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Trinoc
25th September 2008, 02:02 PM
A link recently posted on the Bad Science (http://www.badscience.net/forum/index.php) forum ...

Fair Deal Homeopathy (http://www.fdhom.co.uk/index.asp)

Read it ... it's brilliant, and it might even be genuine (I haven't sent them a fiver to find out). I particularly like the testimonials page, and the sub-sub-title at the bottom right of the page headings.

Pebble
25th September 2008, 02:53 PM
So good, I am unclear whether it is a spoof or not.

Quote:
I used to get a cold every now and again, and it really used to get me down. I decided to be pro-active, and searched for something that might defend me against getting new colds. I tried some [FairDeal] homoeopathic remedies to build myself up, and now I only get a cold every now and again.
– Scott Chapman, Nuneaton

Blue Wode
25th September 2008, 03:03 PM
Apparently it’s genuine:

Is this website a spoof? When Gough asked the owners they were most offended. "A spoof?" they replied. "Tsk tsk! We dispatch homeopathic remedies* the same working day! Real pills! In real little bottles and everything! How authentic do you want us to be?"

http://richarddawkins.net/userComments,page1,30692 (http://richarddawkins.net/userComments,page1,30692)
(See 2nd comment)

Trinoc
25th September 2008, 03:13 PM
This is my favourite:-

I ordered your product to help treat a mild cold I was experiencing and that evening I began to feel much better. By the time your product arrived I was nearly fully cured!

Tim the Mage
25th September 2008, 11:50 PM
There is, of course, one born every minute.

She_Liger
26th October 2008, 09:59 PM
Oh, how some low creatures are capable to shift for the sake of money making! ;)They can even become honest!>:D

bindeweede
26th October 2008, 10:11 PM
I quite liked this.......



I'm actually ill - can FairDeal Homeopathy help me?

Go to your doctor immediately. Fairdeal Homeopathy will not be able to cure you. However, the placebo effect generated by taking FairDeal Homeopathic products may reduce the unpleasantness of some of the symptoms. Homeopathy of any sort is not a medical treatment, neither is it a substitute for evidence-based medicine and proper medical opinion.
Well, they recommend Tincture of Belladonna sulph (200C). For my piles, don't you know?

And this,
Important: If you believe you may have a serious illness, or require real medical advice, visit your GP immediately. Similarly, if you're travelling abroad and require immunisation against disease - see your GP. You should not use homeopathy as a substitute for real medical treatment.

Pebble
26th October 2008, 10:42 PM
Oh, how some low creatures are capable to shift for the sake of money making! ;)They can even become honest!>:D

And you?

farmersboy
27th October 2008, 08:19 AM
"What conditions can FairDeal Homeopathy treat**?"

"**"Treat" in no way implies "cure"

Brilliant. ;D

She_Liger
27th October 2008, 08:50 AM
And you?

What - "you"?
Do you think that the more stupid questions you ask, the more "scepticaly" you look? ;)
Explain, please, bud, what you wanted to say (if you wanted to say something...;))

Pebble
27th October 2008, 09:00 AM
What - "you"?
Do you think that the more stupid questions you ask, the more "scepticaly" you look? ;)
Explain, please, bud, what you wanted to say (if you wanted to say something...;))

Simply observing that you had completely missed the whole point of the site.

As this comment illustrates, the site provides the gullible with the opportunity to see how they ought behave, but if they still wish to part with money for water - that opportunity is provided, else they will simply go elsewhere.

I'm actually ill - can FairDeal Homeopathy help me?

Go to your doctor immediately.

Trinoc
27th October 2008, 09:33 AM
Do you think that the more stupid questions you ask, the more "scepticaly" you look? ;)
Hi Pot, I've got this Kettle I'd like you to meet.

Matt
27th October 2008, 09:37 AM
Hi Pot, I've got this Kettle I'd like you to meet.

Racist!

Trinoc
27th October 2008, 09:49 AM
Racist!
My pot is a sort of metallic colour and my kettle is white. Your point? :smiley:

She_Liger
27th October 2008, 11:18 AM
Simply observing that you had completely missed the whole point of the site.

As this comment illustrates, the site provides the gullible with the opportunity to see how they ought behave, but if they still wish to part with money for water - that opportunity is provided, else they will simply go elsewhere.

I'm actually ill - can FairDeal Homeopathy help me?

Go to your doctor immediately.

I CAN read, my dear;)
And it were you who missed. You missed that they CONTINUE still to sell holy water!
Or do you think that they became quackbasters after this and started to do honest business? ..>:D

She_Liger
27th October 2008, 11:23 AM
To Trinoc and Matt

OK! It seems you have indeed found each other ;D
And keep up it! Talk with each other like real... brainless "utensil" ;)

Dubious Dick
27th October 2008, 12:03 PM
Weird. I thought that the placebo effect works on the basis that the person taking a placebo does not know that is what they are getting. Hence they believe that the potion/lotion/pill is actually doing something for them. My understanding is that a positive frame of mind in some ways boosts the natural immune system, and encourages the production of feelgood chemicals in the brain.

So, if they tell people it is only a placebo, then they eliminate potential positive effects?

Wonder what the Society of Homeopaths thinks of this?

Surely a nail in the coffin? Almost suicidal!

Trinoc
27th October 2008, 12:50 PM
Weird. I thought that the placebo effect works on the basis that the person taking a placebo does not know that is what they are getting. Hence they believe that the potion/lotion/pill is actually doing something for them. My understanding is that a positive frame of mind in some ways boosts the natural immune system, and encourages the production of feelgood chemicals in the brain.

So, if they tell people it is only a placebo, then they eliminate potential positive effects?

Wonder what the Society of Homeopaths thinks of this?

Surely a nail in the coffin? Almost suicidal!
Not necessarily. If you believe in the placebo effect then maybe you can get a benefit even though you know you are only taking a placebo!

For She-Liger: Fair Deal Homeopathy sells sugar pills containing no active ingredient, and make it perfectly clear that this is what they are selling. If someone chooses to send them a fiver for a bottle of sugar pills they get exactly what they were told they would get. No dishonesty there at all.

(Maybe if She-Liger would lighten up a bit and stop being deliberately confrontational, we might have a better chance of holding a proper debate.)

She_Liger
27th October 2008, 02:02 PM
(Maybe if She-Liger would lighten up a bit and stop being deliberately confrontational, we might have a better chance of holding a proper debate.)

Yes? Do you think so?:smiley:
Interestingly... :ponder:

Do you want to know what I like here? That - all of you here are kind (not evil-minded). :smiley: You can be stupid (sometimes), indifferent (often), etc., but not evil-minded.
Am I wrong, eh?;)
Oh! Sceptics in other countries are different! For instance, I was long since banned on Russian forum with my tricks! :tongue:>:D

OK. I like your society.:smiley:
I'll try be non-hooligan, ok? :angel:I don't know whether I shall be able... ::) However I'll try... ;)

Matt
27th October 2008, 02:54 PM
To Trinoc and Matt

OK! It seems you have indeed found each other ;D
And keep up it! Talk with each other like real... brainless "utensil" ;)

Hello She_Liger, pleased to make your acquaintance. Please allow me to take this opportunity to welcome you to the forum. I would have done so before but your first post was during my recent hiatus from the forum.

I sense that you have some animosity towards me. Have we crossed paths before? Perhaps on another forum or maybe you used to post here under a different name.

I'm intrigued as you've only posted in four threads up until now and this is the first time I've posted in any of them other than the "Does Love Exist" thread where your brief comment was months after I'd written anything.

I posted one word, a joke, not even targeted at you and yet your simile describes me as a brainless utensil. I have to wonder if this might be a new world record in making a bad impression, and I don't even know what was wrong with my little witicism.

I mean I do realise that your post was indeed a joke of sorts, pots kettles and utensils being kitchen implements and all that but it seems there's animosity beyond the desire to lighten the mood with a little hilarity.

Having briefly perused your other posts it does appear that you are hindered by your rudeness. (Unless being obnoxious is itself is your actual goal.) Have you tried chocolate? My wife swears by it when she's premenstrual, and by that I mean she yells at me "GET ME SOME FUCKING CHOCOLATE" >:D

Of course I don't mean to presume that your irrational poor manners are anything to do with women's problems. Maybe you just need to get laid. ::)

Anyway I just thought I ought to warn you that if our paths cross again and you haven't lean't how to behave in a civil manner I'll cut your damn whiskers off!

TTFN

She_Liger
27th October 2008, 08:47 PM
Hmmm..
No! They are distinctly non evil-minded folk! And even funny!:smiley:
However utensil in local kitchen is really a bit angry and is clanking too loudly::)

Ooops! I promised - :-X !!!;);D;D

Oh, but I am not to blame that he is angry and his wife is angry...
As for me, I am NOT angry at all. Simply I am big and local kitchens are too narrow ... ;)

Matt, didn't you try to give her a milk when she is angry? It helps to cats (to give a milk and to pat a bit) when they are angry, though I don't know exactly about human females...;)

By the way, why don't you like my whiskers? I think that Big Cat with whiskers is not worse than big man with moustache :smiley: