HELP!! Strangest Experience needs explanation!

[InForAPennyInForApound]

What I experienced 6 years ago was very weird, but shortly after this happened, I immediately put it out of my mind, as neither my children nor their friends who were present at that moment, including myself had an explanation of this scenario. ???

I am a writer/poet but not by profession, was presently compiling an anthology of poetry, having been introduced to a artist some 1200 miles away from where we were residing at that time. He was to paint pictures of what my poetry was based on. Bear with me, as I need you to know a short background in order to offer me your explanations.

During our artistic interaction, this person frequently mentioned he would one day travel to visit with us. Travel in my mind was either going by car, train or plane... However, I to this day do not understand what happened!! :undecided: Told him you welcome, that way the book and artistry will be completed in a shorter time frame etc., than always sending via internet/fax or DHL.

A very cold, dark wet and windy winter's morning, we all awoke to the doorbell ringing, very early for visitors on a Saturday morning. My children's friends came over for what reason still vague to us to this day. I remember voices, then a knock on my bedroom door, and the girl asked to enter as there was a phone call for me (8 a.m) on her mobile! She looked extremely confused, well, we all were!! Odd, I have my own mobile next to my bed, why hadn't it rung? I took the call and yes, it was for me, and I asked the person calling, why have you called on a mobile number that isn't mine? He repeated that he had phoned my number... Why had it then rung on hers? Strange? yet this is the truth... He thought I was a nutter!

We were all taken aback at how a phone call from a stranger's line could be linked to/for me when I hardly knew this girl and what made it "jump" to her phone? I to this day don't get it..I have googled this many times but have not found a single fact to answer that question! At first I thought my children and their friends were playing a trick on me, but they were too shocked to find this strange discovery.

When I opened my bedroom door, I walked straight into what looked like a huge spiders web, it was white, almost like a type of white silicone, it was hanging from the ceiling and concentrated around the end of the passage where our bedroom doors were. We turned on all the lights and there was this white web like things hanging all around the ceiling and sides of passage walls. It was hanging and was really drooping from the ceiling especially at my bedroom door!! Mine was the worst! We all got a fright, thought there must be a huge spider in our condo, as we had just moved to a new home and country. We had to brush it down and when we felt it, as I mentioned previously above, it felt like silicone.

My question to everyone out there who reads this, I want to know what happened that morning? I really am seeking answers. Why did the phone call come through on a stranger's phone and not my own? What is this white silicone web like substance and what was it doing in my home?

I have asked numerous people who think this the strangest story and actually asked if we weren't dreaming, no! This happened, and I to this day wonder about it. Strangely, after that morning, the artist became withdrawn and eventually we lost contact. Why?

I want you to know, that I have no idea what happened that morning. I have not spoken out too much about this experience, as people thought we were crazy! They kept telling me that my kids must have sprayed some silicone in the home, how could they when we were all asleep and awoken by the doorbell, and how come a phone call which is supposed to ring on my mobile rang on a strangers mobile.

Can anyone shed light on this please? I now more than ever want to know what that was.

[bobdezon]

No idea about the phone, maybe the call was forwarded via the closest cell to you location but it was her phone that responded?

The web things are odd, did you take pictures or retain a sample of it?

The artist might have just had real life concerns and could no longer work for/with you and been too embarrased to speak about it with you.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

We were very squeamish and actually got cold chills when we touched it, as we walked into it! No, unfortunately we threw it away, as my son and I put our hands inside a plastic bag once he had swept it off the ceiling, walls and my door to collect it in there. I have really tried to find an explanation for this but to date, nothing on the internet.

The phone call was very strange, it seemed like crossed lines, but how does that happen with a mobile phone? Each mobile number correctly dialed is answered by the recipient. We checked her mobile and the man's mobile no was on her phone. He has never met her, does not have her mobile no, plus we were at the time using different servers.

It was weird! :undecided: The artist stopped taking my calls after I had told him of this experience. Perhaps he thought I was from cuckoo land!

[Janot]

How did this stranger know that it was you who was supposed to take the call? I can't work out who was calling.

This sounds like a wind-up. Can you give more detail?

[InForAPennyInForApound]

How did this stranger know that it was you who was supposed to take the call? I can't work out who was calling.

This sounds like a wind-up. Can you give more detail?

It sounds crazy! If we had not witnessed this, I would say its a lot of baloney! The girl answered her mobile, the person calling me had actually phoned me on my mobile number, somehow the call went to her phone??, and the person who called asked to speak to me thinking it was my daughter who answered! I was then handed her mobile to take a call which was supposed to be on my mobile. To this day, I have no explanation for what happened. Neither do we know what those white silicone web like things were! I wish there is a more logical answer for this. I have searched online for answers, asked people about this, but no one can give me a answer to why this happened. The white web strings is strange. Some have said perhaps it was a form of sudden energy which caused the phone calls to switch from one mobile to the other, but I don't buy that! There was no thunder storm or lightening, although it was raining. Do you see why I have not spoken out about this experience before? Its not exactly a daily topic and it sounds unbelievable, however, I am speaking the truth, and I doubt I will ever know what happened.

[chillzero]

It sounds crazy! If we had not witnessed this, I would say its a lot of baloney! The girl answered her mobile, the person calling me had actually phoned me on my mobile number, somehow the call went to her phone??, and the person who called asked to speak to me thinking it was my daughter who answered! I was then handed her mobile to take a call which was supposed to be on my mobile.

How did this stranger find you to give you the call?

Why would she not just say "Wrong number, sorry" and hang up, like any reasonable human would do?

I think you had a vivid dream, to be honest.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

How did this stranger find you to give you the call?

Why would she not just say "Wrong number, sorry" and hang up, like any reasonable human would do?

I think you had a vivid dream, to be honest.

Wish it was a dream. I have 5 people as witnesses. The person called me thinking he was calling my mobile, the girl who answered the call on her mobile was a friend of my daughter who stopped by that morning. He asked for me by name, that is what caused the confusion and still does to this day. He called me to my mobile no and the call came through on her mobile, naturally being in my home she brought the phone to me as the caller asked for me by name.

[chillzero]

So, not a stranger after all.

