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FarSideOfTheMoon
11th September 2007, 09:24 PM
Apologies for another thread relating to Madeleine McCann, but it is exposing all sorts of lowlife. Brian Ladd of Brian's Predictions fame, seems to be about to set up some sort of fund to finance a trip to Portugal to go find Madeleine.

http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/index.htm

I wonder how many gullible fools will be fleeced by this.




9.7.2007
We will go to Portugal under the following conditions, and will be able to go as soon as my passport arrives, I did some checking and I do need a passport to go.


1) There is no way I, nor Kevin can afford this, so the trip has to be funded by my supporters, and if Madeleine is located safe, the reward money be divided between those who contributed.
2) An non-profit expense fund be setup for the sole purpose of this trip and the fund to be handled by a third party. (not me or Kevin)
3) All expenses related to the trip be transparent...I do not want to be accused of making money on this and neither does Kevin.
4) I want to take Kevin, my manager, with me and we will only stay for a few days.
5) If for some reason we are not able to go, 100% of the fund is to be returned to those who donated.
6) Before we do anything, we need someone that's experienced in setting up such a fund...this is very important, please contact Kevin at this address.
7) I would also like any unused funds to stay in the trust to help on other missing person's cases.
8) If any of us do end up in jail, we will use the fund to post bond.


I will need a fund manager who is able to set this up, as I do not have a clue how to do nor does Kevin.
If you would like to help, please email Kevin on this issue as he will be in charge of this issue from now on, so please email him.
We will do everything in our power to help find her, but cannot guarantee any results.
Brian and Kevin


It's going to be a secret though...::)....I wonder why he wouldn't want any attention while he is 'in' Spain or Portugal....


If you believe you can help in this case, it's welcome, but please respect our privacy and not report details of our whereabouts while we are in Portugal or Spain. You may freely report anything you like when we are back in the USA. If we end up in jail, then please feel free to disregard this request :)

I've signed up to his weekly email to see what all the fuss is about. It's full of the BS you would imagine, plenty of links to childish scribblings which download from his site.

The rather interesting part though is how he pleads poverty throughout. Rather a bit too blatently for my liking....



September 5th, 2007 Unfortunately I was not able to get an extension of my power bill, nor convince them of my situation and services will be shut off soon, I have managed to pay almost half of what's owed, but that does not matter to them. It will be restored on or around the 25th of this month when I get paid...so if you do not see my dreams being updated or open cases being worked on...this is why. I will be back as always, and we all will be just fine :) On other news, Brandon stuck a small plastic round lego up his nose...tried to get it out with tweezers but it moved farther up his nose. Took him to the hospital, and while in the waiting room I was showing him how to blow his nose...well it worked. He seemed to actually like the entire experience, however we did not...and are trying our best to not let something like this happen again.




August 30th, 2007:It's been almost three weeks without TV, and I'm finally getting used to it...my family is too...although I do miss Discovery Channel. I did try and see if an antenna on the roof could pick up a channel or two, however it did not work. Seems were we live there is absolutely no TV stations that can be picked up without having cable or satellite.




August 27th, 2007:Again it seems that's our power is getting shut off on the 30th of this month, I called for an extension but it was denied. I'm trying to get a medical form to prevent this from happening, as we have 12 day old baby, but was told WV law requires they have a serious medical condition. The reason why I'm posting this is just in case you do not hear for me for a few weeks, that's why. It also seems that I may need to start spending more time doing the domain selling thing and getting a part time job...as despite what some may think, this site does not pay the bills and actually I have lost 80% of my domains because I could not afford the renewal fee's. I really love what I'm doing and I'm sure in time it will pay the bills, but right now I need to take care of my family and pay the bills...even if it means working outside the home for a while :) On another note, the first day of school went well.....Brian





August 31st, 2007: Ever since last weeks radio show (http://www.globaltalkradio.com/ondemand/shows/dreamtalk/2007Aug28/index.asx) I been dealing with some emotion issues of my own, seems that I'm still not able to cope with my son starting kindergarten and him being away from me for over 8 hours. As I stated before, this is the first time in his life he has been away from myself or his mom for any period of time, let alone over 8 hours. I realize that things change, and it's for the best, but it's still deeply bothering me and affecting my day, as well as my dreams.
The power company still going to cut my line, but I have managed to get 10 days to prove if the power is cut, someone will die. You actually need a doctor to state this in writing and to personally call the power company to explain him/her self, under oath, why the termination should be stopped. The form itself is setup to make the doctor not want to sign it, look at the text in bold. Anyway, at least I got the 10 days before they shut it off...I do not get paid until the 20th, so that's only 10 days....and we have endured without power and water (well is electric) for over a month...in the winter. I'm also in debt for having children...and no medical insurance...currently I owe some $15,000 in medical bills, and the hospital is known for actually taking peoples cars and homes for not paying.



His wife has just had a baby and he is planning to jet off to Europe, quite odd behaviour.



August 15th, 2007: I'm very proud to announce the birth of Allison Claire Ladd at 3:12 PM today weighing 7 pounds 11.8 ounces...this is the third time I have lucky enough to wittiness the birth of my children, and it still the most amazing thing I have ever witnessed. My wife did wonderful and the birth was completely natural as we wished. She did not cry at all, (the baby) which suspired us all....she immediately open her eyes to unveil the most beautiful bright blue eyes I have ever seen...they seemed to be glowing. It was very odd when they were checking vitals, she held my hand tightly and seemed to be checking out everyone and everything in the room...then she yawned like coming into the world was really no big deal. My two other children and my mom were also there to welcome her into the world. I will be taking the next two days off from my day job and this site, I have just posted last night's dreams and other related site material and should be back at work on Saturday. I have have pictures of Allison that I will be posting to my site...you have got to see these eyes :)


Psychic Sarah is but a distraction compared to the evils of this man.

HeyJupiter
11th September 2007, 09:45 PM
I find it a bit odd that his manager doesn't know how to set up a fund, or anyone who would be able to handle it for them. Perhaps he's doing it as a way of saying "look, I'm not taking your money" but I just find that a bit strange...

FarSideOfTheMoon
11th September 2007, 09:49 PM
I find it a bit odd that his manager doesn't know how to set up a fund, or anyone who would be able to handle it for them. Perhaps he's doing it as a way of saying "look, I'm not taking your money" but I just find that a bit strange...

Looks like some sort of confidence trick to me. He constantly tries to come across as naive and innocent, and is trying to make it look like he is being diligent in his actions.

I suspect once the donate button is turned on, he will find some excuse not to go, or will pretend to go. He has the excuse that he will use the money in other missing person cases, so he can quite happily keep it.

HeyJupiter
11th September 2007, 10:06 PM
Looks like some sort of confidence trick to me. He constantly tries to come across as naive and innocent, and is trying to make it look like he is being diligent in his actions.

I suspect once the donate button is turned on, he will find some excuse not to go, or will pretend to go. He has the excuse that he will use the money in other missing person cases, so he can quite happily keep it.

Also, the slightly-unrelated issue that bothers me - he can't keep up with his payments for his power, yet he obviously keeps his Internet services and website going because it earns him (allegedly) a small amount of money. Well surely his connection to the Internet is lost when the power gets cut off anyway? ??? Why doesn't he just give up the Internet if his family are frequently left without power or water? I find that puzzling, also.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand :smiley:

bindeweede
11th September 2007, 10:16 PM
So, Brian was unable to predict he would need a Passport to travel from the US to Portugal. Stunning. Perhaps he thinks Portugal is one of the Florida Keys.;D

And I would be suspired if a baby didn't cry. And so glad he was able to wittiness the birth.

Spell-checker?

FarSideOfTheMoon
11th September 2007, 10:19 PM
It really is staggering, but then again it just highlights how much some people want to believe in people like Brian.

If you read his stuff, at times it feels like he is just taking the piss with his followers. They really will swallow anything he says.

bindeweede
11th September 2007, 10:35 PM
Post from Brian's site...

Kevin and I are very tight when it comes to money, and will take advantage of any free offers we get. The PJ even offered to give us a nice place to stay during the entire stay...and possibly longer...for free :)

Not sure what PJ stands for - Portuguese Judiciary? But I really don't know.

HeyJupiter
11th September 2007, 10:50 PM
Not sure what PJ stands for - Portuguese Judiciary? But I really don't know.

Policia Judiciaria (Police Judiciary), out of interest :)

bindeweede
11th September 2007, 11:08 PM
Policia Judiciaria (Police Judiciary), out of interest :)

Thanks for clarifying.

So, would the PJ really offer a psychic or whatever free accommodation just like that?

Of course they would.

"during the entire stay, and possibly longer." Sorry, too metaphysical for me.

FarSideOfTheMoon
11th September 2007, 11:27 PM
Thanks for clarifying.

So, would the PJ really offer a psychic or whatever free accommodation just like that?

Of course they would.

"during the entire stay, and possibly longer." Sorry, too metaphysical for me.

He may be alluding to the fact that it isn't strictly legal in Protugal to interfere with police investigations.

bindeweede
11th September 2007, 11:30 PM
He may be alluding to the fact that it isn't strictly legal in Protugal to interfere with police investigations.

......which would explain why he talks about the possibility of ending up in prison. Several times.

fruitfly
11th September 2007, 11:34 PM
......which would explain why he talks about the possibility of ending up in prison.

Here's hoping!

Admin
11th September 2007, 11:47 PM
Isn't it a bit late to be going to Portugal to solve this case?

Not too late to be asking for money to do so though. ;)

tolman
12th September 2007, 02:12 PM
Given that this is a guy who claims to be able to predict lottery numbers, his constant appeals for money do seem rather funny.

FarSideOfTheMoon
12th September 2007, 05:11 PM
Someone posted some testimonials from his site once. His success rate seemed to be on a par with Psychic Sarah i.e. he got 3 numbers or similar and that was deemed a success.

If I was paying him 500 dollars for a life membership to his site, I'd be wanting the jackpot at least.

FarSideOfTheMoon
12th September 2007, 08:34 PM
BINGO!!!

Here we go, as expected he has set the wheels in motion to start collecting money from his 'followers'.

At the bottom of http://www.briansdreams.com/onlocation/




TEMPORARY SOLUTION FOR THE FUND ISSUE


Since we have not been able to find a fund manger, I will be using my own merchant account.
Before anyone donates, please be aware this this is not a non-profit trust account, it a normal merchant account owned by me.
We will not be able to refund donations with this account, nor provide detailed reports as where the money is going.
All I can tell you is that we will (Kevin and I) go to Portugal and do whatever it takes to help locate Madeleine.
If she is located before this, the funds will be placed into our On Location, Missing Peron Fund, when it's setup.
Hopefully we will find a fund manager soon, and you may want to wait to donate then.
I'm just doing this to provide other alternatives before the fund is open.
Payments can be made in any currency and via any method of payment to include PayPal.
To make a donation, click here to visit my online (http://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FCWW_LIVE&lang=en&page=&currency=EUR) store and enter the US dollar amount in the box displaying.
"On Location - Missing Persons Fund"


That's it, and that you for helping.
Brian and Kevin



And that is preceeded by a letter which has just appeared today, and could well be fake, urging him to just accept the damn money anyway. Note the bolding in this instance, is his, not mine.


He certainly knows how to run a scam.




Dear Brian,




Somehow I don't get access to the private pages 9 and 10, even though I tried to, but I read your "trip"-page that you are really preparing to go to Portugal now. Fantastic! I am just wondering why nobody is offering to help with setting up this fund. I would love to help, but I don't know what I'd have to do. What exactly is required to set up such a fund? Could we contact some other Foundation perhaps, to help. I am thinking of who to contact, but I don't know. I am from the Netherlands and I don't think it is possible for a Dutch person to set up such a thing in the US. But does this fund have to be in the US, or can you also travel on behalf of a foreign Foundation? Why not?



Although I think it is very good of you that you say you want financial things to be arranged before to go, I think you should just go when you get the financial assistance from us readers. We can transfer money to a bank account.


I read on your site that someone said, just accept money and go, we'll sort things out afterwards (not in these words, but with the same meaning). I absolutely agree! If poor Madeleine is still alive, then she must be found as soon as possible, actually, she should have been found a long time ago! Who knows what "they" can still do to her.


I am certain that all your readers that would donate money, would think it is alright if you'd use the money, as long as you'd go there and see if you can find her.


I do hope anyway that someone with experience in such funds will offer his/her help very soon, because there is no time to lose.


I wish you and Kevin all the luck that you need and I pray for a miracle!!!!


Evie


The Netherlands
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Hi, the logon for these pages is:
username:


privatecaseaccess


password:


truth


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I really wanted a fund set up, but so far, no one has called. If nothing happens by today, I will accept payments myself using my own merchant account. I will have to make some changes in the terms of the fund I proposed.
Brian

bindeweede
12th September 2007, 09:16 PM
Farside

Couldn't find a fund manager? Well who would have guessed? And there will be genuine, caring people out there who will be sending money to this guy. Sad really.

And why does he want to bring up bloody Evita again.......


Missing Peron Fund,

fruitfly
12th September 2007, 09:26 PM
Regardless of the morality of all this, is it legal?

FarSideOfTheMoon
12th September 2007, 09:30 PM
I suspect so, as he has been pulling these scams for years. His whole website is devoted to attracting followers who will donate or sign up to his emails. It's full of his own personal sob stories as to how broke he is.

With the disclaimers he has, if people want to give him money in his own personal account, then I imagine there isn't anything illegal about it.

If you want, I can give you my paypal details for donations, I'm not telling you what I'm going to do with the money (although it might involve Guinness O0).

bindeweede
12th September 2007, 09:33 PM
Regardless of the morality of all this, is it legal?

I'm only guessing but this...

Before anyone donates, please be aware this this is not a non-profit trust account, it a normal merchant account owned by me.

might suggest he has taken legal advice. When it comes to conning the gullible, these people are experts.

Somewhere, I have a 10 Slovenian Tolar note, which I might send to him. Should cost a couple of Dollars to convert, and worth about 5p.

Actually, I think Slovenia might be in the Eurozone by now. Oh well......

HeyJupiter
12th September 2007, 10:21 PM
This situation is really starting to aggravate me now... if he can't afford to go off his own steam, then he shouldn't go. Simple as that. The case is currently divided between the UK and Portugal anyway, where is the sense in him coming over from the US?

And why can't he run a spell-checker?! >:-) It's painful to read!

fruitfly
12th September 2007, 10:28 PM
Thanks guys. Unfortunately, you are confirming what I thought. What a complete bastard!

Farside, I'd gladly buy you a pint - you deserve one. Bindeweed, I have no desire to put temptation between you and your vow! Nice try but not quite in Brian's league.

bindeweede
12th September 2007, 10:38 PM
Farside,

My last pint of Guinness cost about 25p. I am emailing you a voucher for 50p. Keep the change:smiley:

Nice work.

FarSideOfTheMoon
12th September 2007, 10:51 PM
I deserve more than one pint for reading through this crap and subscribing to his email >:-)

bindeweede
12th September 2007, 10:57 PM
I deserve more than one pint for reading through this crap and subscribing to his email >:-)

Gollygosh, you've subscribed? Hope there is an "unsubscribe button", or you could be getting his stuff for eternity.

Upping the voucher to 65p.;)

Everyone says I'm just too generous.;D

fruitfly
12th September 2007, 11:02 PM
And I'll throw in a bag of crisps!

FarSideOfTheMoon
12th September 2007, 11:17 PM
Gollygosh, you've subscribed? Hope there is an "unsubscribe button", or you could be getting his stuff for eternity.

Upping the voucher to 65p.;)

Everyone says I'm just too generous.;D

I'm interested to see if I get spam as well. I've heard others say Brian runs a domain selling business, but I have no proof of that myself.

I'm also interested to see just how persuasive he is, and what sort of tactics he uses. He does seem to be relatively successful at generating good publicity for himself among believers, even though to me he so obviously a complete conman. His drawings have been exposed for the trick they are, including by John on this site, but still people flock to him.

All the 'meaty' drawings which attract the attention seem to be missing from his emails as well, and just appear on his site when he starts to draw attention to them.

tolman
13th September 2007, 01:10 PM
Wasn't he also running a scam - emailing winning lottery numbers to people, except the email contained a link to an *image* with the prediction on it, which appeared to have been altered after the actual lottery?

Admin
13th September 2007, 01:16 PM
See: http://www.ukskeptics.com/prediction.htm

FarSideOfTheMoon
13th September 2007, 01:19 PM
I'm reading on another site that $50k will cover him and his manager's expenses. I need to check that tonight as I can't access his site at work.

If that is true, that is a lot of money to cover a couple of flights, hotel rooms, hire car and meals.

Is he planning on flying first class?

filippo lippi
13th September 2007, 01:30 PM
Just be thankful he hasn't considered buyin his own Lear jet.

MRT
13th September 2007, 01:31 PM
When I went to his website it crashed my Explorer. Spooky! ;)

I don't know why the guy just doesn't approach the media. They would fund the trip, no problem. :smiley:

FarSideOfTheMoon
13th September 2007, 06:02 PM
From his 'on location' page.

So, basically he is soliciting donations now with a share of the reward money, and he isn't even sure how much that is.




I have been asked how the reward money will be divided between supports if Madeleine is found safe, and Kevin and I have came up with a solution that seems fair.
We are not sure what the reward is at, but the final amount will be divided up to between everyone that's donated and the amount be based solely on the amount contributed.
I imagine that no more than 500 people will donate, and I'm guessing the fund will grow to around $50,000 US Dollars, which is enough for the trip and all related expenses.
Any money not used will remain in the non-profit fund when it's finally set up..
Brian





Resources / whatever it takes
When doing someone of this magnitude I do not want to fail, and like I have said before, I will use all available resources and do what I think needs to be done to find her. Noting will be overlooked and no plan will be ignored. We will be not doing this alone, and have many friends in the right places to help us on this journey. Great care will be taken to prevent ourselves and anyone else from danger, and we are well aware of what we're getting into. Also, I do not intend to waste people's hard earned money just to come home with no results...and Kevin feels the same way. We may or may not find her, but I want everyone to know, we will give it all we have.


Potential Issues
If you see anything saying to donate to this fund, and it's not on this page...it's not real. The fund is not setup yet, and when it is, I will announce it here. At that time, anyone may link to the fund if they wish, and I would encourage it.
UPDATE: A temporary olution to the fund issue is now located here. (http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/index.htm#fund)


Media Involvement
If you believe you can help in this case, it's welcome, but please respect our privacy and not report details of our whereabouts while we are in Portugal or Spain. You may freely report anything you like when we are back in the USA. If we end up in jail, then please feel free to disregard this request :)


Expense Sheet
pending - will list all expenses related to the case on here.

Nils
13th September 2007, 06:17 PM
Hi.

Has anyone emailed briansmanager@gmail.com :cheesy: offering to be a fund manager?

I'd be interested as to the response.

I'd do it myself but I'm just a newbie and all...

bindeweede
13th September 2007, 07:14 PM
Farside,

In your last post, Brian said, "We may or may not find her..." But I thought he was some sort of predictor. Also, did you come across this on his web-site....

From what I have learned over the past few years, many prediction dates might not always be in the normal calendar year as we know it today. Most of the time, the dates turn out to be correct and in normal format, but on some occasions different calendar systems have also proven to be correct, especially the </SPAN>Julian Date Calendar</SPAN> (http://www.iasfbo.inaf.it/~mauro/JD/) (which I used in the military) and something called the </SPAN>Mayan Calendar</SPAN> (http://www.pauahtun.org/Calendar/tools.html), which I never heard of until about a few years ago. So if you see a date on a DD (dream drawing), and it's already passed, you might want to try one of these calendars before assuming I was wrong.

So I'm concluding that he does not necessarily use the same calendar as the rest of us.:cheesy: Well, he might. It might depend on what he has predicted on what day???.</SPAN>

Edit. Sorry, don't know where all this "span" stuff came from.

Nils
13th September 2007, 07:17 PM
"We may or may not find her..."

This seems a very accurate prediction to me! Probably his first:cheesy:

FarSideOfTheMoon
13th September 2007, 07:43 PM
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Farside,

In your last post, Brian said, "We may or may not find her..." But I thought he was some sort of predictor. Also, did you come across this on his web-site....

From what I have learned over the past few years, many prediction dates might not always be in the normal calendar year as we know it today. Most of the time, the dates turn out to be correct and in normal format, but on some occasions different calendar systems have also proven to be correct, especially the </SPAN>Julian Date Calendar</SPAN> (http://www.iasfbo.inaf.it/~mauro/JD/) (which I used in the military) and something called the </SPAN>Mayan Calendar</SPAN> (http://www.pauahtun.org/Calendar/tools.html), which I never heard of until about a few years ago. So if you see a date on a DD (dream drawing), and it's already passed, you might want to try one of these calendars before assuming I was wrong.

So I'm concluding that he does not necessarily use the same calendar as the rest of us.:cheesy: Well, he might. It might depend on what he has predicted on what day???.</SPAN>

Edit. Sorry, don't know where all this "span" stuff came from.

It is stunning in it's absurdity. But he genuinely does seem to have many many fans. He is pleading for people not to send him so many emails about Madeleine McCann as he is overwhelmed. He already has hundreds of them on his site, all displaying varying degrees of delusion and idiocy.

How about this one?


Hello Brian,

I would be very interested to know if any of the people involved in this kidnaping drive a SAAB. I had a dream about that early on in the case. I also dreamed of Gibraltar at one point, and thought it might be related. I emailed this to the Bring Madeleine Home website long ago. I have had dreams in the past come true and I just want so much for her to be found. It is terrible how it is being handled over there. I hope you are successful in your trip.

Thank you,

E.J
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Hi, not sure, and thank you.
Brian


Or this one?


Hi Brian

I have just found your site and am impressed by what I've seen (well done!)

l have just recently started to get interested into the disappearance of Maddy over the last few days and keep having the same feeling when l dream of her. l wondered if you can put me straight as it's confusing me - so here goes!

