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cancersurvivor
8th December 2007, 06:42 AM
Hi everybody, my diet is pretty normal, although there are too little vegetables and fruits. I do not have any eating disorders and I am not on other diet, although if that one would help me, please recommend a diet plans. But I love meats. Can someone please come up with diet plans and exercise plans for me? If they have been proven to work very well, then I'll happily follow them. Please help.
LeQue
8th December 2007, 07:17 AM
What has become normal to the western world is not that great.
I recommend you talk with a licensed dietitian if you want solid advice... It takes full medical and health information including your weight and height, current level of activity, current intake of calories, blood tests... that sort of thing. There are tons of fad diets around that will do you no good, so if you are concerned about your health go see a professional.
Fiona
8th December 2007, 10:00 AM
Or, if you are selling something, you could just cut to the chase ;)
FarSideOfTheMoon
8th December 2007, 12:40 PM
Hi everybody, my diet is pretty normal, although there are too little vegetables and fruits. I do not have any eating disorders and I am not on other diet, although if that one would help me, please recommend a diet plans. But I love meats. Can someone please come up with diet plans and exercise plans for me? If they have been proven to work very well, then I'll happily follow them. Please help.
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DrS
8th December 2007, 01:25 PM
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Mojo
8th December 2007, 06:32 PM
Hi everybody, my diet is pretty normal, although there are too little vegetables and fruits.
I would recommend eating more vegetables and fruit, then.
I do not have any eating disorders and I am not on other diet, although if that one would help me, please recommend a diet plans.
I would recommend eating more vegetables and fruit.
But I love meats.
Eat sensible amounts of meat, and eat vegetables with it. And maybe some fruit for dessert.
Can someone please come up with diet plans and exercise plans for me?
Sure: don't eat excessive amounts of anything, and try to eat more vegetables and fruit. Oh, and get off your arse and get a bit of exercise.
If they have been proven to work very well, then I'll happily follow them. Please help.
Avoiding eating excessively, making sure that you include enough fruit and vegetables in your diet and getting off your arse and getting some exercise works fine. Try it.
And if any charlatan shows up offering to sell you a diet plan, or to sell you supplements instead of eating a balanced diet, tell them where to stuff it.
tripple_H
3rd September 2008, 11:05 AM
you should also eat some more fruits and vegetables as they help you burn your excess calories
Matt
3rd September 2008, 11:42 AM
you should also eat some more fruits and vegetables as they help you burn your excess calories
Hows that then?
lazerustheduck
6th October 2008, 01:19 AM
The best way to lose weight is to increase exercise, most peoples dietary requirements are filled by a normal eating regime. Unless you are really abusing your body with your diet exercise is the best way to go.
Tomolac
8th October 2008, 12:31 PM
you should also eat some more fruits and vegetables as they help you burn your excess calories
Hows that then?
I think the idea behind it is that your metabolism increases every time you eat food, of course protein is good for this and many vegetables are high in protein, fruit however is not. ones things for sure tho diet is not as simple as that, that being healthier is not as simple as eating more fruit and veg. I'd say tripple needs to visit a dietitian as well?
Mongrel
8th October 2008, 01:33 PM
I think the idea behind it is that your metabolism increases every time you eat food, of course protein is good for this and many vegetables are high in protein, fruit however is not. ones things for sure tho diet is not as simple as that, that being healthier is not as simple as eating more fruit and veg. I'd say tripple needs to visit a dietitian as well?
Fruit is high in fructose and energy dense compared to, say a steak whilst also having a lower Glycemic index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index) measurement.
As for eating more fruit and veg, whilst it's not a miracle cure it's probably the easiest and simplest thing to change to improve an 'average' persons diet.
FarSideOfTheMoon
9th October 2008, 12:42 PM
Fruit is high in fructose and energy dense compared to, say a steak whilst also having a lower Glycemic index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index) measurement.
As for eating more fruit and veg, whilst it's not a miracle cure it's probably the easiest and simplest thing to change to improve an 'average' persons diet.
'Eating' being an important word in that sentence. Drinking juices doesn't give the body the necessary fibre from the fruit.
This from a couple of months ago:
http://www.themedguru.com/articles/orange_juice_intake_increases_womens_diabetes_risk-8616727.html
Mongrel
9th October 2008, 04:21 PM
'Eating' being an important word in that sentence. Drinking juices doesn't give the body the necessary fibre from the fruit.
This from a couple of months ago:
http://www.themedguru.com/articles/orange_juice_intake_increases_womens_diabetes_risk-8616727.html
Hmmm....
Whilst probably true that just juice is bad; *
No real numbers ("increase of 18%" is meaningless without a number to start from)
No mention of whether juice was drunk by itself or as part of a meal (probably far less harmful with a couple of slices of Wholemeal toast)
How was the comparison done? With the wording it implies that 1 glass of juice = Juice of 3 oranges. Whilst I enjoy an orange I don't eat 3 at a sitting, they'd be strung out during the day.
At the moment it's hard enough to get people to comply with "5 a day", if we start excluding certain items then we're back to the confusion the campaign was trying to stamp out.
A quick peek at the 'From the MedGurus' dropdown has 'Allopathy' at the top of the list and it goes downhill from there. Wouldn't be my first choice for that sort of data.
*A quick search of Pubmed turned up nothing and don't have time for more at the moment.
FarSideOfTheMoon
10th October 2008, 07:38 AM
I remember hearing about that study on the news on and tv at the time - but that was first link I found yesterday. My skeptical radar was temporarily switched off I think.
I'm sure that the official 5-a-day advice used to not include juices, however if you look at the nhs site nowadays they are happy to include juices. As you say, it's hard enough to get people to eat enough fruit, so juices are better than nothing.
Personally I have a glass of orange juice every morning, but it's with a protein shake and bowl of porridge. I've always been a bit wary (from the times I did a GI style diet a few years ago) of the potential sugar boost from drinking juice on it's own.
Mongrel
10th October 2008, 12:24 PM
Found the paper (http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/31/7/1311?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=orange+juice&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT), it was published online before print.
It does say that the high sugar content and quick absorption when drunk alone are probably the causes, so your morning OJ is safe ;)
Tomolac
10th October 2008, 12:51 PM
fruit juices are chocker bloke with sugars, lots natural sugars and its probably very difficult to get it without cane sugar as well. I'm reminded of one popular mini fruit drink that was boasting having 400% of your RDA for vitamin C and remember wondering where this idea came from that with most things you want to control your intake (like fat, carbs, sugar etc.) but with vitamins you simply want to take as much as you can?
and I don't eat any fruit at all, trying to cut down on my carbs ;)
Mongrel
10th October 2008, 01:32 PM
and I don't eat any fruit at all, trying to cut down on my carbs ;)
Hope you're having lots of green, leafy vegetables ;)
Tomolac
10th October 2008, 08:47 PM
I do love broccoli :smiley:
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