400, Croydon Parish Church Roof £4250, and £11850 of others, along with free work for charities fund raising.

Graham sends out about one unsolicited letter a year offering a free reading to avoid a future problem, see Media Clips Testimonials. Examples of those not responded to are Diana Spencer 28/08/97; Sally Ann Bowman 23/06/05, plus numerous celebrities.

Graham was asked by a reporter 13/Jun/07 about Madeleine McCann and said will be found 16/Jun/07 between Shohb, Sinaa, Yemen and Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e."Graham was asked by a reporter 13/Jun/07 about Madeleine McCann and said will be found 16/Jun/07 between Shohb, Sinaa, Yemen and Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e."

Well, it looks like Graham was wrong.

No surprise there of course. What is odd though, is that the coordinates he gives are in the middle of the sea in the Gulf of Aden!

See: http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/default.asp

[vbloke]

why do all psychics rate themselves as "the number 1 psychic/medium/etc"? surely only one of them can be number 1. Maybe we should set up a proper ranking system for them, so they can set their place in line properly. ;D

[Admin]

They do like to refer to themselves using superlatives don't they? Must be an ego thing. ;)

Britain's #1
Britain's most respected
Britain's most sought after
Britain's most accurate
Britain's top
Britain's most egotistical....;D

And they get offended when we don't take them seriously!! ::)

[CalamityKate]

"Britain's most deluded"

"Britain's most publicity-seeking"

"Britain's most prolific collector of sparkly scarves and incense sticks"


Hmm... they don't have quite the same ring to them, do they ;D

[JonDonnis]

Ihate it when they say
"Britains most genuine medium"
Surely you are either genuine or you are not

[vbloke]

Ihate it when they say
"Britains most genuine medium"
Surely you are either genuine or you are not
it reminds me of Animal Farm:

"All psychics are equal, but some are more equal than others."

[Admin]

Things you rarely see:

Big John, a reasonably accurate medium.

Psychic Anne, Britain's 7th most sought after astrologer.

Mystic Mark, as advertised in the local gazette.

Molly the Medium, as recommended by Arthur Jones, Glaswegian cobbler.

[Mojo]

The stuff about Dare giving money to charity reminded me of a headline I saw in the Metro the other day, something along the lines of "MADDY PARASITES PREYED ON VULNERABLE POEPLE". Turned out not to be about psychics but a couple of people pretending to be collecting for a charity. Rather disappointing.

[Admin]

It looks like Graham Dare, Britain's #1 medium, has changed his website.

Perhaps he's removed his prediction or explained why it didn't come true....

No, he's done this:


Spiritual Healing & Mediumship

Welcome to my web site. [link removed]

Spiritual Healing can help patients for whom conventional medicine is not the answer.

Graham Dare is ranked as the UK's No. 1 medium (see media clips, University Psychology Study), able to use contact with the spirit world to help customers with clairvoyant readings, either by appointment, e-mail, or telephone.

We can supply up to 30 mediums to work at parties/events internationally giving 10 minute sessions to each guest of Healing, Clairvoyance, Tarot, Palm Reading, etc.

Graham Dare has always donated any net profits to charity each year e.g. Marie Curie Cancer Care £1400, National Childens Homes £1400, Croydon Parish Church Roof £4250, and £11850 of others, along with free work for charities fund raising.

Graham sends out about one unsolicited letter a year offering a free reading to avoid a future problem, see Media Clips Testimonials. Examples of those not responded to are Diana Spencer 28/08/97; Sally Ann Bowman 23/06/05, plus numerous celebrities.

Graham was asked by a reporter 13/Jun/07 about Madeleine McCann and said will be found 10/Jul/07 between Shohb, Sinaa, Yemen and Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e.Yes, he's changed the date of his prediction from 16th June to 10th July, after the previous one didn't come true!!

That's right. He hasn't made a second prediction to replace the first one, he's simply altered the one he made earlier.

Now it's always possible that two different reporters asked him the same question on the same day and he gave two different answers but...

Isn't it a bit more likely that we've found yet another 'psychic' cheating? ;)


See: http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

When anyone charges the sort of prices that he does, money is their main consideration. I doubt he sees it as cheating, he is trying to both promote and protect his business.

I'll still call it cheating though. O0

Or you could mention deceit, deception, defrauding, disonesty, duplicity, pretence, slyness, trickery, underhandedness etc

[CalamityKate]

Oh I like the "offer a free reading to avoid a future problem" bit!

I shall now start charging people for the same thing...

"Do not go to the zoo on 23rd May. You will be eaten by penguins. That will be £50 please"

Two months later, a testimonial will appear on my website....

"Psychic Kate warned me not to go to the zoo on 23rd May, or else I would be eaten by penguins! So I didn't go! And I wasn't eaten by penguins! Thanks, Psychic Kate!!!!!"

[Jocky]

Two months later, a testimonial will appear on my website....

"Psychic Kate warned me not to go to the zoo on 23rd May, or else I would be eaten by penguins! So I didn't go! And I wasn't eaten by penguins! Thanks, Psychic Kate!!!!!"

Why not go the whole hog and become a medium? Then you could get an even better testimonial:

"Psychic Kate warned me not to go to the zoo on 23rd May, or else I would be eaten by penguins! But I was a closed-minded skeptic so I went anyway! And I was eaten by penguins, and now I'm dead, and I smell of fish! I wish I'd listened to Psychic Kate!!!!!

:cheesy:

[Admin]

Another alteration to the UK's #1 medium's website:


Due to the Dutch newspaper being widely believed on the evening of 13/Jun Graham told a reporter that evening that Madeleine McCann was on a boat Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and would be found 10/Jul/07 in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen.

He must have talked to a lot of reporters on that day!

Still, only 3 days to go before Graham, the UK's #1 medium, changes his prediction - again.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Another alteration to the UK's #1 medium's website:



He must have talked to a lot of reporters on that day!! ;D

Still, only 3 days to go before Graham, the UK's #1 medium, changes his prediction - again.

John, stop picking on Graham, he is only trying to do his job! O0

[Admin]

Well, July 11th and the prediction from Graham Dare, the UK's #1 medium, didn't come true - again!

I wonder what he'll change it to next?

[Mojo]

I see that on the "Spiritual Healing" page he says (emphasis mine):
Conditions that are likley [sic] to be cured by Healing are tiredness, insomnia, heart, addictions, fertility, cysts, cycles, M.E., some cancers, migraine, allergies, injuries, stress, depression, etc.

I suspect that this may be an offence under the Cancer Act 1939.
4.
Prohibition of certain advertisements.
— (1) No person shall take any part in the publication of any advertisement—
(a)
containing an offer to treat any person for cancer, or to prescribe any remedy therefor, or to give any advice in connection with the treatment thereof

[Mojo]

Well, July 11th and the prediction from Graham Dare, the UK's #1 medium, didn't come true - again!

I wonder what he'll change it to next? ;D

Perhaps he'll go for "she was found on the 10th July, but the forces of evil hushed it up".

[Admin]

Graham Dare, the UK's #1 medium, clearly doesn't like being wrong. So he's changed his prediction again!! ;D


Due to the Dutch newspaper being widely believed on the evening of 13/Jun Graham told a reporter that evening that Madeleine McCann was on a boat Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and would be found on a Saturday in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen.

At least he's improving as a prognosticator a little.

To make successful predictions a 'psychic' should not give specific dates and places as they're going to end up being wrong. The trick is to make predictions, and lots of them, do not make them specific (i.e. leave them wide open to interpretation), and leave it to others to others to supply the meaning to them.

Graham Dare, the UK's #1 medium, has changed from giving a specific date to saying "a Saturday" - now he has a 1 in 7 chance of getting the day right. Not really how a psychic should do it but he's learning and heading in the right direction.

It's much better to mention things like: a boat, a car, some letters and numbers, water, a man with a beard, a woman with long hair, etc., and simply say they all 'link in somehow' then others who believe in psychic powers will take what you say and provide their meaning to it all.

That's all there is to it.

[Admin]

The UK's #1 medium has changed his site again! ::)


Graham was asked by a member of the public via the newsshopper.co.uk to find Madeleine McCann, but replied that he would only help the family or a reporter, the NS sent a reporter on the evening of 13/Jun (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct) but Graham went against the flow and told the reporter that she was on a boat Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and would be found on a Saturday in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen.No change to the actual prediction but he's confirmed that he replied to only one reporter.

He seems to be subtly implying that because the report in the Dutch newspaper turned out to be wrong that it somehow adds weight to his claim.

Sorry Graham it doesn't. It just means that they were as wrong as you were.

At least until you kept changing your prediction every time it failed. ;)

[Admin]

Graham Dare, the UK's #1 medium, has changed his website yet again!!! :cheesy:

He's taken the claims he made off the front page but has moved them elsewhere (http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/media_details.asp?MedNo=26).

Does this numbskull not realise that all of the changes he's made will be logged on the internet web archive and will all show up in a few months' time?

We now have this:


posted 14/Jun/07

Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via a investigating reporter, who visited for 2 hours on the evening of 13/Jun (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and he stated that she was on a boat Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and would be found on a Saturday in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen.
Posted 14th June 2007?

Well, I've just downloaded the response headers and they say:
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:41:32 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
Content-Length: 5667
Content-Type: text/html
Cache-Control: private

200 OK


The page has been set up so that the response headers always refresh themselves - i.e. so we can't find out the last time it was uploaded. Graham is doing this the opposite way to how Brian Ladd did his trick. He's renewing the page but forgetting about the images.

The image of Madeleine and the photo of Yemen were uploaded to the server on the 24th July 2007 15:21:32 GMT.

I strongly suspect that that is when the page was created.

UK's #1 medium or a faker? Make your own mind up.....

[tolman]

>>"UK's #1 medium or a faker? Make your own mind up....."

Well, Graham Dare could also be operating under some serious delusions.

Not that that, or being a deliberate fake, would disqualify him from claiming to be the UK's #1 medium, given what the rest are like.

[Emajiza1]

Hi there,

I've been reading things about Graham Dare on this site as I have been planning on going to see him for a clairvoyancy reading (after reading on his website that he is supposed to be a highly gifted clairvoyant). Anyway, went to see him and was really disappointed. I'm not going to spend the next 10 mins slagging him off but I give him 0 out of 10. He was very very vague and I really did think he was making it up and told him this and stopped the session and walked out. For anyone out there, thinking of going to see him for a clairvoyancy reading, I would save your money...really I would. As for his healing...I've no idea if he's good or not but for clairvoyancy, like I said, I really think he was making it up. Anyway, that's all I've got to say, bye for now.



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It seems that we have another highly-gifted psychic/medium/spiritual healer/clairvoyant/member of Mensa/available for parties & hen nights...

Yes, another individual who thinks he has magical powers has made a prediction in the Madeleine McCann case:

"Graham was asked by a reporter 13/Jun/07 about Madeleine McCann and said will be found 16/Jun/07 between Shohb, Sinaa, Yemen and Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e."

Well, it looks like Graham was wrong.

No surprise there of course. What is odd though, is that the coordinates he gives are in the middle of the sea in the Gulf of Aden!

See: http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/default.asp

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Hi there,

I've been reading things about Graham Dare on this site as I have been planning on going to see him for a clairvoyancy reading (after reading on his website that he is supposed to be a highly gifted clairvoyant). Anyway, went to see him and was really disappointed. I'm not going to spend the next 10 mins slagging him off but I give him 0 out of 10. He was very very vague and I really did think he was making it up and told him this and stopped the session and walked out. For anyone out there, thinking of going to see him for a clairvoyancy reading, I would save your money...really I would. As for his healing...I've no idea if he's good or not but for clairvoyancy, like I said, I really think he was making it up. Anyway, that's all I've got to say, bye for now.



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Hi, thanks for the feedback. Comments like this illustrate why skepticism is so important. These fraudulent people have no place in modern society. I'll give you a clue about his healing - it is likely to be worse than his psychic readings to be honest. At least with cold reading you have a chance of getting something right.

Another interesting site to visit is BadPsychics.co.uk, although psychics are part of the forums here, BadPsychics tend to focus purely on their scams.

[bindeweede]

Hi, thanks for the feedback. Comments like this illustrate why skepticism is so important. These fraudulent people have no place in modern society. I'll give you a clue about his healing - it is likely to be worse than his psychic readings to be honest. At least with cold reading you have a chance of getting something right.

Another interesting site to visit is BadPsychics.co.uk, although psychics are part of the forums here, BadPsychics tend to focus purely on their scams.

I would like to add my recommendation re the "BadPsychics" site. But this place is excellent. Also.

[dee]

"Graham was asked by a reporter 13/Jun/07 about Madeleine McCann and said will be found 16/Jun/07 between Shohb, Sinaa, Yemen and Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e."

Well, it looks like Graham was wrong.

No surprise there of course. What is odd though, is that the coordinates he gives are in the middle of the sea in the Gulf of Aden!


He was just having a bad prediction day thats all! :smiley: Either that or she's in a submarine and he's not telling us something that we should know lol

[Admin]

Hi there,

I've been reading things about Graham Dare on this site as I have been planning on going to see him for a clairvoyancy reading (after reading on his website that he is supposed to be a highly gifted clairvoyant). Anyway, went to see him and was really disappointed.

Claims of being 'highly gifted' or the 'UK's #1' etc. are claims they make themselves. They certainly aren't substantiated by anyone else.

We've seen an example of his cheating on here so it's highly doubtful whether he really believes he's a psychic. It's hard to say though as it's quite clear that some of these self-proclaimed psychics suffer from delusions of grandeur.

Anyway, thanks for sharing that experience with us. It's not often that people are prepared to come forward and say they've spent money on a psychic only to have been given an abysmal reading.

[vbloke]

Anyway, thanks for sharing that experience with us. It's not often that people are prepared to come forward and say they've spent money on a psychic only to have been given an abysmal reading.*cough* (http://www.ukskeptics.com/article.php?dir=articles&article=Selfridges_a_psychic_sisters_reading.php)

[Admin]

Well, Britain's #1 medium has changed his site again (http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/media_details.asp?MedNo=26). Still claiming it was posted on 14th June mind you! ::)



Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via a investigative reporter (his notes above), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/Jun (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated that, having been taken by someone who knows Gerry after leaving the unlocked apartment, and falling, in a 4x4 car boot registration FH (not McCanns car), she was then on a boat Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and could now be found in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen.
By way of proof he offers a picture of the reporter's notes:

http://www.ukskeptics.com/graphics/GD1-9x2.jpg

Obviously they're so clear that they can't be refuted.

There's also no mention of who this reporter is or which publication he works for.

Then again, I don't think it really matters - we all know where Graham Dare is coming from. ;)

[td17_uk]

Well, Britain's #1 medium has changed his site again (http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/media_details.asp?MedNo=26). Still claiming it was posted on 14th June mind you! ::)

By way of proof he offers a picture of the reporter's notes:

http://www.ukskeptics.com/graphics/GD1-9x2.jpg

Obviously they're so clear that they can't be refuted.

There's also no mention of who this reporter is or which publication he works for.

Then again, I don't think it really matters - we all know where Graham Dare is coming from. ;)


well would you look at that a reporter who doesnt write in shorthand

[filippo lippi]

It's only gone and changed again!



Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via a investigative reporter (Mark Chandler's notes above for extra detail ie maiden name of abductor), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/Jun (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated: 24/Apr/07 3pm the train of events started; then several days later she was taken from her parents by 'Jen' (after Madeleine had left the unlocked apartment carrying a toy duck wearing a red/orange coat, and falling) in a 4x4 car boot registration FH [not McCanns' car] for 3 hours and 2 minutes, averaging 40mph, ie 120 miles, to a work place for 2-3 days, then she was then on a boat via Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and will now be found in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

What a complete moron.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

It seems that Graham has very little knowledge of Yemen or the Middle East! ;D

If a small blonde haired Caucasian female child was seen roaming the streets with locals, immediately they would be brought in for questioning. Tourism does not exist, and the laws are very strict in Yemen. There are enough European expatriates living there who would immediately bring it to the authorities attention. Being such an intense international search for Madeleine, these Yemeni Police would love the positive attention of being the ones who found Madeleine, or were the reason for the arrests of the kidnappers!! The treacherous extremely high narrow mountain passes where so many accidents occur, is the only route from Hodeida to Sanaa where the only airport exists. Yemen is full of different militants, they're known to kidnap white foreigners, mainly men, hold them for ransom and steal their 4x4's, so I doubt very much that anyone would take Madeleine to such a country. Its not a developed country and the people are very poor.
Even the ports on the Red Sea as well as the Gulf of Aden and Arabian Sea area, are all policed 24/7. Graham and all the other so called psychics and mediums should just really crawl back into the woodwork, they are just one big bunch of liars. >:-) It's about time something seriously is done to discourage and to damage the reputations of these so called soothe-sayers, aka fraudsters and money grabbers!!!!!

[Admin]

It seems that Graham has very little knowledge of Yemen or the Middle East!

That's no problem, he can always change his prediction to somewhere else. I mean, no-one will notice what he's doing now, will they?

[filippo lippi]

Just some subtle formatting changes this time -


Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via an investigative reporter (Mark Chandler's notes above for extra detail ie maiden name of abductor), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/Jun (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated: 24/04/07 3pm the train of events started; then 03/05/07 9pm she was taken from her parents (by 'Jen' after Madeleine had left the unlocked apartment carrying a toy duck wearing a red/orange coat, and falling) in a 4x4 car boot registration FH [not McCanns' car] for 3 hours and 2 minutes, averaging 40mph, ie 120 miles, to a work place for 2-3 days, then she was then on a boat via Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and will now be found in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen.

[filippo lippi]

Just asked the following question on the "online clairvoyant" section of the Newsshopper website. It is nearly a year...


It's nearly a year now since Graham made this prediction
"Graham was asked by a reporter 13/Jun/07 about Madeleine McCann and said will be found 16/Jun/07 between Shohb, Sinaa, Yemen and Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e. "
has he any update?

[filippo lippi]

Huzzah! Now we have some real action


Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via an investigative reporter (Mark Chandler's notes above for extra detail ie maiden name of abductor), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/Jun (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated: 24/04/07 3pm the train of events started; then 03/05/07 9pm she was taken from her parents (by 'Jen' after Madeleine had left the unlocked apartment carrying a toy duck wearing a red/orange coat, and falling) in a 4x4 car boot registration FH [not McCanns' car] for 3 hours and 2 minutes, averaging 40mph, ie 120 miles, to a work place for 2-3 days, then she was then on a boat via Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and will now be found in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen, 2 years later.

[filippo lippi]

Hold on to your hats, Dare-o-philes, our Graham has amended the story yet again...


Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via an investigative reporter (Mark Chandler's notes above for extra detail ie maiden name of abductor), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/Jun (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated: 24/04/07 3pm the train of events started; then 03/05/07 9pm she was taken from her parents (by 'Jen' after Madeleine had left the unlocked apartment carrying a toy duck wearing a red/orange coat, and falling) in a 4x4 car boot registration FH [not McCanns' car] for 3 hours and 2 minutes, averaging 40mph, ie 120 miles, to a work place for 2-3 days, then she was then on a boat via Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e and will now be found in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen, 2 years later, but will be spotted 19 months after abduction.

Which I reckon is pretty soon.

My prediction is something will happen soon, but it will only be Graham changing the story yet again.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Hold on to your hats, Dare-o-philes, our Graham has amended the story yet again...



Which I reckon is pretty soon.

My prediction is something will happen soon, but it will only be Graham changing the story yet again.

You should email him this thread, if he's not already aware.

What a complete clown.

[filippo lippi]

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/search/2172085.Graham_Dare__Veritas/


:scared:

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/search/2172085.Graham_Dare__Veritas/


:scared:

Thats mad.

[Admin]

Doesn't "Veritas" mean "Truth"?

Well, I suppose if you keep changing what you say, you'll get there in the end. ::)

[Dubious Dick]

In Vino Veritas!

Veritas! Veritable ass! Dare I mean.

[MischiefMonkey]

In Vino Veritas!

Veritas! Veritable ass! Dare I mean.

In wine is truth?

On the pop tonight Dick?

[Trinoc]

"The man who said 'in vino veritas' was not only lying, but drunk." ... Anon.

[filippo lippi]

19 months are up. You'd have thought a sighting would have made a bigger splash in the news

[Dubious Dick]

Just sent him this:

So Graham,

Where is she. Doesn't look like she's been found yet, despite all your amazing predictions. Are you intending to apologise for your bullshit?

P

Awaiting reply with baited breath!!

[Dubious Dick]

And received this in response:

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:44 PM, <dare@sensitives.co.uk> wrote:
i was asked by a reader to help find her, but only agreed if a reporter
came to see me, and his hand written notes were published.
there was no personal gain from this.
hopefully someone will check the 2 surnames in the hand writted notes,
plus the latitude/longitude, et, and find her.
until then there is nothing more i can do.
but in the meantime i do not expect abusive emails?
what is your postal address?
> So Graham,

So, responded as follows:

You specifically stated that she would be found on various different dates. The last prediction we are aware of was that she would be found after nineteen Months. As far as we can tell the time is up, So where is she? The record of your predictions is there for all to see and you have failed, miserably, as all so called psychics do when pretending that they can help in such cases.

The fact is that you are a fraud, a liar and a conman. Like ambulance chasing lawyers, you and your kind prey on the vulnerable and needy. There is not a single verifiable case anywhere of one of you crooks ever delivering the goods.

Why would you need my mailing address. To sue me? Well, if you want to you can have me traced via Google with the appropriate legal back up. I will make a prediction. You won't, because you know you cannot succeed.

As a father, it makes me particularly angry that you play these ridiculous games of involving yourself with the case of a child in a way that is completely useless and harmful.

What do you expect for your vile behaviour. Adoration and respect? Get real!

[Julia]

Now don't hold back, DD. What do you really think of Mr Dare? ;)

[NorthernSoul]

I love reading e-mails from DD, even when he tries not to show it, you can see he feels strongly about this stuff and has a genuine desire to see fraudsters exposed.

[tolman]

So the 'psychic' doesn't expect critical emails when he chooses to publicise himself by clinging to the coat-tails of a tragic child disappearance?

[Mulder]

I love reading e-mails from DD, even when he tries not to show it, you can see he feels strongly about this stuff and has a genuine desire to see fraudsters exposed.

Do you have any actual examples where he tried not to show it? :smiley:

[Dubious Dick]

Do you have any actual examples where he tried not to show it? :smiley:


I hope not!!:chainsaw:

[NorthernSoul]

Do you have any actual examples where he tried not to show it? :smiley:

Good point, well made.

[Mulder]

I understand DD wants to get taken to court by a psychic so he can challenge them to demonstrate their abilities. Am I not right in thinking this has been tried before but the legal bods always avoid the question?

Really, it is a scientific question rather than a legal one.

[tolman]

Surely, it's not *only* a scientific question?

If someone is trying to extract money from people in return for a service they claim to be able to do, it's a social/legal/ethical question as well.

[Mulder]

It becomes legal once you've demonstrated that what is claimed is not possible.

You could approach it on a case by case basis, I suppose. You could demonstrate legally that a particular medium cannot do what they claim. That would not prove they all can't.

[Dubious Dick]

I am not seriously trying to get taken to Court, although wouldn't mind if one of them tried. Just making a point.

I agree that one case would not cure all but it might be a start.

Mainly I just get very angry at the obvious bs. Yes, I know that a skeptic should remain open minded, and I am in the sense that if any of them did present credible evidence I would seriously reconsider my position, but they simpy have not, do not and will not.

I guess I take the view that we have seen and heard so many different claims down the years that have been shown to be fraudulent or seriously deluded, that the chances of any medium or psychic being real are so damn small as to be be to all intents and purposes non-existent.

So, I make my challenges as direct and unequivocal as possible. Sorry when it offends the sensibilities of more cautious minds but guess that's my style. So often we see discussions on these issues go round and round in ever decreasing circles and I like a bit of direct action sometimes.

