Digital homeopathy.

[bindeweede]

I knew about the idea that water can "remember" the molecules of a remedy, even though there have been so many dilutions, that not a single molecule can be present.

But I'd not heard that Jacques Benveniste developed his idea further, saying that "this memory can be taken electromagnetically from the water, stored digitally on a computer, emailed to the other side of the world, and "played back" via a sound card into new water - which instantly acquires the same properties as the original."

Quoted from "How Mumbo Jumbo Conquered the World" - Francis Wheen.

[Blue Wode]

I knew about the idea that water can "remember" the molecules of a remedy, even though there have been so many dilutions, that not a single molecule can be present.

But I'd not heard that Jacques Benveniste developed his idea further, saying that "this memory can be taken electromagnetically from the water, stored digitally on a computer, emailed to the other side of the world, and "played back" via a sound card into new water - which instantly acquires the same properties as the original."

He did indeed. You can read all about it, in depth, here:
http://www.digibio.com/ (http://www.digibio.com/)


And here’s a paper that refuted his claims:
http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/full/20/1/23 (http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/full/20/1/23)

[Mojo]

I knew about the idea that water can "remember" the molecules of a remedy, even though there have been so many dilutions, that not a single molecule can be present.

But I'd not heard that Jacques Benveniste developed his idea further, saying that "this memory can be taken electromagnetically from the water, stored digitally on a computer, emailed to the other side of the world, and "played back" via a sound card into new water - which instantly acquires the same properties as the original."
Those are the two discoveries that made him the only person to win two Ig Nobel prizes.

[bobdezon]

I believe Randi and co blew this theory out of the water when they removed operator error during testing.

[Mojo]

You might also like to check out Peter Chappell (http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/08/will-homeopathy-and-itunes-cure-aids.html).

ETA: although he is described as a Fellow of the Society of Homeopaths there, it seems that this is no longer the case. A Google search for "peter chappell" FSHom still turns up plenty of hits though.

[bindeweede]

Mr Chappell is offering a way to boost resistance to swine flu - you listen to a "healing" mp3 file. Or you can take tablets or drops.

{I hope this is not duplicating something already posted here}.



How does it work?

Conventional medicine works by attacking the virus while the immune system struggles to deal with the remaining viruses. Recovery depends upon the immune system.

The healing downloads method is based on resonance and a download or the pills cause a specific swine influenza resonance in your immune system so it acts to fight it off. In the early stages it will boost the immune system against swine influenza and it may stop it invading you or eliminate it before it gets a hold. If the influenza gets a hold it will strengthen the immune response. It will then work well with conventional medicines that attack the viruses and it becomes a win-win situation. Exactly how resonance works is a longer story.http://www.healingdownloads.com/swine-flu.php

[Trinoc]

http://www.healingdownloads.com/swine-flu.php
It's a recording of some ocean waves. I think it might have been mentioned in another thread - it rings a bell (or was that the cold sore cure file?).

Anyway, I'm sure that if I listen to it and my flu goes away in 21 days, then if I had not listened it would have dragged on for three weeks.

[geni]

Remedy machines are mostly popular amoung the practical homeopathy types. Say The Lakeland College of Homeopathy, The various colleges of practical homeopathy and Southeast College Of Homeopathy.

[Dubious Dick]

Remedy machines are mostly popular amoung the practical homeopathy types. Say The Lakeland College of Homeopathy, The various colleges of practical homeopathy and Southeast College Of Homeopathy.

Please can you clarify this? I am baffled by the idea of 'practical' homeopathy!

[Trinoc]

Please can you clarify this? I am baffled by the idea of 'practical' homeopathy!
This, perhaps ...

http://college-of-practical-homeopathy.com/

[geni]

Please can you clarify this? I am baffled by the idea of 'practical' homeopathy!


Homeopathy has broken up into a number of groups. The classical lot who tend to at least claim to closely follow the work of Samuel Hahnemann. Practical homeopaths tend to be prepared to adopt new bits of weirdness such as remedy machines various forms of electronic diagnosis and in some cases homeopathic vaccines (although some of the classical mob accept those as well). There is also the whole combination remedy thing (multiple homeopathic remedies mixed together) the classical homeopaths reject them. Some practical homeopaths accept them.

[Ryoden]

Please can you clarify this? I am baffled by the idea of 'practical' homeopathy!


I think it should be summed up as this:

Drink water, it's good for you!:cheesy:

[Matt]

In digital computing data is stored as a series of ones and zeros. This concept has been adopted and adapted by digital homeopathy which in the best traditions of medical homeopathy stores data as an endless string of zeros. You would think that this means that any data encoded by digital homeopathy would be indistinguishable from any other similarly encoded data. This is in fact confirmed in all known tests however digital homeopaths are keen to point out that their encodings are cheaper, more secure and require less training or mathematical aptitude than mainstream methods which are vulnerable to innumerable viruses, trojans and worms. As such it is hardly surprising that mainstream computer scientists seek to suppress their successes through so called scientific tests which really don't apply to the homeopathic paradigm.

[lost thought]

I think it should be summed up as this:

Drink water, it's good for you!:cheesy:

Only if it's digital. :cheesy: