Joe Power - predictions.

[John Jackson]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17039405&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=tv-psychic--sally-anne-told-me-killer-s-name--name_page.html


Joe Power has made a prediction for the name of Sally Anne's killer: Stephan or Stephen White.

It's unusual for a psychic to be so specific, so unless he has some insider information (i.e. Stephen White is a police suspect) he's probably going to be wrong.

It will be interesting to see the outcome of this case.

[Muse]

Hi John I see you beat me to it! :D

Power already claims to have provided vital information with previous murder investigations regarding Lynsey Quy, Sara Payne and Helen McCourt currently in the process of being verified with the relevant police authorities.

But what I find disturbing is the mixed messages being given off by the Met. police spokesmen. In answer to the recent call to police by Sally Anne's mother to listen to spiritualist Ben Murphy they stated that they 'dealt in fact' however on this occasion they have stated 'We don't actively seek the help of psychics but we never turn down information of any sort."

No wonder we're awash with psychic detectives!

[chillzero]

I wonder what the police make of it when a potential suspect has their name splashed over the press, and is therefore warned that the police may be paying a visit, and can therefore arrange to be absent, or have an alibi before they get there.

I use the words 'potential suspect' very loosely, as I don't believe psychics can come up with this stuff unaided, but there is the potential that they picked up on a comment from the family, information in the press, or from other more direct means (i.e. direct involvement). If they are then trying to convince people that this information should be acted on, that information should be subject to the same rules that the police apply to information supplied to the public.

I think, at its worst, it gives the psychic another 'out' : "I knew all along who the perpetrator was, but he has duped the police into believing his innocence, and therefore he is still at large".

[John Jackson]

That's a good point Chilly.

If Power has used some inside information, by releasing the suspect's name he's tipped him off and compromised the police's operation.

It's always a possibility.

[Zendal Darkman]

My guess would be that the police have approached the family and asked them about ,or if they know, 'Stephen White' as (eg) they are very interested in speaking to him.

The parents in all good faith have gone straight to the psychic to try to help the police get further information.

[John Jackson]

I did a search for 'Stephen White' in and around Croydon and surprisingly only 2 names came up!

I'll be surprised if that prediction turns out to be true.

[Mojo]

There's been an arrest: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5123406.stm

The suspect is 35, so Power was 10 years out on the age. From the Mirror story
Mr Power believes the killer, who he thinks is a delivery driver aged between 24 and 26...

Apparently the DNA evidence showed that the same man had committed a sexual assault in 2001 - did Power manage to "predict" that the suspect would be found to have offended before?

[vbloke]

although it seems that the DNA screening and the Crimewatch reconstruction was responsible for the arrest, no doubt JOE POWER will claim victory (even if none of his actual predictions are true)

[John Jackson]

Another one I can stick in the commentary!

I see that we haven't learned the person's name yet, but if it's Stephen/Stefan White, I'll donate 20, no 30, no 50, Ok then £1.00 to charity.

[tkingdoll]

Another one I can stick in the commentary!

I see that we haven't learned the person's name yet, but if it's Stephen/Stefan White, I'll donate 20, no 30, no 50, Ok then £1.00 to charity.


I want it to be Stefan/Stephen White! Imagine the implications. I reckon Mr Power will be arrested, or certainly brought in for questioning. The police will certainly want to know how he knew the name of a suspected killer, and "a ghost told me" isn't going to cut it.

[John Jackson]

Actually that's a great point. O0

Either he really is psychic, or he's either been involved somehow or has actually been witholding evidence from the police he got elsewhere to pass off as being psychically gleaned.

[Mojo]

There certainly doesn't seem to be any indication that Power's "information" was what led to the arrest:

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1117238.ece It follows what is understood to be a DNA breakthrough in the case.

...

The breakthrough was said to have been the result of routine forensic checks to eliminate possible suspects.

[Mojo]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5127570.stmA 35-year-old chef has been charged with the murder of teenage model Sally Anne Bowman, who was stabbed to death in south London last September.
Mark Dixie, of no fixed address, has also been charged with indecent assault and outraging public decency in relation to an incident in 2001.

They've got the wrong man... ;)

[tkingdoll]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5127570.stmA 35-year-old chef has been charged with the murder of teenage model Sally Anne Bowman, who was stabbed to death in south London last September.
Mark Dixie, of no fixed address, has also been charged with indecent assault and outraging public decency in relation to an incident in 2001.

They've got the wrong man... ;)





OK, so Power has two options.

1) Admit he was wrong
2) Continue to claim that White is involved, perhaps as an accomplice, or police have the wrong man as you say.

Either way, I think it's really important that we get some sort of comment from him, or find any comments he makes about this. Perhaps emailing all the press who ran the story on him and asking them for comment? That could push them into contacting him for a follow-up.

[JonDonnis]

Our expert on all things Joe Power, Lester has been keeping a close eye on things.
He advised me to email Joe Powers management for an official response.

This is my email

_________________________________________________

Dear Sir/Madam

I am Mr J. Donnis from www.badpsychics.co.uk

Could i possibly have an official statement from either Joe Power or his management regarding the Sally Anne Bowman case?

On May 6th 2006, in the Daily Mirror newspaper, Joe Power stated that he had received information directly from a dead Sally Anne Bowman.
He named the killer as Stephen White, who was 24-26 and a delivery driver.

But following DNA evidence the police have today charged 35 year old Mark Dixie (A chef).

Does Joe Power stand by his original statement? Does he believe the police and the DNA evidence is wrong? Or is he prepared to admit that it was actually himself who is wrong, and if so would he liketo publicly apologise to the police for wasting their time, to the family of Sally Anne Bowman for the distress he caused, and also to every delivery driver name Stephen White who received hassle from people because of what he said?

Thank you

Mr J Donnis
www.badpsychics.co.uk

_________________________________________________

If you want to write to them or contact them for an official reply you can at
via his web site Office telephone: 020 7511 4122 or Email: claudine@powerofthe7thsign.com

[tkingdoll]

That email is a tad antagonistic, I'd be surprised if it gets a reply. Skeptics have a reputation for 'I told you so' and this just confirms it. Not that it's unjustified, the emotion in the email is what we're all, as casual bystanders, feeling, but I don't think it's the best way to go about getting a comment from Joe Power.

Still, time will tell.

[Mojo]

Skeptics have a reputation for 'I told you so' and this just confirms it. Another reason they might not reply is that the whole thing confirms psychics' reputation for not having a clue. I suspect they'll prefer to pretend it never happened.

[Physiotherapist]

Jon,

It is not totally unknown for DNA evidence to be incorrect.

In fact, there was a case of a young WPC in the UK who was wrongly convicted because of this several years ago and she has only just managed to clear her name. She nearly suffered a nervous breakdown in the process and lost her career because of it.

[John Jackson]

I think the DNA evidence in this case connects Dixie to 2 crimes, one of them is the murder of Sally Anne.

If the DNA evidence comes from semen samples (which I suspect will be true) it's going to be difficult to argue against it.

I've seen it posted around that we can't come to any conclusion as yet about Power's claims as Dixie has not been found guilty. I don't accept that. It's not a case of 'Stephen White' or 'Mark Dixie' being the murderer; with Joe Power's claims it's a case of is it 'Stephen White' or not.

If Dixie is acquitted, it lends no weight to Power's claims (other than in an 'All non-black things are non-ravens' way).