Well... you mention you were in bed at the time, so dreaming is really an option when it comes to this 'web' that was so odd yet no-one thought to keep a piece, or photograph it, or anything. (Or maybe the kids were playing with silly string / spray snow, and just didn't own up. ;))

As for the phonecall, we all know technology isn't infallible, so I don't know if calls can accidentally route to a nearby phone instead. How close is your number to hers? Perhaps he thought he had dialled correctly, but got a number similar to yours, which happened to be this girl's? I've had that happen when we bought a couple of phones at the same time for family / friends - the last digits are the only ones that differ.

[Fiona]

I am also confused.

1.Who was the person who phoned?
2.Why do you call him a stranger if he asked for you by name?
3.What were the two mobile numbers?
4.What is the relevance of the artist saying he would travel to see you? You include this without making any overt connection yet the implication is that it was important in some way. You also say "Travel in my mind was either going by car, train or plane... ". You seem to be smuggling in the idea that a. he did travel:b. he did so by unusual means: c. he was in some way involved in this incident. Can you be more explicit about your ideas, please?
5.Did the web appear after the girl brought you her phone? It was not there when she knocked on your door,I assume, so what is the time interval?
6.How do you know you were all asleep? Indeed given the web was not there when the girl entered your bedroom, and was afterwards it seems very unlikely
7. Given your children's friends arrived very early and unexpectedly how can you be sure your children were not playing an elaborate hoax on you?
8..You say you just moved to a new home and a new country. Can this have an effect on phones? I do know that I have sometimes phoned a number on a landline and got someone else entirely - not many digits in common and when I apologise and try again it happens again. I have no idea how this happens nor whether mobile phones can do the same thing

[Janot]

I am even more confused now. Look, if you are any kind of sceptic, why didn't you or somebody keep a part of the web as proof that something weird had happened? I mean, physical evidence is needed here, otherwise one could conclude the whole thing was just a confused dream.

[bobdezon]

some mobile phones automatically add an incoming phone number to the list (internal phonebook) That might be why she had his number on her phone maybe?

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Hi Fiona,
I have replied to you in blue.


I am also confused.

1.Who was the person who phoned? A car dealer
2.Why do you call him a stranger if he asked for you by name? As he isn't a friend or member of my family
3.What were the two mobile numbers? one started with 083 which was mine, hers was with 082, two different mobile servers
4.What is the relevance of the artist saying he would travel to see you? When one writes poetry and another paints for an anthology of poetry, in order to get the book right, one has to meet at some point in order to put paintings with words, get the feel of each other as artists You include this without making any overt connection yet the implication is that it was important in some way. To work on the book and paintings instead of scanning, emailing and faxing etc. You also say "Travel in my mind was either going by car, train or plane... ". You seem to be smuggling in the idea that a. he did travel:b. he did so by unusual means: c. he was in some way involved in this incident. Can you be more explicit about your ideas, please? Traveling as in what I expressed which is the normal way, however, it was something that he mentioned on the last contact we had, that he had been there! Been where I asked, he just replied, I have been there!! I had no further contact with him, his line was disconnected for some reason.
5.Did the web appear after the girl brought you her phone? According to my children it was there, because it was them that brought the webbing to my attention, once I had fully opened the door, it was like walking into a spiders web, it hung down. It was not there when she knocked on your door,I assume, so what is the time interval? Yes it was there. They came into our home, the phone rang as she walked down the passage and the caller asked for my name, she told my daughter and they came into my room
6.How do you know you were all asleep? We were awoken by the doorbell, and my children let their friend inside Indeed given the web was not there when the girl entered your bedroom, and was afterwards it seems very unlikely it was there before and after, however, me leaving my bedroom brought more attention to it, as we flicked the lights on and saw it was on the ceiling as well, mostly by my bedroom's door, nothing inside my room
7. Given your children's friends arrived very early and unexpectedly how can you be sure your children were not playing an elaborate hoax on you? My children are not the kind to play elaborate hoaxes on me, which did cross my mind, but when I saw the confusion and surprise on all their faces, no this wasn't a hoax at all, to this day we still wonder what it could be
8..You say you just moved to a new home and a new country. Can this have an effect on phones? I have no idea! I do know that I have sometimes phoned a number on a landline and got someone else entirely - not many digits in common and when I apologise and try again it happens again. this does happen I have no idea how this happens nor whether mobile phones can do the same thing Once again I have no idea at all, I know of wrong numbers being dialled to land lines, and to mobiles, but this was not a wrong number. The car salesman dialled my mobile and it was answered on the girl's mobile.. It remains a mystery to this day. I at times wonder if something supernatural happened, but I am NOT a believer and can't find any info on anything like this. I like to research but to date have no indication from anything what this was and could be. I understand you will have a million whys, I don't have a million answers. I have honestly quoted what truly happened and wish that someone can shed light on this.

What other site would you recommend I post this on? My husband suggested I post it on here, hoping some light can be shed on this.
Perhaps you will understand why one doesn't speak of such strange experiences, it is very unbelievable, but believe me, I will not suck this out of my thumb. It's not a joke.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

I am even more confused now. Look, if you are any kind of sceptic, why didn't you or somebody keep a part of the web as proof that something weird had happened? I mean, physical evidence is needed here, otherwise one could conclude the whole thing was just a confused dream.

My kids just wanted to get rid of it. I called my Mum and my Sister, both said just throw it away and that its a strange thing to have happened. Also blamed my children, who really did nothing. My family is very religious, and I got told think no more of it. Well, for years I didn't until now when I thought perhaps there may be someone who also had the same experience as we did.

If you are confused, imagine how confused we were that morning! My friend seems to think its got to do with some kind of energy and that the children coming into the house had disturbed it. What is that energy? She can't tell me!! She doesn't know! So its now become the main topic of conversation!! We are assuming what if it's this or that... Your help to solve this is greatly appreciated.

[Fiona]

Your daughter and her friend walked through this as they entered the bedroom, it seems. Did it break? or resist? I am afraid I do not really know what you mean when you say it was like silicone, so I cannot picture it.

I understood why the artist was to travel, but what I am confused about is what is the relevance to the other events. Now you say he said "I have been there" but without a context I cannot see why you connect him with this at all. Sorry if I am being dense

[bobdezon]

My family is very religious, and I got told think no more of it. Well, for years I didn't until now


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Thats what I love about the religious element ::)

Its good that your now questioning your experience though. Incidentally your friend who insisted it was "disturbed energy" is just repeating crap shes seen on TV. It has no basis in facts. Good job you caught that and did not accept that explanation.

[DrS]

... artist some 1200 miles away from where we were residing at that time. He was to paint pictures of what my poetry was based on. Bear with me, as I need you to know a short background ... Strangely, after that morning, the artist became withdrawn and eventually we lost contact. Why?

In for a penny, you clearly connect the artist with the phone call in some way, and seem also to think it had something to do with eventually losing contact with him.

Do you think the artist "made contact" (or travelled) in some way through that phone call? Do you perhaps think that this is what accounts for the strange events, like it being a car dealer calling you on your daughter's friend's phone rather than yours, and of course the cobwebs.

I'm just trying to understand what you think, here, because you are making connections that I don't see.

[ohp]

The phone thing - these are some things you have to eliminate:

1) The caller was lying about dialling the wong number, and knew the person he was actually calling lived nearby. Some people do wierd things, especially if they think they might make a sale.

2) The numbers were similar enough for a mis-dial. There must be thousands of misdialled calles every year, and every now and again, one may be close enough to the actual intended recipient to be known by the actual recipient.

3) The sim cards were switched in the phones. Were both phones locked to their respective networks?

4) your phone was diverted to the other phone.

5) The phones were similar, and had been acidentally switched.

6) If they weren't similar, perhaps they were when they had been switched, and the other had an upgraded phone.

7) The phones were similar, you'd picked up the wrong phone earlier after it had been left around in your house, and dialled the car dealer, and he'd dialled back using the caller id, rather than the number he had on file.

8) The dealer had rung the home phone number, and you weren't in, and when the person that answered the phone was asked for an alternative mobile number, they'd given the wrong mobile number because it was a number they'd dialled more, and they'd got them mixed up (I once gave my bosses phone number instead of my own to someone in a moment of absent mindedness)

9) someone had diverted your home number to the recipient of the call to recieve an important call for a temporary basis, and had forgotten to cancel the divert.

10) There was a bug in the software of the recieving base station that assigned the call to the incorrect phone that was registered with the base station.

11) someone was playing with the phone base station at the time of the call


The trick to finding out what happened is to make no assumptions. Don't disregard options because they seem silly, or you don't think a person would do that. It'll probably end up being a mundane explanation.


I would imagine you can cross some of them out straight away (eg, if you didn't give out your home number)

[lara123]

and i thought my experiences were strange at times..:smiley:
was the web wet/dry,warm/cold...sticky??/

[InForAPennyInForApound]

The phone thing - these are some things you have to eliminate:

1) The caller was lying about dialling the wong number, and knew the person he was actually calling lived nearby. Some people do wierd things, especially if they think they might make a sale.

2) The numbers were similar enough for a mis-dial. There must be thousands of misdialled calles every year, and every now and again, one may be close enough to the actual intended recipient to be known by the actual recipient.

3) The sim cards were switched in the phones. Were both phones locked to their respective networks?

4) your phone was diverted to the other phone.

5) The phones were similar, and had been acidentally switched.

6) If they weren't similar, perhaps they were when they had been switched, and the other had an upgraded phone.

7) The phones were similar, you'd picked up the wrong phone earlier after it had been left around in your house, and dialled the car dealer, and he'd dialled back using the caller id, rather than the number he had on file.

8) The dealer had rung the home phone number, and you weren't in, and when the person that answered the phone was asked for an alternative mobile number, they'd given the wrong mobile number because it was a number they'd dialled more, and they'd got them mixed up (I once gave my bosses phone number instead of my own to someone in a moment of absent mindedness)

9) someone had diverted your home number to the recipient of the call to recieve an important call for a temporary basis, and had forgotten to cancel the divert.

10) There was a bug in the software of the recieving base station that assigned the call to the incorrect phone that was registered with the base station.

11) someone was playing with the phone base station at the time of the call


The trick to finding out what happened is to make no assumptions. Don't disregard options because they seem silly, or you don't think a person would do that. It'll probably end up being a mundane explanation.


I would imagine you can cross some of them out straight away (eg, if you didn't give out your home number)

Hi ohp, thanks for your posting. Kindly read my response to Fiona's questions.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

and i thought my experiences were strange at times..:smiley:
was the web wet/dry,warm/cold...sticky??/

The web thing was white, thin like cotton some areas a little thicker, and was not that sticky, it didn't cling to the plastic bag which we used to throw it away in. It is something I nor my children have ever witnessed or seen before. This was weird.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

In for a penny, you clearly connect the artist with the phone call in some way, and seem also to think it had something to do with eventually losing contact with him.

Do you think the artist "made contact" (or travelled) in some way through that phone call? Do you perhaps think that this is what accounts for the strange events, like it being a car dealer calling you on your daughter's friend's phone rather than yours, and of course the cobwebs.

I'm just trying to understand what you think, here, because you are making connections that I don't see.

Hi DrS, Thanks for your posting and welcome. I have not connected the artist to making the phone call, as it was made by someone else. My friend mentioned disturbed energy, by some force, however, I don't take such things seriously at all. However, I am still looking for answers to this strange and weird experience. I don't know what to think after all these years and assume when someone does tell one I have been there, then after that makes themselves as scarce as possible and one looses contact with them, made me wonder why, and the connection my friend keeps bringing up, but I need to find out if someone ever had this same experience, or where I can post this to find answers!

My mobile was on the table in my bedroom, the house line was free, it did not ring, the mobile which did ring was that of the friend. The car salesman, who knew nothing of what I discovered after the phone call, neither was he aware of his call coming through onto someone else's mobile. There was confusion as to why this happened, as the girls phone rang when she walked down the passage towards the bedrooms. My mobile did not ring!
I know this sounds far fetched, but believe me if I could take a lie detector test to prove how true it is, I would! I am not deluded, but a well adjusted and educated adult. This is something until now, I can't explain and truly wish to understand this strange happening. It is strange to me as well, thats why I have posted it on here to try and find out more about that white webbing. I have received responses on how calls can go to another mobiles. The oddity is the call which was supposed to come through on my mobile didn't and secondly the white webbing cotton like strands...

I am looking for answers which I guess I probably won't find. Even Lara123 says its worse than her experiences :-[ I was hoping she would enlighten us all!!