Just as l am falling asleep l can see large rocks and the sea, there are 5 jagged rocks and its night, I can see stars and also the moons out. Number one and three rocks are the important ones and l feel scared as l can hear the water lapping at them and splashing against them and me too. I can hear voices speaking in a language that I cannot understand - they are both male, but l cannot describe them as they have not shown themselves to me. I get the impression that it is either Spain, Portugal or Italy that I'm in (although I have never been to either of these places)

l have never experienced anything like this before, the clarity and the sensations of my dream. l have been walking about for the last 2 days with a sense of unease and forboding as if waiting for something to happen of great importance.

Hope you don't mind me mailing you as I know you must get innundadated with emails and requests.

Keep up the good work!

Dee S (Greater London, England)
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Not a problem, and thanks for sharing your dream...and I try an answer as many emails as I can...but its getting harder and harder everyday.
Brian


or this one?


HI brian
Just a question on the above dream drawing number. the initials r.s are on it. would this be a robert smith. the reason I am asking is a friend of mine who is a psychic also told me of a dream she had and the name Robert Smith kept coming up in it. She didnt think it was related to the MAdaleine case but when I saw this she thought it might have something to do with it.

Thank you

Antoinette


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Thanks, not sure, but will post this information.
Brian



His latest bunch of emails is on this page if you feel so inclined. You need to logon though - privatecaseaccess/truth.

http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/private/5441page10.htm

FarSideOfTheMoon
13th September 2007, 10:49 PM
This gets better and better....



9.13.2007
Hi Brian,

Have you thought of bringing an underground listening device with you. There not that expensive. There are ones that enable you to hear through walls and underground. Just an idea

E
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Hi, thanks and yes we did...along with some other things.
Brian

Julia
13th September 2007, 11:32 PM
Oh. My. God.

When you consider the MILLIONS of people who think like this it makes you wonder how the Age of Reason managed to get off the ground in the first place! :cheesy:

FarSideOfTheMoon
14th September 2007, 08:28 AM
I wonder if he is aware his fund raising for this looks a bit dubious, he has actually posted a critical email on his location page:




Hi Brian,
I have been reading your site since the case for Maddy started! I want to know if you go to portugal what it is you think you can achieve?
You said yourself that the area you believe Maddy is is protected
*It is illegal to try and solve a crime in Portugal unless you are the Police?
*It seems that numerous people have also been to Portugal for the same reasons you have to try and find Madeleine and have has no success?
*Other sites have ALSO been asking for donations to fund these trips from vunerable people who are willing to do anything to find Madeline
I don't think it is fair that you are now asking for donations into you PRIVATE account and have clearly stated that you cannot tell people details of how much you received or where the money is spent? People are emotionally involved in this case and because of this will propbably donate money they otherwise wouldn't.
I have followed the case and truly believed in your work but feel that now money has become involved i feel that you now have another agenda - i think that maybe you think you are owed money for the work that you do and why not make a bit of cash while you can?
Sorry Brian but i feel you can do more at home with your DD/RV's and feel that trip to Portugal is really unnecessary as you CANNOT acheive anything when you get there! As already proved by people trying the same tried and failed.
Also you have stated that you would need $50,000 for this trip..???? Can you break that down? Your accomdation is free? So you only need flights and money for food ( IF YOU DO FEEL YOU SHOULD GO ). Surely you should not need any where near this amount of money! I also feel that if you do continue to allow people to donate in your personal account that you should stop it once you have enough money!
I'm sure others are feeling the same as me! Please post with a reply
Thanks
MARIE ENGLAND
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Hi Marie, not sure what you mean...all donations and whatever happens with are clearly posted...and I'm not making a dime on anyone of them...have you read this page?
www.BriansDreams.com/onlocation (http://www.briansdreams.com/onlocation)
Remarks like this is what I have been trying to avoid...but I guess you cannot win no matter what you do.
Brian


And funnily enough that is followed by another super supportive one which could almost have been written in response to the first one.



Hi Brian,



This is for everyone who is (thinking about) donating to Brian's trip to go find Madeleine: your gift will be well spent!

You see, if you give, you will recieve.

And because I personally trust Brian and the others to do well with the donations, I also believe that if you might have some little doubts, you may cast them aside. Why?

Because even IF Brian would use the money for other things than he has promised, you have still GIVEN with pure intentions.

And that on its own is a seed we will always harvest in our lives.

In this case the 'seed' will hopefully bring back this sweet little girl, which is ofcourse THE most important reason for donating!!!!

Therefore we can all donate with confidence that our gift will always be a blessing.

And Brian, again, I DO trust you with our money so don't let anything keep you from going as soon as you can!!!!

Blessings and courage to all,



Greetz,
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Thanks, and I can assure everyone that all donations will be used wisely and transparently...full details on every penny or should I say pence, are posted here. (http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm)
Brian


I've no proof either of these emails are fake or genuine.

FarSideOfTheMoon
14th September 2007, 08:30 AM
Also, he has this at the top of his On Location page



On Location, Missing Person's Fund - Information Page
www.BriansDreams.com/onlocation (http://www.briansdreams.com/onlocation)
fund details as of 9.13.2007 4:46 PM EST USA
total contributors: 47 (http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm) | total amount: USD 2,228 (http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm) GBP 1,099 (http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm) | highest contribution: USD 159, (http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm)donated by: Angela (http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm)

FarSideOfTheMoon
14th September 2007, 08:31 AM
And finally for now, an interesting post over at JREF in a thread about Brian's claims to have applied for the million dollars.

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2960622&postcount=17


I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but I served in the military with Sgt. (later Ssg.) Ladd.

He's a grade-A idiot, a schemer and a plotter who makes Homer Simpson look clever. Calling him stupid would be a compliment - and an undeserved one at that.

I wouldn't worry about Ladd. He's incapable of properly applying for the MDC - the paperwork alone would stump him.

HeyJupiter
14th September 2007, 11:39 AM
This article quotes Philomena McCann specifically referring to Brian and his drawings as "nonsense" and "of no help"...

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article2607184.ece

Boswell
14th September 2007, 01:59 PM
Just found this site, as I was interested to know what people's take on Brian Ladd might be.

The thing I'd say about his site, Briansdreams.com, which I came across via the Madeleine McCann case, is that it is consistently, in its way, reassuring (well, maybe not so reassuring if you're the RM of his original dream, I suppose!). But, whereas the media have pitched from one extreme to another with their theories about Madeleine and her parents, and most news sites on the subject attract vitriolic comments from people who can't wait to have a go at the McCann's (as well as those who vocally support them), Brian focuses on the girl herself, and has consistently said that he doesn't think the parents had anything to do with her disappearance.

His site has become a kind of haven not just for would-be dream detectives (whose theories make fascinating reading, you've got to admit!) but those who don't like the "feeding frenzy" you get on newspaper websites whenever the topic is raised.

I haven't a clue whether Brian himself really has any kind of gift, I don't know if he's rich, poor or middling, but I know that for precisely nought pence (because you don't need to pay anything to look at his site), he has been incredibly good value so far! Psychic Brian is a bit of a legend in my house now. And you know what, deep down, I hope he's right: that Madeleine is alive, that her parents had nothing to do with her disappearance, and that we should keep looking.

Whether the trip to Portugal will ever materialise... well, I guess we'll have to wait and see. (And no, I haven't contributed to the fund!)