[MischiefMonkey]

So, if any of us are up on a libel charge, are you available to defend us pro-bono;D

Say yes & I'll step up my rather guarded comments on other forums

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=30167634&postcount=11

Four years on Digital Spy without a ban or even a warning is some kind of record!!!

[lost thought]

A service promised, a service paid for, a service not provided. isn't this fraud regardless of what the service is called.
DD stick the boot right in where the sun does shineth not. O0

[filippo lippi]

Two years down the line and Graham still wrong. Update to his "prediction" from 2007 pending.

[mattdleo]

Just reading through the posts. You know I have no problem with these frauds giving people hope and faith, but when there is lives at possible risk it takes it to another level doesnt it? Just think if the police took these claims seriously how valuable resources could be spent in the wrong direction.

[tolman]

Just think if the police took these claims seriously how valuable resources could be spent in the wrong direction.
Surely, that's a matter for the police, who typically *don't* pay attention to alleged mediums.

[mattdleo]

Surely, that's a matter for the police, who typically *don't* pay attention to alleged mediums.

Thank goodness

[Croydon Bob]

Surely, that's a matter for the police, who typically *don't* pay attention to alleged mediums.

But it has been said that, specifically in the McCann case, the police did have to waste lots of resources chasing up nonsense from self-promoting 'psychics' because the McCann family would pass the claims to the police who felt required to pander to them because of media pressure.

[Admin]

I've just stumbled across this thread again so I thought I would check up on Graham's prediction:


Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via an investigative reporter (Mark Chandler's notes above for extra detail ie maiden name of abductor), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/Jun (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated: 24/04/07 3pm the train of events started; then 03/05/07 9pm she was taken from her parents (by 'Jen' after Madeleine had left the unlocked apartment carrying a toy duck wearing a red/orange coat, and falling) in a 4x4 car boot registration FH [not McCanns' car] for 3 hours and 2 minutes, averaging 40mph, ie 120 miles, to a work place for 2-3 days, then she was then on a boat via Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e (Gulf of Aden) and will now be found in the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen, 2 years later, but will be spotted 19 months after abduction.

Although he changed it again, it is still obviously wrong.

Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see what his next prediction is...

[filippo lippi]

Hello. Long time, no post.

Stil, Graham's latest update to the prediction he made AT THE TIME is a cracker.



Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via an investigative reporter (Mark Chandler's notes above for extra detail), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/06/07 (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated: 24/04/07 3pm the train of events started; then 03/05/07 9:11pm she was taken from her parents (by 'Jen Bokr' after Madeleine had left the unlocked apartment carrying a toy duck wearing a red/orange coat, and falling) in a 4x4 car boot registration FH [not McCanns' car] for 3 hours and 2 minutes, averaging 40mph, ie 120 miles, to a work place for 2-3 days, then she was then on a boat via Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e, Gulf of Aden, to the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen, 2 years later she will be named Shahla Khan, wear glasses, with a telephone number containing 6666, and is to be found in the 2009 Bath Christmas Market with her new brother/mother(Tammy).

[filippo lippi]

Not found at the Christmas market, so he revises "WHAT WAS SAID AT THE TIME!"



Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via an investigative reporter (Mark Chandler's notes above for extra detail), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/06/07 (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated: 24/04/07 3pm the train of events started; then 03/05/07 9:11pm she was taken from her parents (by 'Jen Bokr' after Madeleine had left the unlocked apartment carrying a toy duck wearing a red/orange coat, and falling) in a 4x4 car boot registration FH [not McCanns' car] for 3 hours and 2 minutes, averaging 40mph, ie 120 miles, to a work place for 2-3 days, then she was then on a boat via Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e, Gulf of Aden, to the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen, 2 years later she will be named Shahla Khan, wear glasses, and is to be found by a police officer with an ID including the digits 6666 in Bath with her new brother/mother(Tammy).

[filippo lippi]

I still keep an eye on Graham, because he's still at it. Hilariously, this time Graham has included a "prediction" ("postdiction?") about the past and still got it wrong. I make thirty three months from 03/05/07 to be 03/02/10, about four months before the earliest he could have posted this revision.



