Marion Dampier Jeans - anyone heard of her?

[Admin]

I've had an enquiry from a Danish skeptic about a self-proclaimed psychic called Marion Dampier Jeans (http://www.marion-dampier-jeans.org/about.htm).


"Nowadays Danish-born Marion is one of England's biggest and most recognized clairvoyants.

Among her customers we find both members of the british royal family, well-known politicians, world-famous actors and singers - and the Scotland Yard."She could be Britain's #1 psychic! (As they all are). ;D

I've never heard of her so I'm just wondering if anyone else has any information on her and her claims.

I notice that these Royals, politicians, etc., are not named, but she's claiming Scotland Yard is one of her customers!

So, just wondering if anyone has looked into her activities here in the UK so I can give some info back to the Danish skeptics. O0

[bobdezon]

http://silberbauer.dk/wp/2006/07/james-randi-accused-of-murder/

http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm1291801/

http://www.croydonspiritualistchurch.org.uk/bookings.htm

http://amr2you.blogspot.com/2005/05/danish-clairvoyant-has-not-applied-to.html

www.mariondampier-jeans.com (http://www.mariondampier-jeans.com)

Seems she is just another lunatic who thinks James Randi has killed someone. She writes books that are equally as bland as the rest of the books on woo. She has made a couple of appearances in Tv programmes, and she operates out of spiritualist churches. She is far from well known or famous, but then they always claim to be the best known psychic in *pick a country*. They also like to claim they had the "gift" from a very early age. Im sure these websites for psychics and mediums all come from the same template (just insert name here, specify type of woo, paypay or phone readings)

[chillzero]

I have never heard of her either, and a name like that is probably easy to remember.

:cheesy:

(damper jeans *snicker*)


Ooooo! She works with ectoplasm and victorian seances - I wonder if she's a pal of super-trumpeter Colin Fry?

[wooo_oops]

She's offering a challenge to skeptics...One million dollars to any skeptic who can rebut the evidence for the existence of the afterlife...

read it here (http://www.marion-dampier-jeans.org/scepticism.htm)

[vbloke]

she really is a http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/2564/images/2564_MEDIUM.jpg

[Julia]

Seems she is just another lunatic who thinks James Randi has killed someone. )

What with killing people, ogling kiddie porn, running an evil empire of debunkers and pretending to have a million dollars to give away, I'm amazed that Randi manages to get any work done...;)

[bobdezon]

I must had admit, I havent heard of poor old james labled as a pederast. Thats a new one on me, as I am sure it is on him too ;)

[Lord Muck oGentry]

She's offering a challenge to skeptics...One million dollars to any skeptic who can rebut the evidence for the existence of the afterlife...

read it here (http://www.marion-dampier-jeans.org/scepticism.htm)


FMG, it's Zammit again:

http://www.victorzammit.com/

Do not be alarmed by seismic events affecting your homes. These are caused by tectonic displacement of the burden of proof.

[bobdezon]

Yep, she isnt even willing to put up her own million dollars. What I find perplexing is the rules for said challenge.


The challenge' refers to the offer of one million dollars. The 'offeror' refers to Victor Zammit who is making the challenge. 'The Committee' refers to a group of people expert in afterlife evidence

Apparantly your rubuttal will go before a select commitee (and by select I mean all selected by zammit) They will decide at that point wether your rebuttal actually disproves the afterlife (and consequently exposes the judges expertise and infact entire lives work to cold hard scrutiny) These are experts in the afterlife, yet I am aware there is no such expertise, so this is a ridiculous claim. How can you be an expert in something that may or may not exist?

I strongly suspect that even if you submitted the most brilliant well researched rebuttal in thie history of mankind that this "panel of puppets" will surely rebuke your explanation. Too do otherwise would prove them all to be idiots of the higest calibre and also lose old dammit a cool million (he wont be too pleased about that now will he?)

This challenge is nonsensical, you cannot disprove a negative.