What I have answered is what happened and replied to best I can based on that morning.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

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Thats what I love about the religious element ::)

Its good that your now questioning your experience though. Incidentally your friend who insisted it was "disturbed energy" is just repeating crap shes seen on TV. It has no basis in facts. Good job you caught that and did not accept that explanation.

The link didn't open. My family are very strict religious wise, and if anything odd happens, its a case of forget about it, don't talk about it, don't question etc. etc. If it's not in the Bible its not relevant. My children and I were ostracized because of this "happening" and really told off and even my motherhood was condemned. I guess for this reason I distanced myself from them..

All I did was wake up that morning and never asked for this crazy thing to happen, but it did! I am asking has anyone heard of this before and what logical reason there is to it? My friend is a wonderful caring person, however, she does tend to get a little carried away, but that's what makes her, her! I did sell up shortly after that and returned to my adopted country. Nothing has ever happened to us like that here! Perhaps UKS wasn't the site to post it on and find answers. I would like to know more about this. I was not dreaming!

[ZERO]

The post by ohp shows how much can go wrong with mobile phone technology.

I think the web substance is much more interesting.
What country did this happen in? Perhaps it was an exotic spider.
Was it the first morning you spent in the house?
Had the house spent some time unoccupied before you stayed there?
Was the dwelling in the middle of a built up area or near forest?
Were the doors locked that night?
Anything else you think might be relevant about the enviroment at the time?

[InForAPennyInForApound]

The post by ohp shows how much can go wrong with mobile phone technology.

I think the web substance is much more interesting.
What country did this happen in? Perhaps it was an exotic spider.
Was it the first morning you spent in the house?
Had the house spent some time unoccupied before you stayed there?
Was the dwelling in the middle of a built up area or near forest?
Were the doors locked that night?
Anything else you think might be relevant about the environment at the time?

Yes, I thought ohp gave a good posting re phones and what can go wrong.
It's the web-like thing that gave us the creeps. This happened down at the eastern coast of South Africa. The condo was situated high on top of a mountain overlooking the harbour and beaches. It was the start of our 3rd month there. The house was occupied before by its previous owners. Once they had moved out, I installed the best security technology in securing a home against crime and unwanted entrances. The house was thoroughly cleaned before we moved in. There was a valley between the two mountains with a river separating the two mountains. The forest was 5 miles from our home. The doors, security gates were locked plus the security alarm system was always activated before we slept each night.
I sold the place shortly after that. We never had another experience like that ever again.

[ohp]

Hi ohp, thanks for your posting. Kindly read my response to Fiona's questions.

I had read your responses before I made the post. Is there anything in particular you were wanting to draw my attention to?

What I'd like to know is: were the numbers similar in any way? did the car dealer have your home phone number? did the owner of the phone that rang spend much time in your house? What kind of phone network was it - digital or analogue?

Personally, I think the most likely explanation is a hoax, and perhaps the person that instigated it might be unwilling to own up to it, perhaps in light of the effect it had on you at the time.

As for the web thing, Ultimately the reason this is a mystery is that you disposed of the evidence. Had you kept the substance for analysis, this would probably have been resolved by now.

Have you spoken to everyone that was present at the time and asked them? They'll probably be able to shed more light on this than us.

[seren]

Penny,

Sorry to go back to the mobile phone thing (because I too think the web stuff is more interesting!) but I did have one case on my own phone where caller IDs and numbers got mixed up. By that I mean, when I looked up call history, under Person A's name was Person B's number, and under Person B's name was Person A's number, and if I hadn't noticed I would have just called the wrong one. It wasn't for every number in my phone, just those two. Their numbers are entirely different- in fact one's in a completely different continent. I had called them consecutively, though, but I don't know if that made any difference.

It only happened once, with my current phone. Only the call history was affected- if I went into the phonebook itself they were listed correctly. I switched it off and back on again, and it was fine. I just assumed it was a slight glitch in the programming of the thing and always double check when I use it now. Hasn't happened again.

So I would consider ohp's response to contain plenty of logical reasons why what happened with the phone could have happened. You don't seem to like his/her explanations- what other kind of ideas were you looking for?

A quick Google found the following claims on Snopes discussion board from 2001:



A strange thing happened to me...

This weekend, the phone rang, and the number on caller ID was my wife's cell phone. Nobody there. I redialed the number, and got someone with a different cell phone, in a different area code!

I was sufficiently weirded out not to inquire as to who she was, or what her actual phone number was. (But that may have been nosey)

So, these things CAN happen!


But talking about crossed wires, the phone company guy (who is also my DSL ISP. The company, not the guy) came to switch something in the phone box downstairs to allow me to get DSL. Somehow, he crossed my line with someone else's, who lived about 2 blocks away. People calling me would end up talking with the other guy. And vice versa.

So it was an evening of: "You can't reach him for tonight, our wires are crossed. Or try dialing my number." Annoyingly weird.

For a while (about 2 years back), our phone line and a neighbor's from three streets away were somehow linked together. A number of times we'd get a call when they were on the line, or vice-versa. Once they were stuck on my modem, although they sounded like the adults on Charlie Brown cartoons (wah wahp wha wahpwahpwhaa).

That was not quite as bad as the time (even farther back) when our phone was picking up the nearby AM polka radio station. Not much fun trying to listen over rather loud polka music, all the while trying to convey the "no, that is not our stereo and we can't turn it down" message.

At least you didn't get polka music, eh?

[Fiona]

It is clear this incident made a big impact on you,(though it does occur to me to wonder why now) and since it was a long time ago and you destroyed the evidence, it is very unlikely this will ever be resolved. What I do think is that you have made 3 separate occurrences into one in your mind, and this has made it seem much more disturbing that it needs to be.

The phone is not inexplicable. It is unusual, but not unheard of as OHP and Seren have shown

The artist seems to me to be wholly irrelevant.

The web is not open to us to explain because we have no sample. I do not think it is incapable of rational explanation in terms of hoax or whatever but we are not going to be able to sort it out because there is no evidence to base a conclusion on

Coincidence happens.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

I had read your responses before I made the post. Is there anything in particular you were wanting to draw my attention to? You are very knowledgeable about the phone calls etc. Does this happen very often that a call meant for me would come through on another mobile? Under the same roof, but intended for different receiver?

What I'd like to know is: were the numbers similar in any way? The only thing in common with the numbers were they started with 08. did the car dealer have your home phone number? No. did the owner of the phone that rang spend much time in your house? This may have been her 3rd or 4th visit What kind of phone network was it - digital or analogue? I can't tell you sorry, all I know it was a mobile network, two different ones. MTN and Vodacom.

Personally, I think the most likely explanation is a hoax, and perhaps the person that instigated it might be unwilling to own up to it, perhaps in light of the effect it had on you at the time. She was very shaken up by this, I doubt it was a hoax! She kept on repeating why and how did that happen! We were all shocked. I do not see how it can be a hoax. For this reason I have posted this on here to get insight on what that webbing is.

As for the web thing, Ultimately the reason this is a mystery is that you disposed of the evidence. Had you kept the substance for analysis, this would probably have been resolved by now. Its been 6 years, plus we live in another country. My son and daughter felt it should be thrown away immediately, as we really don't know what it is. I saw no reason at that time to keep it, as everyone just said throw it away. They were quite frightened, you know what late teenagers are like, superstitious in a way, they saw it as freaky.

Have you spoken to everyone that was present at the time and asked them? They'll probably be able to shed more light on this than us. We, 5 of us, all discussed it over coffee after we took the strands/webbing down. This girl was visibly shaken, my children and I completely taken aback at such a thing. I can offer no further explanation for this, I wish I could... My replies will be the same over and over.. there is nothing more to tell. The odd thing was, the car salesman's no only showed up on her mobile, although she knew nothing about the pending business deal. It did not appear on my mobile. I still don't get any of this, why or how it happened. If I had not witnessed this myself, being sane and responsible, oh and sober, I will agree it sounds ridiculous and that it could be a hoax or some silly game played on me. It wasn't.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

It is clear this incident made a big impact on you,(though it does occur to me to wonder why now) and since it was a long time ago and you destroyed the evidence, it is very unlikely this will ever be resolved. What I do think is that you have made 3 separate occurrences into one in your mind, and this has made it seem much more disturbing that it needs to be.

The phone is not inexplicable. It is unusual, but not unheard of as OHP and Seren have shown

The artist seems to me to be wholly irrelevant.

The web is not open to us to explain because we have no sample. I do not think it is incapable of rational explanation in terms of hoax or whatever but we are not going to be able to sort it out because there is no evidence to base a conclusion on

Coincidence happens.

Hi Fiona,

I agree with you that postings from OHP and Seren have given us good insight into what happens with phones. What started this whole thing again, was a discussion with my friend and my husband, and one had more stranger reasons for why it happened! Based on what they were saying and what I believe is 3 different issues. Therefore, thinking ok, seeing we have all kinds of visitors on UKS, I will post it on here and hope to get a some insight into it.

Like you said, there is no evidence, although in all 5 of us, its embedded in our minds. My daughter is a solicitor and son a architect, and they still open the subject when we get together. My son especially was queasy about it. We hate spiders, and believe me, we vacuumed that condo and ceilings, walls everywhere just in case it was something we were not aware of. It was the weirdest sighting! I doubt I will ever know!! I agree it sounds like a nut case's story, but I am seriously a sane responsible person!!

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Penny,

Sorry to go back to the mobile phone thing (because I too think the web stuff is more interesting!) but I did have one case on my own phone where caller IDs and numbers got mixed up. By that I mean, when I looked up call history, under Person A's name was Person B's number, and under Person B's name was Person A's number, and if I hadn't noticed I would have just called the wrong one. It wasn't for every number in my phone, just those two. Their numbers are entirely different- in fact one's in a completely different continent. I had called them consecutively, though, but I don't know if that made any difference.

It only happened once, with my current phone. Only the call history was affected- if I went into the phonebook itself they were listed correctly. I switched it off and back on again, and it was fine. I just assumed it was a slight glitch in the programming of the thing and always double check when I use it now. Hasn't happened again.

So I would consider ohp's response to contain plenty of logical reasons why what happened with the phone could have happened. You don't seem to like his/her explanations- what other kind of ideas were you looking for?

A quick Google found the following claims on Snopes discussion board from 2001:









At least you didn't get polka music, eh?

Yeah you right ;D no polka or even Elvis Presley music!! I guess I was lucky there!! Shew!!

I am very impressed with each person's discussions/posts on here, especially OHP's and Seren's, even Fiona, all of you are trying to help me make some form of sense out of this. I really appreciate all posting and your comments on here, thank you!

[lara123]

no,no,penny , i didnt say it was 'worse' than my experiences,i said '..and i thought my experiences were strange..'.This is something ive never heard of before or read about.The only thing worth mentioning ,maybe!,is i often 'feel' cobwebs around me,and have to wipe them off..they feel like strands,but i cannot see them.I know this to be spirit energy.A possibility is...this spirit energy manisfested itself into physical reality.And it is possible....

'

[Cuddles]

4) your phone was diverted to the other phone.

Just to add to the boring phone things. My mobile used to turn call divert on quite often without me telling it to. I had never even set call divert up, so there was nowhere for it to actually divert calls to. I still recieved some calls, but I have no idea if there were others being diverted to random other phones.

you know what late teenagers are like, superstitious in a way, they saw it as freaky.

I disagree. Your children might have been superstitious, but that is by no means a general property of teenagers, especially not late ones.

[ohp]

Some things here just don't sit right...

On the subject of the phone:
"My children's friends came over for what reason still vague to us to this day"

Did your childrens friends often come over? Is it vague because they came round a lot of the time, or because they were evasive about the reason they were there?

With respect to the web stuff:
"My kids just wanted to get rid of it."

I was fascinated by unidentified substances when I was a kid. Were they eager not to even get a sample? Very suspicious.

[Allo Allo]

Just in for a quick squizz to see what you guys are discussing - and reading the posts in this thread made me remember a weird thing. We also lived on the east coast of South Africa near virgin "bush" (forest) and once when we arrived back from a holiday in the UK, we found the whole interior of our house decorated with white spiderwebby stuff. It festooned the walls and hung off the edges of door frames, the tables and chairs like wide lace - absolutely revolting! Our house had been closed up. On close examination we decided it must be some kind of thready fungus. I also "went off" my house after that.

