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[Dr B]

Hello all

You may have noticed some ‘admin muscle’ being flexed on the two threads surrounding the delusions of one “not-so-psychic-psychic claimant”. It is my current personal view that those threads have run their course and have nothing left to offer either those involved in them, or those following the debate. Unlike the magical world of the Woo-Forum – we do not edit or remove posts – but leave the debate, in its entirety for all to see. We do not like to stifle debate – but encourage it. However, successful debate between adults can only proceed if all parties, at the very least, remain honest in their reporting of demonstrable facts. It is interesting to see some posters only contributing to the threads that are about themselves!

If you think I have been harsh then send me a PM or discuss it here and I will consider ‘releasing’ this beast of a thread back on you all…..

[bindeweede]

Hello all

You may have noticed some ‘admin muscle’ being flexed on the two threads surrounding the delusions of one “not-so-psychic-psychic claimant”. It is my current personal view that those threads have run their course and have nothing left to offer either those involved in them, or those following the debate. Unlike the magical world of the Woo-Forum – we do not edit or remove posts – but leave the debate, in its entirety for all to see. We do not like to stifle debate – but encourage it. However, successful debate between adults can only proceed if all parties, at the very least, remain honest in their reporting of demonstrable facts. It is interesting to see some posters only contributing to the threads that are about themselves!

If you think I have been harsh then send me a PM or discuss it here and I will consider ‘releasing’ this beast of a thread back on you all…..

Dr B
I agree that both of those threads had run their course, and a while ago too. Personally, I don't think you have been harsh at all - if anything, I would say extremely patient.

[bindeweede]

Oh, Psychicsarah thanks you too.:smiley:

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Dr B
I agree that both of those threads had run their course, and a while ago too. Personally, I don't think you have been harsh at all - if anything, I would say extremely patient.

Same here, we need to remember this forum is not just about her, although it was entertaining while it lasted.

[bobdezon]

I concur with your prognosis Dr B, very wise.

[Zaira]

Good move. Feel free to lock this one too (Split from psychicsarah thread). Not one of my finer moments, really don't need it dragged up again. But I leave it up to you.

[psychicsarah]

quote bind w

Dr B
I agree that both of those threads had run their course, and a while ago too. Personally, I don't think you have been harsh at all - if anything, I would say extremely patient.

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Really??

Interesting

I would say there has been some serious intimidation and bullying going on...quite insidious actually...but then you haven't been on the receiving end of it...I seem to recall being told to p**** O** not so long ago

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Oh and it is not possible to delete on here anyway; so not sure why that is included as important in Dr B's 'grand' statement....

Having said that I am grateful for the closure of some of those threads...So long as they are still there for public viewing and that the dates and times are still clearly on display

In the interests of research

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;)

[psychicsarah]

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Far side of the moon

Same here, we need to remember this forum is not just about her, although it was entertaining while it lasted.

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Who is 'she'...the cat's mother?

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Some of YOU made it about me...I just put the info up re Madeleine in the hope that it would be read and lead to 'her' being found

I did not make this personal YOU did....with respect.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

WHATEVER

Over and out ! O0

[psychicsarah]

Quote Dr B

However, successful debate between adults can only proceed if all parties, at the very least, remain honest in their reporting of demonstrable facts. It is interesting to see some posters only contributing to the threads that are about themselves!

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Gosh...who could you possibly mean?

It wouldn't be that 'someone' is attempting to counter balance the bullying, accusations and derorgatory comments which challenge her integrity would it?

Mmmm....

I personally am VERY open to adult discussion and debate (I came onto this board voluntarily if you recall)......it is just that I haven't found much of it on here...

Instead I have been diagnosed with personality disorders, told to P*** O*** and called a liar at every available opportunity (Some of you even pointed out that I had been treated very harshly)

You think you have open scientific minds? I wish you did...re this matter....

The reality is ...this is has just been a clash of the way minds work; rather than a 'meeting of minds'.

And no please do NOT open those threads again..

I am more than happy to contribute to discusions elsewhere so long as the personal asides and patronising comments stop..

As I said many of YOU made this personal...I didn't...I was simply defending my talent and integrity when it was challenged.

That is my right as a person..

[bobdezon]

It would appear you have neither talent nor integrity, (unless your talent is lying to make yourself seem correct after the fact).

[Julia]

Oh Christ - I think it might be a good idea to lock this thread as well! :cheesy:

[siestatime]

Could someone please exorcise this forum? There´s a persistent presence haunting the place ....;)

[Bartos]

Hello all

You may have noticed some ‘admin muscle’ being flexed on the two threads surrounding the delusions of one “not-so-psychic-psychic claimant”. It is my current personal view that those threads have run their course and have nothing left to offer either those involved in them, or those following the debate. Unlike the magical world of the Woo-Forum – we do not edit or remove posts – but leave the debate, in its entirety for all to see. We do not like to stifle debate – but encourage it. However, successful debate between adults can only proceed if all parties, at the very least, remain honest in their reporting of demonstrable facts. It is interesting to see some posters only contributing to the threads that are about themselves!

If you think I have been harsh then send me a PM or discuss it here and I will consider ‘releasing’ this beast of a thread back on you all…..

I don't think you have been harsh Dr.B
Lock this thread as well, because she keeps poking her nose in :cheesy:

[filippo lippi]

The problem with locking threads is certain posters, let's not be specific, can make specious allegations of bullying whilst the (lack of) evidence of said bullying drops off page one and can never be bumped back for reference.

I've had a think and am now agin the locking of threads unless the debate has turned really nasty. It all seems a little proscriptive to me, especially as the power to lock threads rests with a select few and they all seem to be one one "side."

My view is it is better to let threads live or die on their own; if a subject has become stale then members won't post on it, but they make that decision themselves rather than having it imposed (I realise that Dr B did ask the question before closing the threads). If a discussion really has gone off-topic then the whole thread could be moved to somewhere more suitable.

[chillzero]

My view is it is better to let threads live or die on their own; if a subject has become stale then members won't post on it,

but the problem here, and the reason I am ok with the lockings, is that we have one member, who of course doesn't (::)) want to make any of this about her personally but persists in bumping the threads about herself to just make sure we 'get' that point, and tell us all 'good bye, farewell ... won't be back...'

nah - she's not seeking attention at all. ;D

[filippo lippi]

People can choose to ignore her

[Julia]

I'm sure Sarah is already whining about being "bullied" on UK-Skeptics, but even though the relevant threads are locked they constitute a highly revealing (and unalterable) record of her lies, evasions and retrofitting. Anyone less than convinced by her claims need only read the Saga of Psychic Sarah to discover that she is her own worst enemy. Allowing the threads to continue would, I think, be utterly pointless - we are dealing with a person so out of touch with reality any further "discussion" would have been a waste of time.

[Zaira]

"I'm sure Sarah is already whining..."

Sarah, want some cheese with that whine?

Sorry couldn't resist.

[psychicsarah]

(J) U. L.IA

we are dealing with a person so out of touch with reality any further "discussion" would have been a waste of time.

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I am finding it difficult not to be rude to you...

I am VERY in touch with reality I assure you...another projection...and another lie (from YOU)

Please STOP defaming my psyche, my integrity and my work....

[psychicsarah]

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I don't think you have been harsh Dr.B
Lock this thread as well, because she keeps poking her nose in

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I am NOT poking my nose in ...I am a member of this forum....and I am being discussed in ways that are not fair or appropriate.

I am NOT attention seeking...I am simply defending myself.

[psychicsarah]

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My view is it is better to let threads live or die on their own; if a subject has become stale then members won't post on it, but they make that decision themselves rather than having it imposed (I realise that Dr B did ask the question before closing the threads). If a discussion really has gone off-topic then the whole thread could be moved to somewhere more suitable.
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Good point...or they could be deleted altogether; but then the Madeleine threads were getting the forum an awful lot of hits weren't they?

Chill zero...I have never bumped a thread about 'myself' I wasn't aware there were any...except for the ones stared by the moderator....I never started any threads about myself...and you can't bump threads that are closed anyway...(strange point to make)

[psychicsarah]

Zaira

I am NOT whining...I just refuse to be bitched at and bullied.

All these personal jibes are vindictive and horrible...and totally unnecessary

I have done nothing wrong. I tried to contribute to a discussion, but many of you just laid into me because I have different opinions to you; not very open minded AT ALL


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DR B....I DO suggest you lock this one too....thank you and I would appreciate it if people stop refering to me in a derogatory way...on other threads too...

Thankyou

[psychicsarah]

re the musician ship point...(seeing as the other thread is now locked)...No I never tried to be a musician....

Are you going to lock every thread I post on? Gosh this board could be shut down in no time....!!! (Joke)


DR B....Even though it is a strange form of censorship and totally dispenses with someone's right of reply I DO suggest you lock this one too....

I have done nothing wrong on here ....I presume I am allowed to defend my good name and integrity if it gets challenged; anyone else would do the same....

Any way...good bye


;)

[wooo_oops]

I am a member of this forum

Sarah,

why don't you participate in any of the other threads - in the spirit of learning something new, like Zaira does?

That's what I'd call open minded.O0

[wooo_oops]

Oh, uh

Goodbye

Too late.

[psychicsarah]

Sarah,

why don't you participate in any of the other threads - in the spirit of learning something new, like Zaira does?

That's what I'd call open minded.O0

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Yes absolutely willing to do that....(indeed I have done in the past)

But it seems they get shut down if I do that!!!!

Have to go just now

O0

[Zaira]

Sarah,

I apologise. It was just a joke. Among all the controversy I thought you of all people might have appreciated it.

[Cuddles]

(J) U. L.IA

Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously when you can't even type someone's name in a normal manner?

Please STOP defaming... my integrity

I'm fairly sure it's not possible to defame something that doesn't exist.

[chillzero]

Chill zero...I have never bumped a thread about 'myself' I wasn't aware there were any...except for the ones stared by the moderator....I never started any threads about myself...and you can't bump threads that are closed anyway...(strange point to make)

Umm... you see all those threads with your name in the title - that you continually returned to after saying goodbye? Those ones. You bump threads by returning to post in them.

I never said anything about bumping after they were locked.

Also, you participated in a thread I started, just to make the topic all about you, but never returned after I pointed out that the thread was not all about you. If you truly wanted to participate in the forum rather than troll about inflating your google hits and trying to cover up your lies, then surely you would have joined the discussion in that thread regardless.

Nah - you claim you don't want to publicise yourself, and yet you resist posting about anything that isn't about you. You claim you are not psychic, and yet you call yourself 'psychicsarah' and make claims about predictions. You claim you never read the news stories before 'predicting' things, and yet you clearly utilise the forums attached to those very news sites.

I had a low enough opinion of you before your despicable and disgusting treatment of tduk_17 and his girlfriend. Back when I believed I had psychic ability - even back then I worked to debunk people like you. You are a liar, as anyone reading these threads can clearly see. You are uncaring about people as can be seen from your ridiculous scramble to justify the completely incorrect information you gave him. You are a fraud and you don't deserve the amount of attention you have been given - although on the plus side I am certain potential clients of yours can see exactly how in-credible you really are.

Also - PLEASE learn to use the quote function. It really isn't difficult and might add some form of sense to your posts ... if you decide after yet another drama queen exit that you will in fact actually be back again.

[vbloke]

(J) U. L.IA

we are dealing with a person so out of touch with reality any further "discussion" would have been a waste of time.

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I am finding it difficult not to be rude to you...

I am VERY in touch with reality I assure you...another projection...and another lie (from YOU)

Please STOP defaming my psyche, my integrity and my work....It is not projection, Sarah, it is what we here have observed from your increasingly erratic behaviour in your posts.

Your continuing inability to accurately remember what is directly in front of you indicates that you really don't understand reality.

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I don't think you have been harsh Dr.B
Lock this thread as well, because she keeps poking her nose in

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I am NOT poking my nose in ...I am a member of this forum....and I am being discussed in ways that are not fair or appropriate.

I am NOT attention seeking...I am simply defending myself.So, posting the URL of your website on every forum you went to discussing Madeleine, in order to get your name associated with hers, isn't attention seeking?

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My view is it is better to let threads live or die on their own; if a subject has become stale then members won't post on it, but they make that decision themselves rather than having it imposed (I realise that Dr B did ask the question before closing the threads). If a discussion really has gone off-topic then the whole thread could be moved to somewhere more suitable.
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Good point...or they could be deleted altogether; but then the Madeleine threads were getting the forum an awful lot of hits weren't they?

Chill zero...I have never bumped a thread about 'myself' I wasn't aware there were any...except for the ones stared by the moderator....I never started any threads about myself...and you can't bump threads that are closed anyway...(strange point to make)They won't be deleted, Sarah, they're a permanent record of your lies and evasions.

Odd that you keep storming off, saying you're not coming back and then reappear days later with new information that has been in the newspapers, claiming it's psychically intuited.

Zaira

I am NOT whining...I just refuse to be bitched at and bullied.

All these personal jibes are vindictive and horrible...and totally unnecessary

I have done nothing wrong. I tried to contribute to a discussion, but many of you just laid into me because I have different opinions to you; not very open minded AT ALL


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DR B....I DO suggest you lock this one too....thank you and I would appreciate it if people stop refering to me in a derogatory way...on other threads too...

ThankyouWhilst there may have been some "close to the bone" comments about you, we have tried to be patient with you, explored your claims and found them both wanting and fantastical (especially your understanding of statistics).

re the musician ship point...(seeing as the other thread is now locked)...No I never tried to be a musician....

Are you going to lock every thread I post on? Gosh this board could be shut down in no time....!!! (Joke)


DR B....Even though it is a strange form of censorship and totally dispenses with someone's right of reply I DO suggest you lock this one too....

I have done nothing wrong on here ....I presume I am allowed to defend my good name and integrity if it gets challenged; anyone else would do the same....

Any way...good bye


;)The other threads were fast becoming pointless, over long and getting nowhere - that's why they were locked. it's obvious to the casual reader that you lack any special abilities, and your inability to explain your astrological shortcomings are also of interest.

Sarah,

why don't you participate in any of the other threads - in the spirit of learning something new, like Zaira does?

That's what I'd call open minded.O0

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Yes absolutely willing to do that....(indeed I have done in the past)

But it seems they get shut down if I do that!!!!

Have to go just now

O0Can you please show us which threads have been shut down that you have been participating in? (Apart from the obvious ones that bear your name, that is).

[psychicsarah]

The web site is deliberately off air until she is found V Bloke

The posts are not erratic...I was annoyed ...and I defended myself...I have explained it already

Anyone else would have been similarly annoyed to be on the receiving end of such comments

NO hard feelings ....

[psychicsarah]

Sarah,

I apologise. It was just a joke. Among all the controversy I thought you of all people might have appreciated it.

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Zaira...thanking you..

[psychicsarah]

Quote Fruit fly

One of my favourite Scotticism is 'big wean', as in, “Sarah's acting like a big wean!” Oxymoronic or what?

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And so it continues...even on the other posts I have been invited to contribute to?

Brilliant....

Better close this one too Dr B....!

[psychicsarah]

V Bloke

We do it, because without people like us, people like Sarah or Amanda would have free reign, with nobody bothering to fact-check her predictions and claims. We cannot leave them alone, as they prey on perhaps the most vulnerable people in society

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Really?

You have an inflated view of what you think you are doing V Bloke...and it is totally off the mark

[vbloke]

V Bloke

We do it, because without people like us, people like Sarah or Amanda would have free reign, with nobody bothering to fact-check her predictions and claims. We cannot leave them alone, as they prey on perhaps the most vulnerable people in society

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Really?

You have an inflated view of what you think you are doing V Bloke...and it is totally off the markReally?

I'd say it is you who has the inflated view. I do not claim to be a mouthpiece for god, or any other higher power, nor to have supernatural powers.

By way of refutation, we have asked you time and again to provide even one shred of evidence for your claims, which you have steadfastly refused to provide. When evidence is weighed against this criteria, then it becomes obvious that I'm not off the mark at all - without us fact-checking you and others of your ilk, there would be no bars to you claiming all sorts of ludicrous fantasy as fact.

[Julia]

Sound of the Three Degrees plays in background:

"I never can say goodbye, no, no, no, I never can say goodbye..."

::)

[bindeweede]

The web site is deliberately off air until she is found V Bloke

The posts are not erratic...I was annoyed ...and I defended myself...I have explained it already

Anyone else would have been similarly annoyed to be on the receiving end of such comments

NO hard feelings ....

And if "she" is not found, the web site will stay off air .........?

Of course.

[vbloke]

The web site is deliberately off air until she is found V Bloke

The posts are not erratic...I was annoyed ...and I defended myself...I have explained it already

Anyone else would have been similarly annoyed to be on the receiving end of such comments

NO hard feelings ....I thought it was because you'd not renewed your domain name?

Any way, all this is now besides the point - you know our collective stance on your abilities. I am, however, prepared to offer you a chance to redeem yourself - renew negotiations for the lottery test and show us once and for all that you can do what you claim and then, not only will I officially retract all previous statements, but I will publicly apologise to you.

Is that a fair offer, Sarah?

[Zaira]

Sarah,

I could be wrong but I wonder if you may be feeling a little like I did - that you would like to put the bickering to one side and get back to some straight forward discussion and perhaps a little debating. Perhaps, like me, you see the potential for some rational thinking that might include some important personal and spiritual growth. If I’m wrong, forget I said anything.

[fruitfly]

Quote Fruit fly

One of my favourite Scotticism is 'big wean', as in, “Sarah's acting like a big wean!” Oxymoronic or what?

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And so it continues...even on the other posts I have been invited to contribute to?

Brilliant....

Better close this one too Dr B....!

Oh, for goodness sake, that was written a month ago after another of your “flounces off in righteous indignation” episodes. You do that so often it is comical and, yes, up here it is called “acting like a big wean”.

Please don't act the martyr. You are free to post anywhere you want but it is always about you. You come on here and make contradictory statements and when anyone points this out you play the victimisation card.

I have yet to see you post on another (non PS) thread and actually engage with the topic under discussion. Do you have opinions on gun law? The existence of Jesus? The morality of Brian Ladd? Homeopathy, photographic orbs, UFOs, Creationism and ID? Do you have any amusing quotes to share with the people here? Are you any good at spot the difference puzzles? What do you think of the great A80 chicken disaster? You have a philosophy degree, so perhaps you would like to contribute to the critical thinking and logic forum? This is a very good site, perhaps you should engage more fully. I'm sure you would find is intellectually stimulating and occasionally amusing.