[Mojo]

FMG, it's Zammit again


Dammit (http://www.aaskolnick.com/dammit/)!

[codger]

Reading Zammit's site makes my brain bleed but after a quick shufti at it I can't see any evidence that his $1m actually exists. Perhaps it doesn't need to as the "challenge" is completely unwinnable. But at least Randi backs his challenge up with evidence that he really has the money.

And while I'm feeling grumpy anyway, why can't any of these mediums, psychics, afterlife believers etc. spell for chrissakes.

Bah!

[Julia]

I must had admit, I havent heard of poor old james labled as a pederast. Thats a new one on me, as I am sure it is on him too ;)

Nope, this old canard has been doing the rounds for years. It seems to pop up as an internet rumour whenever Randi's name is in the news. Absolute hogwash, of course, but it reveals the moral backruptcy of the woo-woos.

[bobdezon]

They can be quite insidious, Ive noticed they like to present the Love & Light face at the start of a debate. You know the type of thing

"yes of course I respect your sceptical views, but all I ask in return is you respect my belief its ok to burn evil spirits out of very young children using a curling iron".

When you crush their already fragile,nonsensical, belief with a flurry of blazing logic, lightning wit and factual evidence they turn into something quite different altogether and rabid. There is enormous backstabbing too seemingly on all levels of communication. Its just duplicitous from stem to stern.

[Aquarius]

I am astonished that such a big lady, who is so "world wide known" in Denmark - one of the proud pioneers of "Sensing Murder" itself – is indeed unknown in UK.

Quoting the Madeleine page http://portugalresident.com/portugalresident/showstory.asp?ID=19070 (http://portugalresident.com/portugalresident/showstory.asp?ID=19070)

"From the staff at HolidayTruths - UK

We are praying and praying for you Madeleine and family. May God be with you all, in every place you are searching. Please try everything, like others say, try a medium. From the UK, Marion Dampier-Jeans is world known. Make a donation site and we will donate money for her work. Everything must be tried.

Margit - N Denmark"

And Marion has surely been most helpful in police investigations.

Translating directly from http://www.liv-sjael.dk/Marion.pdf (http://www.liv-sjael.dk/Marion.pdf) :

"No, the boy was hit by a car.

For the 38 years she had been working as a psychic, again and again Marion Dampier-Jeans has proven that she has special powers. And she has helped the police several times.

Once when a mother in despair called on her in her home in Waterloo, London. Her son had died in a solo accident on his bike, and she would like to contact her deceased son.

Marion Dampier-Jeans could tell the mother that it was not a solo accident. When Marion "tuned" in on the accident, she could see that the boy had been hit by a white van.

At first the police refused, but Marion could tell the police that video recordings of the accident existed. After a long search the video tape was found, and Marion turned out to be right.

A white van had hit the boy, but unfortunately the culprit was never found because the license plate on the tape was blurred."

Unforunately, no further details are published concerning that amazing story, as usual – what a shame, indeed.



Best greetings

Mogens Winther - member of www.skeptica.dk (http://www.skeptica.dk)

[vbloke]

for such a well known psychic to be unheard of world wide can only mean one thing - she isn't and she's lying.

[bobdezon]

I assume you are mogens winther? I also see you run a sceptical danish website? perhaps you should be made aware that british police forces have stated emphatically they do not use psychics or mediums in investigations.

You might find this link interesting

http://theskepticexpress.com/uk_police_and_the_use_of_psychics.php

Could I ask if you plan to include more english translations for your sites content? I read a couple on there and they seemed quite good. Which Is why I am puzzled you seem to believe this Marion Dampier-Jeans has some real ability? It does seem at odds with that websites sceptical nature.

[Melanie]

Actually, I have heard of her, but about a decade ago. She's in the Netherlands though, isn't she? Common amongst mediums/psychics to grab the title 'International' - all it takes is one reading in a different country and they claim to be an 'International Medium'.

[ZERO]

Dammit (http://www.aaskolnick.com/dammit/)!