[MischiefMonkey]

Just in for a quick squizz to see what you guys are discussing - and reading the posts in this thread made me remember a weird thing. We also lived on the east coast of South Africa near virgin "bush" (forest) and once when we arrived back from a holiday in the UK, we found the whole interior of our house decorated with white spiderwebby stuff. It festooned the walls and hung off the edges of door frames, the tables and chairs like wide lace - absolutely revolting! Our house had been closed up. On close examination we decided it must be some kind of thready fungus. I also "went off" my house after that.

I was thinking fungus. Or some particularly prolific spider. Maybe the Baboon Spider (http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2002/november/baboon.htm) Big fella, bet it spins a fair web.

[seren]

Curiouser and curiouser....


Mr. Koos du Toit from the farm Henopskraal [in South Africa] has this past week shown to the Rapport newspaper where the fine fibres of the sticky, cotton-like substance have become stuck to the bushes and fences on his farm. Recent rain has washed away some of these fibres but he says he is confident that the debris will again start falling to the ground from the air, as has been the case for the past month.

23 July 2000.


From here: http://www.rense.com/general2/sticky.htm

[Allo Allo]

That's an interesting link Seren! Mmmm.

My spiderwebby stuff was inside my house - I forgot to add was not sticky - and it was February in excessively humid sub-tropical conditions. And ten years ago. Frankly, it never occurred to us it could be a large spider - no - but a fungus - yes.

[bobdezon]

The link didn't open. My family are very strict religious wise, and if anything odd happens, its a case of forget about it, don't talk about it, don't question etc. etc. If it's not in the Bible its not relevant. My children and I were ostracized because of this "happening" and really told off and even my motherhood was condemned. I guess for this reason I distanced myself from them..

All I did was wake up that morning and never asked for this crazy thing to happen, but it did! I am asking has anyone heard of this before and what logical reason there is to it? My friend is a wonderful caring person, however, she does tend to get a little carried away, but that's what makes her, her! I did sell up shortly after that and returned to my adopted country. Nothing has ever happened to us like that here! Perhaps UKS wasn't the site to post it on and find answers. I would like to know more about this. I was not dreaming!

Im sorry, but If I was in your situation I would remove me and my family from that backward situation and move somewhere far more tolerant and enlightened. That type of thing should only happen to the phelps's and certain cults. It is unhealthy both physically and mentally to live under that type of peer pressure. It is my opinionn that a parent should raise a child, and not a soldier for god.

[bobdezon]

Curiouser and curiouser....




23 July 2000.


From here: http://www.rense.com/general2/sticky.htm

Sounds like the substance they call "angel hair"

[MischiefMonkey]

Sounds like the substance they call "angel hair"

Is that a fungus? Or can you find a reference?

Not that I'm planning how to out do No 52 next Hallow'en. No, not at all.

[bobdezon]

http://www.subversiveelement.com/SkyFallsAngelHair.html

Lots of different explanations, I quite agree with the ballooning spiders one. Some claim its left by propulsion systems of UFOs etc, quite daft but it apparantly does exist.

[MischiefMonkey]

http://www.subversiveelement.com/SkyFallsAngelHair.html

Lots of different explanations, I quite agree with the ballooning spiders one. Some claim its left by propulsion systems of UFOs etc, quite daft but it apparantly does exist.

Good reference. Thanks Bob. :smiley:

[bobdezon]

no problem mate.

[Fiona]

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byauth/nyberg/spore.html

Don't know if that is any help but
. What is Mold? And Where Does It Come From? Mold is a type of fungus. It grows on surfaces in masses of branching threads which resemble dense cobwebs. The fertile threads, those which produce spores, often stand up from the surface into the air to release their spores.


Struck me when I read it

[DrS]

Some of the molds commonly found in library and archival collections can cause serious health problems including respiratory infections, headaches, nausea, and eye and skin irritation. Thankyou for this; it explains everything I felt for years in the library at work.

In terms of this thread, is there any clue for how quickly it could spread, because it seems to have formed huge webs just overnight.

[ZERO]

Thankyou for this; it explains everything I felt for years in the library at work.

In terms of this thread, is there any clue for how quickly it could spread, because it seems to have formed huge webs just overnight.
So I guess the questions to ask now are:
What were the climate conditions like at the time?
A long period of rain?
Very humid?
Anything unusual in this regard?
Also
Was there any smell at the time that was unusual?

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Some things here just don't sit right...

On the subject of the phone:
"My children's friends came over for what reason still vague to us to this day"

Did your childrens friends often come over? Is it vague because they came round a lot of the time, or because they were evasive about the reason they were there?

With respect to the web stuff:
"My kids just wanted to get rid of it."

I was fascinated by unidentified substances when I was a kid. Were they eager not to even get a sample? Very suspicious.

We are not eager to inspect anything that is web like or what may be considered a web from a spider, we are all afraid of spiders, having walked into a web as a child, it freaked me out. My kids are the same, they hate spiders or anything to do with them, webs and all! We did inspect it by looking up at it and once it had been taken down, we look at it again, after that, no one wanted to look at it and it was thrown away..

My home has always been home to other children, my children's friends are always popping in and out at odd times, its an accepted thing in our way of life, we do not see anything odd about that. These young people prefer to stay for long chats and drink coffee rather than go out drinking and drugging. I have always encouraged my children to entertain their friends at our home, that way I can see who they are associating with.

I do not see any vague reason why friends can't pop over whenever they wish too, its the way of life there and no one thinks its strange. No reason is needed for young people visiting their friends other than a want to visit I suppose or chill out.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Thankyou for this; it explains everything I felt for years in the library at work.

In terms of this thread, is there any clue for how quickly it could spread, because it seems to have formed huge webs just overnight.

I have seen those huge webs that do form overnight by certain spiders out in the bushes, open areas of land and on farms, as I grew up on a farm. They are more spooky after dew has settled on them, but also very sparkling when the first rays of sun are upon them. I have no idea how it spreads so quickly but its not known as a fungus, we were always told it was spiders webs, and upon close inspection my dad would point out with a stick at the nests and eggs enclosed in this web. I do not say this is the same as the farmer from South Africa witnessed. But its impressive sights and is often seen driving out to Cape Town way along the garden route.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

http://www.subversiveelement.com/SkyFallsAngelHair.html

Lots of different explanations, I quite agree with the ballooning spiders one. Some claim its left by propulsion systems of UFOs etc, quite daft but it apparantly does exist.

Thanks for this posting Bob. Never heard of angel hair, found the posting interesting. Ballooning spiders I know about, and believe that, O0 but I doubt very much we were visited by aliens and UFOs.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

no,no,penny , i didnt say it was 'worse' than my experiences,i said '..and i thought my experiences were strange..'.This is something ive never heard of before or read about.The only thing worth mentioning ,maybe!,is i often 'feel' cobwebs around me,and have to wipe them off..they feel like strands,but i cannot see them.I know this to be spirit energy.A possibility is...this spirit energy manisfested itself into physical reality.And it is possible....

'

Hi Lara,
Phrasing thats all! But it brought out from you exactly what my friend was saying. She believes it was an energy caused by a astral traveller and the children disturbed it, thus causing the energy to manifest itself into something like this white web like stringy thread thing. I would really like to know more about this please. My husband is also agreeing with my friend! I think its impossible, because I don't know any better about these things.
Will the members of this forum kindly bear with me while I ask Lara123 to explain herself in detail before any of us bombard her with questions. I would like to truly hear what she can tell me. Many thanks to u all for your consideration, interest and patience in posting and trying to help me understand what we experienced. Sincerely, I do appreciate you all.

[InForAPennyInForApound]

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byauth/nyberg/spore.html

Don't know if that is any help but



Struck me when I read it

Thanks Fiona, I found that informative. I think everyone should read this link you posted. O0

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Just in for a quick squizz to see what you guys are discussing - and reading the posts in this thread made me remember a weird thing. We also lived on the east coast of South Africa near virgin "bush" (forest) and once when we arrived back from a holiday in the UK, we found the whole interior of our house decorated with white spiderwebby stuff. It festooned the walls and hung off the edges of door frames, the tables and chairs like wide lace - absolutely revolting! Our house had been closed up. On close examination we decided it must be some kind of thready fungus. I also "went off" my house after that.

Eek I would have fled the house immediately!!

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Im sorry, but If I was in your situation I would remove me and my family from that backward situation and move somewhere far more tolerant and enlightened. That type of thing should only happen to the phelps's and certain cults. It is unhealthy both physically and mentally to live under that type of peer pressure. It is my opinionn that a parent should raise a child, and not a soldier for god.

I agree with you, it's for this reason I moved 5000 miles away from them, 6 years since I saw them when they waved me goodbye. They were against my divorce from my children's father, they never suffered abuse, however it was my Christian duty to endure whatever came my way! I raised these two children without their father being present. He was away playing and working in different countries. Therefore, Bollocks! I stand up for what is right for me and my children. My children are well adjusted young adults and I am very proud of them. During the summer this year, my daughter went back to see my mother, my brother-in-law had the cheek to email me and say, oh we were so surprised to see what a wonderful decent young lady your daughter turned out to be!! I wondered why on earth would they say something like that as if I had not raised my children to be respectable decent adults!! My second husband thinks the world of my children and of course of me, ;) and commends me many times at being truly a wonderful mother and person. Was it because I never forced my children into the church seats?? My family are a pain in my butt. Its best they stay down under far away from us. They never gave a damn when I was there, nor did they bother to get to know me. I left home after marriage and never returned. Its been 28 years that they saw me from time to time... but they are quick to judge! Talk about dancing and they condemn one to hell? Yet I now see in photos wine bottles grace their tables at dinner or lunch times...amazing how things do change with time, however, I have always remained, the one and only me.

[ohp]

I do not see any vague reason why friends can't pop over whenever they wish too, its the way of life there and no one thinks its strange. No reason is needed for young people visiting their friends other than a want to visit I suppose or chill out.


It was just the way you said it... "...to this day"

[InForAPennyInForApound]

It was just the way you said it... "...to this day"

A figure of speech, as my English may not come across too good at times, as I am not English! :smiley: I do try my best though!

[bobdezon]

I agree with you, it's for this reason I moved 5000 miles away from them, 6 years since I saw them when they waved me goodbye. They were against my divorce from my children's father, they never suffered abuse, however it was my Christian duty to endure whatever came my way! I raised these two children without their father being present. He was away playing and working in different countries. Therefore, Bollocks! I stand up for what is right for me and my children. My children are well adjusted young adults and I am very proud of them. During the summer this year, my daughter went back to see my mother, my brother-in-law had the cheek to email me and say, oh we were so surprised to see what a wonderful decent young lady your daughter turned out to be!! I wondered why on earth would they say something like that as if I had not raised my children to be respectable decent adults!! My second husband thinks the world of my children and of course of me, ;) and commends me many times at being truly a wonderful mother and person. Was it because I never forced my children into the church seats?? My family are a pain in my butt. Its best they stay down under far away from us. They never gave a damn when I was there, nor did they bother to get to know me. I left home after marriage and never returned. Its been 28 years that they saw me from time to time... but they are quick to judge! Talk about dancing and they condemn one to hell? Yet I now see in photos wine bottles grace their tables at dinner or lunch times...amazing how things do change with time, however, I have always remained, the one and only me.


Excellent news, I commend you. I think you did what was right for you and your children, and I am glad you have benefitted from your decision. O0

Just a quick guess, but is your family (the ones you left behind) all just waiting around for the rapture?

[lara123]

Hi penny,sometimes,when i sense a spirit,i feel like im walking into a cobweb,this feeling is as real as if i am walking into a real spiders cobweb[which i have ,several times]i feel strands of something all over my face and when i wipe them away,i can feel them coming off me,there is a slight electricity feel to them.But i cant see them.

I have no idea what it is you saw-i must admit my first reaction was a kids prank[ some type of areosol sprayed],the kids then to afraid too admit to it because you had to clear it up.I think they would of admitted it after all this time tho..maybe!

My possibility is only that -a possibility,i believe these strands i sometimes see are really there,but my vision is unable to see it.
Sounds like it may always stay a mystery.At least its a good one.:smiley:

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Excellent news, I commend you. I think you did what was right for you and your children, and I am glad you have benefitted from your decision. O0

Just a quick guess, but is your family (the ones you left behind) all just waiting around for the rapture?

Thank you Bob!

;D Amen Brother Bob!!