Graham Dare was asked by a reader to find Madeleine McCann, but would only work via an investigative reporter (Mark Chandler's notes above for extra detail), who visited (from the newsshopper.co.uk) for 2 hours on the evening of 13/06/07 (when it was widely believed that the Dutch newspaper report was correct but Graham went against the flow) and Graham stated: 24/04/07 3pm the train of events started; then 03/05/07 9:11pm she was taken from her parents (by 'Jen Bokr' after Madeleine had left the unlocked apartment carrying a toy duck wearing a red/orange coat, and falling) in a 4x4 car boot registration FH [not McCanns' car] for 3 hours and 2 minutes, averaging 40mph, ie 120 miles, to a work place for 2-3 days, then she was then on a boat via Latitude 12.3n Longitude 49.9e, Gulf of Aden, to the Shohb factory in Sinaa, Yemen, 33 months later she will be named Shahla Khan, wear glasses, and is to be found by a police officer with an ID including the digits 6666 in Bath with her new brother/mother(Tammy).


ETA - I've just had a count up and I make that at least 14 (fourteen) time GD has changed his prediction.

[kayle]

according to http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/:

LATEST NEWS, updated 08/Oct/10:
GRAHAM DARE IS RETIRING 01/Oct/11.
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Do them spirits retire together with the psychics?

[bindeweede]

according to http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/:

LATEST NEWS, updated 08/Oct/10:
GRAHAM DARE IS RETIRING 01/Oct/11.
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Do them spirits retire together with the psychics?

Thanks kayle. The link works if the final colon is removed.

http://www.spiritual-healers.co.uk/

[kayle]

Sorry, I am not from the UK, so I do not know if there have been any recent findings in the case. But I somehow guess that his prediction has retired as well...

[Admin]

It seems that Britain's #1 medium, Graham Dare, was a psychic healer too! Only his unusual method of "balancing energies" has led him to be convicted of sexual abuse. Graham Dare will be sentenced in January and will also be signing the sex offenders' register. See:


Psychic healer and Lewisham mayoral candidate, Graham Dare, faces jail over sex assaults

A SPIRITUAL healer and clairvoyant who once ran to be Lewisham’s mayor is facing jail for sexually assaulting a client, claiming he was trying to “correct energy flow”. Graham Dare, aged 57, of Taymount Rise, Forest Hill, boasts of celebrity endorsements from TV presenters Melinda Messenger, Kate Thornton and Michaela Strachan. He claims to have communicated with the spirit of Diana, Princess of Wales, briefly wrote a blog for News Shopper and said he had tracked missing toddler Madeleine McCann to Yemen using his psychic powers.

Blackfriars Crown Court heard Dare preyed on a trusting 31-year-old Japanese student last September when she came for help with migraines. He groomed her by treating her naked or partially-clothed for three of their six sessions. Dare, waiving his fee for most of the appointments, fondled her breasts and groin before stripping off and luring her into massaging him.

Blackfriars Crown Court heard the woman was suspicious about his “strange” methods but did not object because she feared causing offence.

Heather Stangoe, prosecuting, said: 'It’s not a crime to trust someone. What is a crime is to take advantage of someone's trust and naivety and to abuse it for your sexual pleasure.' The victim described how, on one occasion he “concentrated between my legs and he held my nipple”. Dare told her: “This is the way to correct the energy flow.” On the final occasion, on September 20, Dare stripped naked while she massaged his arms and legs. She eventually realised he was masturbating. The victim said: “I didn't say anything. I was really, really scared. “I still believed he was a famous healer. “I was blaming myself because I hadn't paid him and he helped himself to my body.”

Dare insisted he was trying to help the woman, and said she might have been lying due to involvement in “Japanese mafia cults”. As Dare was convicted of three charges of sexual assault on December 5, jurors heard police investigated another complaint of 'a similar nature' in last April but no charge was brought.

He must sign the sexual offenders' register and will be sentenced on January 6.
Source (http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/9403595.Psychic_healer_and_Lewisham_mayoral_candid ate_faces_jail_over_sex_assaults/)