On that link is a claim the Hubble telescope has discovered heaven.;D:cheesy:
That people can read that and not laugh is amazing!!

[Aquarius]

<perhaps you should be made aware that british police forces have stated emphatically they do not use psychics or mediums in investigations.

<You might find this link interesting

<http://theskepticexpress.com/uk_poli...f_psychics.php (http://theskepticexpress.com/uk_police_and_the_use_of_psychics.php)


indeed – please, does anyone know if the police districts in Marions own area have been asked too ?

<Could I ask if you plan to include more english translations for your sites content? ..

thanks for the positive words - but the homepage is run by Willy Wegner.

However, I do have an English translation of a popular page concerning Marion - written by my collegue Dann Simonsen.

best regards Mogens Winther


"No connection to deceased colleague?"

Dear Willy.

You know me well enough to be aware that I don't possess any psychic abilities whatsoever. On the other hand I have never actually tried to talk with dead people - I haven't even attempted to talk with my refrigerator even though it's still among us - but so far I have assumed that if the dead were able to talk and wanted to communicate something to me, then they would probably approach me just like anybody else.

Sometimes I find it difficult enough to to grasp what many of the living are saying, and this is why I turn to you for assistance:
When you are the necromantically challenged kind of guy, you may settle for the pearls falling from the lips of those alive who claim to have the gift. And Marion Dampier-Jeans is probably the best known psychic in Denmark. I mean, she's even appeared on TV a couple of times, allegedly helping the police find murderers. On her website she announces that she would like to hear from people who can help her with information about certain dead people:

" (...) so we forget that we have a long tradtion of spirituality and that Scandinavia has clairvoyants who are just as good as the ones they have in the rest of the world.
From my website I ask all Norwegians, Swedes, Icelanders, and Greenlanders to help me find these old media who used to be here .... Who are they? Where did they come from? What were their gifts in their professions as Media or Healers? etc.

(...) Is anybody able to help me?

(...) Are there any Pictures, or maybe the film about her allegedly cheating in a test concerning spiritualism? What happened to Mrs Anna Melloni Rasmussen after this test, where did she go, does she have any children, and who are they? I would like all these questions to be answered, and I would appreciate all the help I can get, so if you have information about Mrs Anna Melloni please let me know by sending me an email.

http://www.mariondampier-jeans.com/DK-praktiskeoplysninger.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20060212074110/http:/mariondampier-jeans.com/DK-praktiskeoplysninger.)


http://www.skeptica.dk/2005/images/damp.gif
Don't get me wrong, Willy! What I mean is: If I were gifted with the ability to communicate with the deceased, I would simple ask them!

Why ask the living for all these second-hand accounts? I see the point of asking for the film, since I've never heard it mentioned that the unliving were able to handle even as technologically outdated a thing as a slide projector.

And I also see why it might be fun to hear about other people's experiences, but if that were the point, then I cannot imagine why Marion Dampier-Jeans would have to ask the living what happened to Mrs Meloni and whether or not she had any children and by whom! Why doesn't she simply ask Mrs Meloni?

Am I being unfair to Marion Dampier-Jeans, or is this whole affair actually very creepy?

And another thing, Willy: You should be capable of helping Marion D-P with accounts of Mrs Meloni! Are you able to supply Marion Dampier-Jeans and the rest of us with a couple of good links to stories about this woman? And is it true that she was once mentioned in a popular song?

Yours sincerely,
Dann Simonsen

PS The website of the Danish Broadcasting Corporation has a list of short programmes where I found this title: "The Medium Mrs Meloni (AST 1297)" The parenthesis means that the programme was produced by Anne Stentebjerg and was broadcast in December, 1997.

Answer to Dann Simonsen

If you told me that you had actually tried to talk with your refrigerator, I would never have published your letter! A refrigerator is a place to haunt when you are famished, and if it appears to answer, you probably need to talk to somebody about replacing the compressor.

It does seem odd that Marion cannot simply summon a, well, congenial colleague in the spirit world. But maybe they are not attuned to the same frequencies. Maybe she should ask for assistance from Graham Bishop's "Dr. Karl" or one of the experimental parapsychologists who claim to receive messages from the Beyond by means of EVP (electronic voice phenomena). Or how about contacting www.thespiritworld.com (http://www.thespiritworld.com), -co.uk or -net?


Well, to be earnest: Yes, Dann, I hope to be able to assist both you and Marion. I'll dapple into it, not so much into mediumistic clairvoyance - I'm as challenged as you in that field, but by employing a certain degree of shrewdness. I'll be back.

Yours sincerely,
Willy Wegner

More about psychic investigations here (but only for Scandinavians):
Fornemmelse for mord - eller blot fornemmelse for snyd? (outbind://24-000000006A5F639ECB4BA04283B8DA71C9825485E45B2600/larsen2.htm%20/%20Fornemmelse)

[bobdezon]

I see he isnt buying her claims either, he makes some good but obvious points. If she truely is a medium she could contact the deaceased and say "hey here is your grandmother, she was 89 when she died. She had a dog called charlie, she lived in newcastle, she left you her old radio in her will, she hid £876 catalogue money inside an old bible in the kitchen drawer" etc etc. Specific tracable information that doesnt require a sitter to make fit them. Yet I would imagine she talks a lot of new age waffle on why it is spossible she can do what she claims to be able to do, and if a message is forthcoming it will be vague and general and could apply to a large percentile of any population.

[Admin]

Hi, Mogens.

As you can see, I asked on here as well as in other places and no-one at all in the UK seems to know much about her and her claims at all.

Anyone would think that these psychics are prone to exaggeration! ;D

[InForAPennyInForApound]

She's offering a challenge to skeptics...One million dollars to any skeptic who can rebut the evidence for the existence of the afterlife...

read it here (http://www.marion-dampier-jeans.org/scepticism.htm)

Has she heard of the Bible, Torah and Quran? They all have one thing in common, they preach the existence of afterlife.....O0 Thats where her challenge lies!

"damp jeans" is just another prophet of doom....>:D;D;D;D;D;D>:D

[IsItcozImcool]

I've actually heard of her, and I believe that she has a gift that she was born with, same as I..! but she choose's to use's her gift but I chose not to because of people like yourself! I was born with this gift i did not ask for it and infact if you want it i'd give it to you in a heart beat... I've had many sleepless nights and seen, heard and felt things you definately would not believe!!! Things a young child should not of seen. But hey that's life or is IT!!!
Adios



I have never heard of her either, and a name like that is probably easy to remember.

:cheesy:

(damper jeans *snicker*)


Ooooo! She works with ectoplasm and victorian seances - I wonder if she's a pal of super-trumpeter Colin Fry?

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

I've actually heard of her, and I believe that she has a gift that she was born with, same as I..! but she choose's to use's her gift but I chose not to because of people like yourself! I was born with this gift i did not ask for it and infact if you want it i'd give it to you in a heart beat... I've had many sleepless nights and seen, heard and felt things you definately would not believe!!! Things a young child should not of seen. But hey that's life or is IT!!!
Adios

Do you think you might have had an overactive imagination as a child?

[IsItcozImcool]

No not really, children can have an over active imagination. So I of course thought that it could of been my imagination. But 20 years later can it really be just in my imagination?

[bobdezon]

yes, of course. however realising that, you would no longer feel "special" or "gifted". you would become normal like everyone else. for some this price is too high.

[ZERO]

It could be some type of mental disorder.

[SkepticReport]

Not so long from now, Marion Dampier-Jeans will be more famous in Denmark than she cares to be....(sound of evil laughter)

[Nasib]

I've heard of her, and seen her in action. This is what I wrote about her elsewhere (although didn't know her name at the time) :

About 20 years ago having a discussion with a friend about mediums and the like, a work colleague of my friend joined the discussion, saying what a load of b......t these mediums talked, frauds, cons, tricking gullible people etc. His father had died 9 months previous and as far as he was concerned his father was dead, gone, and that was it. As he'd never been to a medium himself, I suggested that perhaps he'd like to come to a demonstration & see for himself what they do, and THEN he could give his opinions, if he still believed that way afterwards then at least he was talking about something he'd experienced himself.
He agreed to come with me one day to SAGB where they hold demonstrations every evening "Yeah, be a great laugh" When we got there I was surprised that we had to pay £7 entrance instead of the usual £5, and when I asked why they said because there's a visiting medium tonight.
When we went into the room where usually there'd be a handful of people from about 10 to 20, the whole place was packed to bursting point, with people standing at the back and up the aisles where not enough chairs. And when the medium came out I instantly recognised as a medium (from Denmark) who had been on Terry Wogan show on tv about 2 weeks before. Terry had been his usual dry jovial self & had been subtly taking the p--- out of her.
She started straight into the messages and wow! this woman was amazing. The clear detailed info she was giving was incredible to listen to. Third person she came to was to "yer man" sitting beside me. Immediately told him she had his father who had passed less than a year ago & described accurately how he had passed & so many other details she was passing on to him, even gave the area of Liverpool that he came from. Every single thing she gave him he rebuffed, and with every "gentle" nudge I dug into him whispering out loud to me Oh, she can easily guess my dad's dead, how many people here who's fathers are dead, guess that he died of an illness, guess that his favourite tipple was a certain brand of whisky, she can tell I'm a Scouser from my accent, etc etc... Anyway, she left him and went on to give the same amazing type of messages to every single person in that packed room. Although the session was supposed to be for one hour only, and the chairperson kept reminding her that we'd gone way over the time, she insisted that she didn't want anyone going away without a message. And every single person there got their own very detailed and personal message. One hour and 55 mins later she'd finished the last person. Then right at the end she said "Oh, Mr Stubborn sitting down there by the wall, I just want to say one thing to you - and she just gave him an address, a door number and a street. His mouth dropped open and he seemed visibly stunned. Told me after that that was the very address in Liverpool where he was born and lived for the first 14 years of his life. He spoke to her then on the way out to ask if he could get a private sitting with her, but wasn't possible as she was on tour and off to Italy the next day.

I can't remember that medium's name, and have never heard of her since. All I know is that she was from Denmark and had long blond hair. She was quite young then, but that was 20 years ago. I wonder if anyone else has heard of her?

[Admin]

Not so long from now, Marion Dampier-Jeans will be more famous in Denmark than she cares to be....(sound of evil laughter)

Hi, Claus. Nice to see you here. O0

Make sure to keep us informed now. >:D

[Admin]

I've heard of her, and seen her in action. This is what I wrote about her elsewhere (although didn't know her name at the time) :

[snip]


So she gave readings to everyone in a packed room and everyone got a detailed and personal message from this psychic?

She didn't get anything wrong?

I find that a teeny bit difficult to take at face value to be honest with you.

[Nasib]

So she gave readings to everyone in a packed room and everyone got a detailed and personal message from this psychic?

She didn't get anything wrong?

I find that a teeny bit difficult to take at face value to be honest with you.

Yes, I know it sounds pretty incredible, and had I not been there to witness I'm sure I'd be thinking along the same lines.
I've seen many mediums in demonstration and can discern from the good, bad and indifferent, self-deluded - even plain tricksters, but I can honestly say I've never before, or since, witnessed anything like this woman.

[SkepticReport]

Yes, I know it sounds pretty incredible, and had I not been there to witness I'm sure I'd be thinking along the same lines.
I've seen many mediums in demonstration and can discern from the good, bad and indifferent, self-deluded - even plain tricksters, but I can honestly say I've never before, or since, witnessed anything like this woman.

You don't happen to have a recording/transcript?

[Nasib]

You don't happen to have a recording/transcript?

Unfortunately, no. There was no recording.

[IsItcozImcool]

[quote=bobdezon;21819]I see he isnt buying her claims either, he makes some good but obvious points. If she truely is a medium she could contact the deaceased and say "hey here is your grandmother, she was 89 when she died. She had a dog called charlie, she lived in newcastle, she left you her old radio in her will, she hid £876 catalogue money inside an old bible in the kitchen drawer" etc etc. Specific tracable information that doesnt require a sitter to make fit them. Yet I would imagine she talks a lot of new age waffle on why it is spossible she can do what she claims to be able to do, and if a message is forthcoming it will be vague and general and could apply to a large percentile of any population.[

There is many ways a medium can use there gift, if you wanted to contact someone who has passed away. They come to you, for example whilst doing a reading, whom ever comes to that reading brings that spirit with them. You can't just say one day I want to speak to Elvis Presley and there he will be! It's not like making a phone call you know... So you need someone who is connected to a person to be able to contact them. So how I look at what Marion said "asking for people to help with information", is just her way of getting closer to that spirit. There is no easy way to explain how all of this works, and I'm not saying you should just believe in all of this, but I do think you should find out more real first hand experiences before you rule it out as be completely false!!
Adios

[bobdezon]

Anecdotal accounts mean nothing evidencewise. There has never been a single reported case to my knowlege, of a medium supplying information "they could not posibly know". Mediums are frauds, whether intentional or delusional is a matter of perspective.

If you have evidence to the contrary please feel free to supply it. :undecided:

[IsItcozImcool]

Anecdotal accounts mean nothing evidencewise. There has never been a single reported case to my knowlege, of a medium supplying information "they could not posibly know". Mediums are frauds, whether intentional or delusional is a matter of perspective.

If you have evidence to the contrary please feel free to supply it. :undecided:

I tell u what my friend, for so many years, thousands of people have tried so hard to prove its false. That's all the evidence i need! So until then i suppose we should just agree to disagree!!!
Adios Amigo:angel:

[ZERO]

I tell u what my friend, for so many years, thousands of people have tried so hard to prove its false.
For thousands of years, no one has proven it true either.


That's all the evidence i need!That is, emphatically, not evidence.


So until then i suppose we should just agree to disagree!!!
Adios Amigo:angel:Disagree all you want. It still doesn't make you right.

Can't you see the chasm in your reasoning?
Can you prove the Flying Spaghetti monster didn't create the earth.
::)

[bobdezon]

Not supplying any evidence then? :sad:

[IsItcozImcool]

Not supplying any evidence then? :sad:

Well like i said thousands of people have tried to prove it's false, without succeeding! I think witnessing a medium in action is proof enough, I know you don't think this is evidence. So i guess I'm unable to supply you with any evidence!
How about I set up a reading with Marion it won't cost you anything, and then lets see what you have to say..???
Adios

[bobdezon]

Well like i said thousands of people have tried to prove it's false, without succeeding!

This is quite a bold claim you are making, perhaps you could cite a single reference to what you are describing?


I think witnessing a medium in action is proof enough,

If you believe this proves anything other than the ability to cold read, or lie, then this is because you are gullible. If you disagree with this then feel free to cite an example where this was not so. Just one will do, providing it is not anecdotal.


I know you don't think this is evidence.

Nobody does, that is unless they are a believer, and we all know how incredibly critical of facts believers can be ;D


So i guess I'm unable to supply you with any evidence!

Unsubstantiated claim as a form of evidence? didnt expect that. ::)


How about I set up a reading with Marion it won't cost you anything, and then lets see what you have to say..???
Adios

I will definately do that, arrange that and I shall provide a full transcript of the reading for the forum members, and explain how she does what she does in a non magical way.

[chillzero]

I think witnessing a medium in action is proof enough,

Do you believe every single thing you see, without questioning?

[Nasib]

IsItcozImcool :
How about I set up a reading with Marion it won't cost you anything, and then lets see what you have to say..???
Adios



I will definately do that, arrange that and I shall provide a full transcript of the reading for the forum members, and explain how she does what she does in a non magical way.

Great! I look forward to that.

[bobdezon]

Yeah, Im looking forwards to it too. However like most mediums/psychics who agree to be tested it rarely comes to fruition. I wonder if she realises it will also appear on badpsychics.co.uk? O0

[Nasib]

Don't you think, though, that she (or he) is being rather presumptious in assuming that MD-J will agree to giving a free reading, especially under such conditions? I can't quite see it coming to fruition either.

[bobdezon]

I would assume that if this person is going to arrange the reading then they would know MJD at least, otherwise why would MJD accept an unsolicited challenge? Im looking forward to it, however many bold claims are made and nothing usually comes to fruition.

[SkepticReport]

Unfortunately, no. There was no recording.

If that is the case, how do you expect us to be convinced that she didn't get anything wrong? How is this different from any other believer in any other psychic who comes along, saying "Oh, I agree that there are fake ones out there, but this psychic is absolutely real"?

How do you discern from the good, bad, indifferent, fake?


Don't you think, though, that she (or he) is being rather presumptious in assuming that MD-J will agree to giving a free reading, especially under such conditions? I can't quite see it coming to fruition either.

She won't even give a reading if it means she has to do it under controlled conditions. She shuns skeptics.

What does that tell you?


Hi, Claus. Nice to see you here.

Make sure to keep us informed now.

Count on it. ;D

[Nasib]

Hey, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.
The question here was 'anyone heard of her?' It's the same question that I'd previously put out somewhere else (and got scant response) - and anyway, seeing her in action has already convinced one die-hard skeptic.

[Nasib]

And SkepticReport, what makes you say "she shuns skeptics"? That's not the impression I got on that day, seems to me she went out of her way to prove something to that non-believer.

[SkepticReport]

Hey, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.
The question here was 'anyone heard of her?' It's the same question that I'd previously put out somewhere else (and got scant response) - and anyway, seeing her in action has already convinced one die-hard skeptic.

I have also seen her "in action", and there is nothing she does that isn't cold reading.


And SkepticReport, what makes you say "she shuns skeptics"? That's not the impression I got on that day, seems to me she went out of her way to prove something to that non-believer.

(Skeptica is the network of Danish skeptics)


Skeptics!

Skeptika (sic) has another viewpoint, they counterprove everything and everyone, no matter what or who are in the business of the paranormal. They generally have a negative approach and a negative view, and instead of cooperating they prefer to fight - at any cost. Even those scientists and studies that have been made and where these phenomena speak for themselves.
...
The word skeptic is a person who refuses to acknowledge the knowledge that exists about the subject. There are many books one can you, and many of them are written by scientists, proffessors and other people who have made many good studies about life after death.
...
There will always be room for people who are skeptic, because we are not to believe the same, that is up to the individual being, but there must be room for good studies with a fair "resurch center" and fair people. It should not be ignorant closed people who in advance deny everything within the paranormal.
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A day will come where Randi or Skeptika (sic) will take a new angle and investigate this like most mediums have done for more than 100 years. Until then, they will always be against everything and everyone, they find most things negative, because that is what they live on - there is nothing - "only air", but if you can't see the air, does that mean you don't breathe?
Source (http://www.mariondampier-jeans.com/DK-skeptikere.htm)Atrocious grammar aside, it is blatantly clear that Marion Dampier-Jeans shuns skeptics.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

The word skeptic is a person who refuses to acknowledge the knowledge that exists about the subject.


:cheesy:

[bobdezon]

Only way to win her argument though isnt it? creating a strawman argument to garner support.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Only way to win her argument though isnt it? creating a strawman argument to garner support.

Yep, these folk don't know the difference between a logically structured argument and one without a logical basis. She's attempting to start without the logical basis, although I don't know if she could logically structure it either....

[Nasib]

So .... That seems to be that then.
I take it Ms MD-J won't be applying for Randi's Million.