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Hi penny,sometimes,when i sense a spirit,i feel like im walking into a cobweb,this feeling is as real as if i am walking into a real spiders cobweb[which i have ,several times]i feel strands of something all over my face and when i wipe them away,i can feel them coming off me,there is a slight electricity feel to them.But i cant see them.

I have no idea what it is you saw-i must admit my first reaction was a kids prank[ some type of areosol sprayed],the kids then to afraid too admit to it because you had to clear it up.I think they would of admitted it after all this time tho..maybe!

My possibility is only that -a possibility,i believe these strands i sometimes see are really there,but my vision is unable to see it.
Sounds like it may always stay a mystery.At least its a good one.:smiley:

Hi Lara,

Well its a memory thats stayed in our minds all these years, and yes it is a mystery. My children always admit to things they do, I have a very strong honest relationship with them, even if they do try to trick me they laugh so much it gives their pranks away! It was most definitely not those sprays one gets.

Thank you very much for sharing this with with me and our members what you experienced. We did not experience this at all. I think I am going to take something from each person who so kindly posted on this topic and put all together to make my final conclusion. Kind regards and thanks!

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Hi penny,sometimes,when i sense a spirit,i feel like im walking into a cobweb,this feeling is as real as if i am walking into a real spiders cobweb[which i have ,several times]i feel strands of something all over my face and when i wipe them away,i can feel them coming off me,there is a slight electricity feel to them.But i cant see them.

I have no idea what it is you saw-i must admit my first reaction was a kids prank[ some type of areosol sprayed],the kids then to afraid too admit to it because you had to clear it up.I think they would of admitted it after all this time tho..maybe!

My possibility is only that -a possibility,i believe these strands i sometimes see are really there,but my vision is unable to see it.
Sounds like it may always stay a mystery.At least its a good one.:smiley:

Hi again Lara. What I would like to know about your experience, are you not afraid of these things that happen to you? Are you safe from anything happening to you? How are you protected from anything lets say, please don't quote me wrong, but what if something negative came into this experience of yours, how would you control it or protect yourself?

[ohp]

Well, I think too much time has passed. You should draw a veil over this. You shouldn't let a situation where there is no longer any solid evidence occupy your mind.... the chances are, you'd have discovered an entirely rational explanation had you kept suitable evidence - the kinda thing that would make you say "Ooooh, That's actually quite dull..."

Just take comfort that with all the possible freaky stuff that can happen, and with over 6 billion people on this planet, It's statistically likely that something wierd is going to happen to someone, sometime.

[lara123]

Hi penny,with regards to anything negative happening to me,it never has.If it ever did,i would never give another reading again and drop my interest in this field.I would hope then by doing that,i would experience no more...but if i did...im coming over to yours to hide.;D

[Dr-L-Jon]

Why did the phone call come through on a stranger's phone and not my own?

Obviously the stranger was an NWO agent, diverting your cell phone calls to his, in order to view the effects of the 'web like substance' that they had dispersed into your bedroom via Chemtrail Spreading and ELF radar waves.

In fact, he may just be a cover memory, implanted in your mind to cover the STARK horror of what actualy happened to you. Can you remember his face?

What is this white silicone web like substance and what was it doing in my home?

The 'web like substance' is in actual fact a polymorphic heuristic RNA nanobot filled retrovirus, designed to alter your DNA, to make you more compatable with their Human/Altarian hybrid breeding program. It was implanted in your home in the hope that you can help the NWO spawn a new race of hybrid drone slaves.

Even now they are pinpointing you with their satelites, homing in on the nanobots swarming through your body.

:cheesy:

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Well, I think too much time has passed. You should draw a veil over this. You shouldn't let a situation where there is no longer any solid evidence occupy your mind.... the chances are, you'd have discovered an entirely rational explanation had you kept suitable evidence - the kinda thing that would make you say "Ooooh, That's actually quite dull..."

Just take comfort that with all the possible freaky stuff that can happen, and with over 6 billion people on this planet, It's statistically likely that something wierd is going to happen to someone, sometime.

This is my conclusion after reading Lara's and all of your postings. Thanks again!! :smiley:

[InForAPennyInForApound]

Hi penny,with regards to anything negative happening to me,it never has.If it ever did,i would never give another reading again and drop my interest in this field.I would hope then by doing that,i would experience no more...but if i did...im coming over to yours to hide.;D

Hi Lara!
;D Seeing there's no time for preparation, I guess I better start digging the bunker! >:D

God forbid anything happens to you!!! Glad nothing has thus far and that you are safe. O0

[lara123]

gee.i got someone actually nice to me.:smiley:thanks! we all need nice !

[InForAPennyInForApound]

gee.i got someone actually nice to me.:smiley:thanks! we all need nice !

You welcome Lara. I treat people the way I wish to be treated! O0

[SorryImPsychic]

What I experienced 6 years ago was very weird.............. ???

Can anyone shed light on this please? I now more than ever want to know what that was.

I've just read through this whole thread (no pun intended)and symphathise with your need for an "explanation".

I think it was Seren who posted the "sticky" link which at least shows that your experience is shared by others. Within this link was some interesting info relating similar experiences to yours dating as far back as
mid 1600's.

http://www.subversiveelement.com/SkyFallsAngelHair.html

These documented cases eliminate any theories of Chemtrails/Aeroplane debris as they pre-date such technology. It further seems that any scientific analysis of this mysterious substance is near impossible because it disintigrates so quickly...

The information on phones was interesting but at the time of your experience most of this technical info may not have been applicable to your mobile phone 6 yrs ago.

Ive had many mysterious experiences with communication equipment but have found these occurances to be helpful beyond expectation.

The combination of the web and the diverted phone call is certainly alot to cope with in one go though.

[seren]

Wasn't me, twas bobdezon. And if you notice, both the 17th century references were from sources written over 100 years after the alleged incidents took place.

Not that this aids in any way the identification of the substance, but something to note.

[SorryImPsychic]

The web thing was white, thin like cotton some areas a little thicker, and was not that sticky, it didn't cling to the plastic bag which we used to throw it away in. It is something I nor my children have ever witnessed or seen before. This was weird.

Found this video on Youtube by bloke who found strange webs on lawn. In this vedeo you can detect moisture in webs - yours being inside may have been drier and free from condensation.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=xO6edz_oD1s