Elin
14th September 2007, 02:37 PM
I have noticed that also that he has always said the parents are innocent, and they would be blamed. He has also been sure from start that Murat is involved in this...He has never changed his opinion on this, unlike some other physics. I find that kind of honest.
I hope he will go to Portugal, If i were him i wouldn“t dare to go there and risk such huge failure and disappoint to all his readers and supporters.
But raising fund for the travel costs and not going would also be a disaster for him, so this will be worth watching.8)

p.s. what is with the electric company in his hometown, are they sceptics trying to shut him down?;D

(English is not my mother language so i am sorry if i write wrong.)

fruitfly
15th September 2007, 12:00 PM
Oh oh!

http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=13966

I have posted a warning there and linked to this thread. I post as SC on that site.

chillzero
15th September 2007, 12:46 PM
Can those who donated not have Paypal help return their funds, and have him convicted for personal financial gain under false pretences, or something?

If so, please post that there, I'm not a member.

fruitfly
15th September 2007, 01:01 PM
Chillzero,

This is from Brian's website:

I will be using my own merchant account.Before anyone donates, please be aware this this is not a non-profit trust account, it a normal merchant account owned by me. We will not be able to refund donations with this account, nor provide detailed reports as where the money is going.

This was pointed out earlier as Brian legally covering himself. A nasty and exploitative individual.

My post on the Mirror site was not my most eloquent or well thought out - more the instant reaction of one in a hurry! I don't want to post on that thread again as the Mirror is a busy site and hopefully it will get lost amongst all the other threads. To post would bring it back to prominence. I'll keep my eye on it until it drops off the page.

chillzero
15th September 2007, 03:21 PM
But if he has asked for donations to go to Portugal, and doesn't, then surely the police would be interested in that?

fruitfly
15th September 2007, 04:10 PM
Looks dodgy to me but see Farside's first post on this page: http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1300&page=2


All I can tell you is that we will (Kevin and I) go to Portugal and do whatever it takes to help locate Madeleine.
If she is located before this, the funds will be placed into our On Location, Missing Peron Fund, when it's setup.

Perhaps someone with knowledge of the law can comment.

FarSideOfTheMoon
15th September 2007, 04:41 PM
But if he has asked for donations to go to Portugal, and doesn't, then surely the police would be interested in that?

We've got no proof that he doesn't intend to go to Portugal. Maybe he fancies an all expenses paid holiday, I know some nice hotels on the Algarve.

My money would be on a big excuse appearing at some point, however the focus on him and his money raising may result in him actually going. I'm not sure if his manager 'Kevin' actually exists though, and he hasn't mentioned who the other people accompanying him are. Although he has said others will go and that is why he needs so much money.

Regardless, he won't be finding Madeleine with his dream/psychic powers even if he does go.

FarSideOfTheMoon
15th September 2007, 04:42 PM
Latest update:




9.14.2007
A fund manager still has not been located, but Kevin is following up on some leads, please remember that in order to be a non-profit, we need to based it in the United States.
If you have any questions, comments or suggestions regarding this fund please contact Kevin. (briansmanager@gmail.com?subject=TRUST FUND HELP ATTN: Kevin)
To take advantage of the moment, I'm using my KAGI merchant account to accept funds, and I'm absolutely amazed by the generous contributories made by my readers thus far.
As promised, this fund will be 100% transparent (http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm)...currently I have placed myself in the position to see that this happens. When a fund is setup and a manager found, this will continue.
I would also like any remaining money left over to be kept in the fund and used on other missing children cases throughout the world, particularly those that have not have the media coverage as with this case. This fund, if managed properly, could be used to help family's without the financial opportunities the McCann's have been blessed with...employing new concepts in locating people, including psychics, remote viewers as well as traditional private deactivates, police and criminal profilers. I believe that with an open mind, and the use of all available sources and materials, and having a what-ever-it-takes attitude, we could really make a difference.
Just a thought, and something to think about for later projects.
Brian

FarSideOfTheMoon
15th September 2007, 04:44 PM
And this is a link to his transparant fund raising.

http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm

He can list the donations all he wants, he still has them in his private account.

Wonder if his electricity bill has been paid yet? ::)

FarSideOfTheMoon
15th September 2007, 04:49 PM
I'm not even sure he needs to go, according to this, Madeleine is in Murat's mom's house.

Note also in the first line of his reply, he is hedging his bets as to whether she is dead or alive. Good work there Brian. Hope you are reading this.



9.15.2007
BRIAN,
HEY, WELL I DON'T NO WHAT TO BELEIVE, IS MADDIE DEAD OR NOT????
ONE MINUTE I'M HEARING ONE THING AND THE NEXT ANOTHER, AND THEN THEY SAY THAT THE BODY DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE??? HOW DO THEY NO???

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WEATHER SHE HAS DIED???

i know you are extremely busy Brian, and I hate to bug you, but what i am asking is is it possible for you to get away from the computer, go somewhere peacefull like the lake and do an rv on her, I am concerned about your last drawing of her being next to a cross, could this be that she has died and they buried her in the cemetery???

Was it the parents, or the other horrible thought that I had was, what if Murat did have her, she is a very energetic four year old, and from what I am gathering, he would of had to drug her to keep her quiet.. what if he accidently overdosed her before he was interigated..???
and she died???

My hubby can pick locks in minutes, he works now and then for our local police, he said car boots are the easiest to 'POP', this would be easy for someone to plant evidence...

The other one I thought of is there is blood in another apartment, then maybe Jane Tanner
and Matthew Oldfield had something to do with it???

This is soo confusing..

BRIAN WHAT DO YOU THINK, IS SHE ALIVE OR IS SHE DEAD???

ANGIE
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Hi, I do not know if she is dead, but since I can not have any dream, both lucid or normal, stating she is...to me she is alive.
Any other thoughts would not be helpful in this case.
I believe she is still in Robert Murat's moms house or very close by...I believe she was taken by him and his friends and do this for money.
I also believe some hotel staff are involved and so are some local police and officials...not all.
I believe this has happened before, and will most likely happen again...although it might not be in the same area for a while.
I believe the parents are not telling the entire truth as to their leaving their children alone, but I'm certain that they had nothing to do with the abduction...and she was abducted...too many dreams confirm this.
Again, I suggest that the entire area be searched, especially the area's I have, and other readers have marked and wells as past DD's locations, to include churches.
What happened...has happened, no matter what the news reports, the crime is still the same...it's really not that complicated...search the area...without using people involved in the crime.
However, in this case it seems that the fox is still guarding the hen house...and this is what we are trying so hard to expose...and in time...we will.
Does Madeleine have time...I do not know, but if she has not been harmed by now, I believe she never will be...at least not psychically.
The parents could have, and most likely still can, psychically look for their daughter...using any means necessary.
We would really love them to help us in this, but it seems something is stopping them and I certainly hope it's not an ego problem...
I have read way to much about how they feel about possibly going to jail...and what it will have on their life and how it will affect their other children...it already is affecting their children...kids can easily sense this stuff. We are going to Portugal and could be in danger ourselves...yet I do not see anyone on my team complaining about this...and we all have kids...that's why were are doing it.
If the parent's do not change their ways of dealing with this issue, the PJ will get what they want...a return to the family friendly resort atmosphere they so much advertise, and the McCann's behind bars.
At this point it will be too late, and no one will believe them expect for family members, my readers and me...and Madeleine could still be nearby or in Brazil. (http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Portugal.htm)
Ironically, the more I think about this case, and all the information I'm exposed to, it actually makes it more difficult for me to do the only thing I know how to do....dream.
And I know this may anger some people, but when Madeleine is found safe, the parents do need to be brought up on neglect charges, as they did break the law.
And I will take you advice :)
Brian

chillzero
15th September 2007, 05:50 PM
Well, either he will use money to go to Portugal to search for Madeleine McCann, and should be arrested for interfering in an active case, or he won't use the money to go to Portugal to search for her in which case he should be arrested for having gained money on false pretences.

Seems simple to me.
:)

FarSideOfTheMoon
15th September 2007, 05:55 PM
Your logic is spot on :smiley:

Here is his latest news update. He keeps going on about doing his missing person stuff, but unless I've missed something he hasn't found a single person.

On his site he has some kind of statistic




MPRV SUCCESS RATE AS OF 06/29/2007: [91&#37;] AVERAGE WAITING TIME FOR PUBLIC REQUEST COMPLETION: [36 WEEKS]



I assume this means Missing Person Remote View. So basically his success rate is 91% but he can't prove finding anyone? Nice.






September 10th, 2007: Lights still on...tomorrows radio show maybe rather boring, or not...you'll just have to listen here at 6 PM East Coast USA time too see :) Details of the trip to Spain are posted here, (http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/index.htm) or at www.BriansDreams.com/onlocation (http://www.briansdreams.com/onlocation...mamaged)...and I hope we do not let you down.


September 9th, 2007: Spent the day at Antietam Battlefield...had a great time, and did a lot of walking...one thing that really bothered me...at each battle site there are markers listing those who died...yet all the names we saw where those of officers...what, where their no enlisted men or NCO's at the battle? The power is still on, but tomorrow is Monday...if you do not see any posting tomorrow, most likely the lights and water will be off. Oh, forgot to mention this...we are going to have puppies any day now...and I remember as a child, my dad got me out of elementary school to see our dog give birth...and from that point on I wanted to be a veterinarian...it didn't happen, but I would love the opportunity to walk in Samuels classroom this week and do the same for him...Brian
Pending Missing Person Cases: I'm very sorry for the delay in getting these done, I will be working most of the morning tomorrow to get some of these completed in lucid mode.


September 7th, 2007: I have spent more than 12 straight hours today answering emails...and only managed to answer about half of them...dd's are posted and I'm very tired...oh...lights are still on :)

HeyJupiter
15th September 2007, 08:36 PM
I'm actually quite stunned at the amount of money he's been given... Nearly £2000!! ??? Scary!

Mongrel
15th September 2007, 09:56 PM
I'm actually quite stunned at the amount of money he's been given... Nearly £2000!! ??? Scary!


A fool and his money.....

HeyJupiter
15th September 2007, 10:21 PM
A fool and his money.....

He could get a cheap plane ticket for £2000, surely? I mean, come on, if his accommodation was "free"... Didn't he say that he wanted around $50,000 from this?! >:-) He didn't answer that lady who emailed him either, with regards as to what this amount was actually for!

FarSideOfTheMoon
15th September 2007, 10:47 PM
He's taking a break for a few days:



OK...I need some time away from this case...and will be back in a few days, I will not be posting anything this weekend.
Please do not send me any news reports about this case, if you must contact me, please do it on Monday.
Brian


More like counting his money....

FarSideOfTheMoon
16th September 2007, 09:32 AM
Access to his Madeleine pages now supposed to be unrestricted:



UPDATE: It seems obvious that the McCann's do are not going to sue me, and hopefully after this is over...have no intention then either.

All restrictions to this area are lifted and no password will be needed.

Brian


It was only ever the last couple of the pages (now up to 11 :-X) which needed a password, which was published in his email anyway.

He is completely bonkers.

FarSideOfTheMoon
16th September 2007, 10:07 AM
This is also confusing. KAGI is purely a payment processing capabilty. Once the money is donated there, it is his money.


He seems to be saying that the fund manager will need to make arrangements with KAGI to get money out quicker than the normal monthly release?


Kind of assumes that he will continue to use KAGI for his fund, so what role would a fund manager be playing then? All contributions would still be going through the same fund processing capability under the same terms.


And it seems then that his ability to go as soon as his passport is ready is misleading, if money can't currently be released until 20th October?




Hi Kevin, I have emailed Brian and had no response as yet but do know he is inundated with emails at present so am not surprised. Please would you mind looking into this below and post something on the site to reassure others who may be having doubts before donating.


Many thanks.



Hi Brian, I had a quick look at the donations and noticed the following:-



EXPENDITURE CHECK BOOK
date
balance USD
Expense description
9.13.2007
2,228
All funds donated to date are still with KAGI, the held funds are released once a month on or around the 20th, for previous months deposits.


That would mean the funds will only be available to you on 20th October 2007


I'm sure you have this in order but feel you should reassure your potential contributors that this is the case & how.


Also I have no doubt that you will be going to Spain but feel you should take photographs outside certain 'famous' locations with yourself in the photo to prove that you have been in this location just because if you cannot locate her you may get a backlash from donators claiming you never went in the first place. Also suggest you keep all related documents ie plane tickets/ confirmation etc as proof. Whatever you do don't keep a diary or take a bible!! (only joking)
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Everything will be posted, and you are correct about October 20th date, but I'm sure that once a fund is setup, the fund manager can make arraignments with KAGI on this issue.
We are planning recording video of much of what we are going to do as well as doing several live pod casts, this material will be made available to all everyone that's donated.
I also have records of all contributors, to include email addresses and will ensure that everyone that's donated will be given credit.
Remember, all I'm doing is collecting and recording donations, I will not be in charge of the fund nor do I want to be.
I would suggest again, that if people do not want to use KAGI, please wait until the fund is setup.
Brian

dee
17th September 2007, 01:08 PM
Cannot believe this guy, he's STILL asking you to donate to his fund - just had a look at the list of donors and some are giving him loads!!

Any offers to donate to my new car fund?

Hmmm thought not lol

FarSideOfTheMoon
18th September 2007, 10:44 PM
Latest series of emails/comments from his site:




9.17.2007

Hello Brian

I've been reading on the Mirror forum that you are asking for £50,000 to be donated into the fund before you will take your trip. That is a heck of a lot of money to go to Portugal isn't it?

I've donated to this fund thinking that you are really going to try to find Maddie, but now I'm not so sure. Please can I have a refund?

Jill
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Hi Jill, well it was $50,000 US and it was just a guess, but sure, just ask KAJI for a refund, I will approve it right away.
This also goes for anyone else, please ask for your money back if you're not sure about me.


Brian
$50,000 = about £25,000, for all costs for my team of three right now, personally I do not think this estimate is that off.
Brian


He must be pricing first class tickets. Either that of he thinks Europe is hell of expensive.



Dear Brian, ive followed your site since a few days after Maddy went missing and although throughtout the Maddy case, I have been a little sceptical at times at the things that have been written in the papers and on the news, i have found comfort from the shear determination you have shown and the time you have dedicated to help search for Maddy.After reading the comments made about the need for a refund from money donated for your trip,i was shocked.I donated, not necsasarily because i felt that you would be able to go abroad and bring Maddy back (although if you could, that would be fantastic), but because i felt that at last someone was doing something that was bringing people together in the hope of gaining some answers! The Maddy fund in know over a million pounds and yet, what has it realy achieved!! a few posters on the wall and a lot of high powered people with tight purse strings! I wish you well on your journey, all the best x
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Hi, thanks, we are going to go...and I'm happy to refund anyone's money, but when the trust is setup, I will not have this control.
Like I said, we will try everything we know to help find her, although there are some things I cannot post until later.
It also seems that when something is posted on a message board, people seem to think the author knows everything about me and my intentions...well if they do, then why even donate to the cause.
I do not know how the fund is operated in the UK, but setting up a non-profit in the US does take some paperwork and unfortunately some time.
I do not believe anymore posters are needed of Madeleine, as it seems the media has done this work for free...but would highly suggest offering a reward to the Portuguese people than can prove police corruption in this case. Hiring a PI might also be a good idea...people have told me that the McCann's cannot legally do this. Not sure why this is, but I would suggest they find a way around that...if they haven't already done this months ago.
Brian


Remember this man has already been caught forging his dreams. He has no chance of finding her. Maybe he really is trying to just fund a holiday?

Kevin chips in. Remember, Brian can't afford to keep his electricity in his house on for his new born baby and wife, but he has a manager. Notice how Kevin talks about himself in the third person below. You could almost imagine that Brian was writing it and forgot that 'Kevin' was supposed to be writing it O0. Or would that be just too cynical?

Spelling and grammar are atrocious.



FROM KEVIN
Monday Sept. 19th. 2007 19:35 hours

From: Kevin

Subject: Fund

Hello all,

First I want to say thank you to everyone that donated to the pre-fund that Brian was kind enough to create before the legal fund could be created.

When Brian was asked to go and possibly find Madeleine McCann countless times he finally took a chance to do so recently. What should have been over stated was the following facts based on this.

*Brian and Kevin did not and do not understand in how to start a legal non for profit fund, which takes a lot of time to do when you start at the beginning. So Brian decided to open an account based on the majoritys emails wanting to donate now and without a legal fund. Brian even posted statements concerning some of this.

Today I found out that we most likely need a tax lawyer and I have already contacted one and await his research based on the information that I have given him concerning where we are at right now. I even gave his receptionist this webpage right here to look over. I was told by another lawyer that we needed a tax lawyer because the fund involves donations from around the world.

As soon as I talk to this tax lawyer and if he agrees to help us all I will give all information to Brian to post here, including who this tax lawyer is and where he is located and more. I will only be involved with this unless we have legal advice and help concerning the non for profit fund. After the legal fund has been established we will go from there.

*Because of my day job I can not immediately do all of this and have been working for this when I am not working my day job. My day job consist of me being on-call 24/7, weekdays, nights, weekends, holidays because I am a wrecker driver (tow truck driver). I am doing the best that I can and I do understand how anxious everyone is, including me, but I am doing all this while working my day job.

*Misunderstanding are not any part nor will they be any part of what we are doing here at anytime, but if you feel that to be so please ask for a refund right now as Brian has already stated.

I will say that Brian and I should of took more quality time in investigating all aspects of having a nonprofit fund before we agreed to do this for everyone and that Brian based most of his past descisions on how the majoritys countless email out cries concerning little Maddy and Brian going and possibly finding her, but all of that is the past and this is now. We will continue to do the best that we can and if you want to stay and help great, if not great! I just want everyone to be comfortable in what is going on here.

Thank you,

-Kevin.

FarSideOfTheMoon
18th September 2007, 10:55 PM
And a selection of the latest emails from his site :cheesy:

Sorry for the length, but it shows the madness that is going on over there.


Hi Brian!
You have already heard from me quite a bit today on various dd's, but your more recent one with the elephant-esque figure in the middle, I took a quick nap today and saw a man dressed as an elephant, or with an elephant's head, sort of dingy, around the kids, sort of entertaining, but it seemed more like he was trying to conceal his identity from someone or for some reason. Is it possible that could be connected to your drawing? Also, I did see your drawing earlier today, so that may have affected my dream.

Hope this helps!!


Tara:)
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Hi, not sure, but everything helps.
Brian


:cheesy:;D:cheesy:;D



Hi Brian!
I spent all of yesterday reading your pages on the Madeleine McCann case--I was completely hooked on all of your findings. I went to bed with a mission, focused on having a dream that may somehow help to find her. Lastnight, just after I had fallen asleep holding my little son's hand, I got the distinct message "Andersen" shouted at me(could be spelled "Anderson"). I have included a link to what I could find when googling "Andersen" and "Madeleine McCann" and have come up with Anderson Cooper's interview with the McCann's, a transcript report from CNN. Here is the link, as the transcript is rather long http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/08/cnr.03.html (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/08/cnr.03.html) . You will find the interview I am speaking of by scrolling about 3/4 of the way down. I don't know if this helps or is even related to this case, but I was in the frame of mind where all my thoughts and energy were focused on Madeleine. I also found this article in Time about Anderson Cooper himself, where he clearly states on the second page that he can blend in with any group, from Neo-Nazis to pedophiles. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1202917-1,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1202917-1,00.html)
That sentence really jumped out at me, so I thought I would pass it on to you. As you know, Anderson Cooper is one of the most recognized media figures in all of the world, and works for CNN, one of if not the most reputable news outlets today. I could be way off, but when you feel something, you should just say it, right??

Also, when I googled Andersen + Portugal, I came up with this book by Arthur Andersen, Global Lessons in Activity-Based Management, and there is a large section dedicated to Portugal Telecom (correct me if I am wrong, has been mentioned quite a few times in this blog) and how it came to be what it is today. Here is the link to excerpts from the book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0471362883/ref=sib_pdp_cap_0/002-4301673-1728827?ie=UTF8&keywords=Portugal%20Telecom&ie=UTF8&v=search-inside#reader-page (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0471362883/ref=sib_pdp_cap_0/002-4301673-1728827?ie=UTF8&keywords=Portugal%20Telecom&ie=UTF8&v=search-inside#reader-page)

I dreamt differently than I ever have before, very choppy, like scenes flashing quickly. I also heard a word or name starting with M, not Madeleine, McCann, or Murat, possibly a native word. I repeated it to myself when I woke up in the middle of the night, and was convinced I would remember, but have forgotten now. That will teach me to keep a paper and pen next to the bed.

Earlier in the day, when putting my son down for a nap, I tried really hard to focus on where she might be. My eyes got blurry, and my wall looked like it had started moving, like trickles of water were flowing down it. I felt like it was a dark wall, like stone or concrete, and could possibly be a modern flat waterfall like the ones that are so popular today.

This is a long shot, and my first try at something like this, though I have always felt somewhat in tune with my intuitions. Again, like you probably know, I could be way off or this could have to do with someone else, but it felt so different than ever before, I felt the need to share. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me! I love your work and believe in your amazing ability. What you do with it is what makes you so special!

Tara, from California:)

ps-I cannot wait to look at your other cases!

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Thanks, please do, it would be really nice to have the other cases as active as this one.
Brian


::)



Hi Brian
Just to let you know that I’ve sent the below DDs to Leicestershire UK police, perhaps they will know the name Jose Covha
http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/5973.htm (http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/5973.htm)
Kind regards
Z
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Thanks Z, I just got an email saying a Jose Cunha is a prosecutor in the case...it maybe him.
Brian


This is actually an great example of how he works. He plucks out details from the media, sticks them in a drawing and waits for someone to report back to say his dream is a hit. Very, very simple and seems to be extremely effective with his followers.

And here is another example. Why are his followers so fecking gullble?



Hi Brian,

The numbers in DD5673 " 20111973" are interesting. Robert Murat's date of birth is 20/11/1973.

