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ZERO
29th October 2007, 08:38 AM
Here is so called evidence that the solar system is not as old as science estimates.
http://www.icr.org/article/3477/

Io has erupted it's mass 40 times?
If true, it proves nothing. They ignore the concept of rock recycling. Magma spewed onto the surface gets covered by subsequent eruptions and eventually returns to the depths. Like a pump in a pond powering a fountain, constantly reusing the same water. There is no reason the process can't last 4.5 billion years.

Creationists have to ignore so much!

Maybe I'm missing the point. Is there a reasonable argument in that article?

Cuddles
29th October 2007, 11:04 AM
Ah, the old "Science can't explain every little detail of something, therefore creationism wins" argument. When it comes down to it, we don't understand volcanoes on Earth, so how would we be able to explain ones millions of miles away with only a few photos to study?

You are entirely correct about the recycling. Io completly resurfaces itself every million years or so. I'm just surprised it's only 40 times its mass and not more.

John Jackson
29th October 2007, 01:16 PM
It's the ubiquitous Argument to Ignorance (http://www.ukskeptics.com/article.php?dir=articles&article=argumentum_ad_ignorantiam.php) fallacy.

"We can't explain this, therefore our beliefs are more likely to be right". It's used extensively by people who hold 'weird' beliefs.

BTW, I doubt that scientists would accept the argument that Io's volcanic activity is not understood as implied in that article. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_%28moon%29#Tidal_Heating

MRT
29th October 2007, 01:19 PM
When all the Io observations are explained by science, what will creationists say then? Move on to the next gap in our knowledge? Why aren't they still defending the idea that the Earth is at the centre of the universe?

Matt
29th October 2007, 01:54 PM
In such God of the gaps arguments I'd like to ask believers if they know my father's name. If not why don't they bow down before me. Something that they don't know must be God's work right? So if they don't know my father's name I must be the son of God?

No I don't know why Io behaves as it does. Such avenues for exploration and discovery are exciting. Who knows what applications this new knowledge might have when we figure it out? I feel sorry for the creationists who are denied such excitement already "knowing" that the answer to all of lifes mysteries is that "God did it"

ZERO
30th October 2007, 01:08 AM
Thanks for the replies.

It seems too easy to find holes in this one.