Ann

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Thanks Ann.
Brian


and again...although someone thinks he is called "Brain" now :smiley:



Hello Brain,I noticed in your dream DD5973 that the numbers 20111973 appeared it looked to me like a date of birth. In going back in the case file to where it showed Robert Murats car hire receipt this is his date of birth 20/11/1973. I was,nt sure if you had picked that up. I have never wrote to you before but check your site everyday for new information. All the best for your trip I hope it has a happy ending
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Thanks for reading, I was just informed of this about an hour ago.
Brian



More dream nonsense....



9.18.2007
Brian, thank you so much for all the work you've done on this topic... it's not just your dreams, although those are helpful, but your entire website with post after post after post of links and thoughts and crazy tangents and truly valuable insight (from yourself and others). It's really great, and forces anyone who thinks they "know" what happened to open their mind.

That said, I've got my own dream/intuition regarding Madeleine. I'm not sure I share your confidence that Maddie is alive, although I certainly believe it's possible. However, for two months now, whenever I've asked the dream spirits to shed some light on this matter, the primary thing that comes up is this: Harvest moon. I think there will be a big break in the case on or around September 26 , this year's full harvest moon. So most likely , your trip to Portugal will not happen, unless you make it there before then, and perhaps CAUSE the big break :)

I'm curious why this case has generated such a huge amount of interest and downright obsession on the part of so many, myself included. My husband doesn't quite understand the whole phenomenon and I'm unable to explain it to him, except to say it's an amazing mystery story.

LIke others, I pray for the little girl's safe return,

Kay
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Hi Kay, no need to thank me, my reader do most of the works.
As for the obsession in this case...the media is to take some of the credit, but basically when a child goes missing, any child, our human instinct to protect the innocent takes over.
Brian



'Dream Spirits'?????

Dr B
19th September 2007, 08:56 AM
mostly female responses.....? hhhmmmmmm:-\???

Julia
19th September 2007, 10:33 AM
Women do seem to be more inclined to woo than men - probably because old ideas about women's "intuition" and "sensitivity" die hard.

Cuddles
19th September 2007, 10:42 AM
Women do seem to be more inclined to woo than men - probably because old ideas about women's "intuition" and "sensitivity" die hard.

There was a thread about this on the JREF forum a while back. The general consensus was that women aren't really more susceptible, they just go for different woo. Women tend to go for new age stuff, psychics, crystals and the like, while men go more for UFOs, bigfoots, anything that sounds technical and uses the word "quantum" and so on. Unfortunately their search function seems a little broken at the moment so I can't find a link to it.

Julia
19th September 2007, 02:04 PM
Yes, that makes sense - I must have missed the JREF thread. I can't summon up the slightest bit of interest in the Bigfoot affair - probably because I'm a woman, or perhaps it's more of an American thing...

Cuddles
19th September 2007, 03:08 PM
Search seems all better now.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=86543

In all fairness, it's mostly anecdotes and speculation, but it does seem to agree with my experience. For example, the 9/11 conspiracy nuts are almost exclusively male, as are the bigfooters, but crystals and related things seem very much dominated by women. An interesting point raised is that while psychic clients are mostly women, there are a lot of male psychics around. It seems beliefs depend to a certain extent on gender (although I think this is probably more social than genetic), but fraud is equal opportunity.

Melanie
19th September 2007, 03:39 PM
In my experience a lot of male psychics are gay.

CalamityKate
19th September 2007, 04:40 PM
"I'm curious why this case has generated such a huge amount of interest and downright obsession on the part of so many, myself included. My husband doesn't quite understand the whole phenomenon and I'm unable to explain it to him, except to say it's an amazing mystery story. "




An amazing mystery story, eh? Well I'm sure the McCanns will take comfort in the fact that their daughter's disappearance is so entertaining.

But I think it is very common - people forgetting that for one family, this is horrendous reality. It might explain why people are so keen to speculate, get excited over the wildest, most improbably theories, and believe "psychics". Reading mystery novels, watching movies.... the more gullible and dim among us begin to get real life and fiction a bit muddled.

FarSideOfTheMoon
19th September 2007, 10:22 PM
Hmmmm, an interesting update today.

The original fund has met it's objective, and is closed, although you can still donate more if you want to help other missing persons worldwide ::)



fund details as of 9.18.2007 9:40 PM EST USA
total contributors: 126 | total amount: USD 5,512 (http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm) GBP 2,588 (http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm) | highest contribution: USD 200, (http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm)donated by: Elaine, Jacqui, Natasha, Chris, Ian and Sharon (http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm)

The goal of this fund has now been reached, and additional donations will not go into the trip to find Madeleine but be placed in a general non-profit fund to help find missing persons worldwide. If you still wish to donate to this fund, please click here (http://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FCWW_LIVE) and enter the amount you wish to contribute in the "On Location, Missing Persons Fund" (http://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FCWW_LIVE) box.


5k dollars is a hell lot less than the 50k he originally set out to scam, sorry raise I mean ::)

Now it looks like Kevin can't go because he would lose his job. I wonder why he didn't think of that in the original planning stage?

Brian will be going himself, I don't know what happened to the rest of the party.

It seems there have been unforseen difficulties setting up the non-profit trust ::)

So, anyway, to distract us from that bad news and get us back on track, 'Kevin' (who has never actually met Brian we now learn) decides to tell us a dream he has just had in which Brian finds a little girl. Oh, those heartstrings are being tugged real hard....:'(




9.18.2007
Monday Sept. 18th. 20:30 hours


From Kevin:


Subject: Brian and Kevin.


Hello,


The tax attorney that I had contacted yesterday called my office back today, while I was on a tow call, and left a message, which to say the least was a little embarrasing for me because I didn't want my employer to know what I was doing and because it would possibly raise questions concerning me leaving for this trip.


Basically the message stated that he did not have the means to handle "fee's" (meaning from the fund, for me and Brian and our expences) and he did not know of any other attorney that could do this either. It seems that finding someone to handle any of this right away, at least some one with a law back ground is not going to happen right away.


Based on what Brian and I discussed after the most recent Dream Talk recording/broadcast this evening Brian has placed his faith that the current fund could be used without going through the process of making it any more legal than what it already is. Basically the fund will be used to help search for and possibly locate missing/abducted children, with the first being Madelene MacCann. I found a website that may be able to help us. I am going to contact www.501c3.org (http://www.501c3.org/) and see what they can do.


I don't think I should go with Brian because I may lose my job in the process. Too bad because i have never met Brian in the flesh as of yet. On another note...


I had a dream recently that I was with Brian and a little girl in another country or "place", and I don't know where it was. I will say that we we're all walking on a cobble stone street of some kind and that there were old buildings, like in Italy maybe, even though I have never been out of the country in my life time so far. I don't remember what this little girl looked like either except that she was small, maybe 3,4 or even 5 years old..


We we're all happy standing there in one spot, after walking briefly, like in a circle around one another and I felt as if the little girl was just recently found by us. Brian was smiling and I seemed happy as the little girl was playful and happy. I think that I did have a camera with me but it was like I was not thinking about it, or something like that.


All of a sudden the little girl started running away from us like it was a game for her to do so. I could hear her laughing as she ran away. I suddenly felt that it was important that she remained with Brian and I, yet I just watched as she ran because it was a shock to me for some reason. Kind of like when something very unexpected happens yet you are to shocked to do anything about it. Brian then stated to me, "Kevin, go find her!". It was like I was granted permission to then go and bring her back to us, but why would any sane person need permission!? I then started running after her and the feeling of just how important she was started to over come me some how as I ran after her.


She was very quick but so was I, but as I came close to her she slowly became invisible, like that movie, "The Predator". I could still see her but it was like looking at moving water or waves of invisbility. I soon caught up with her and she then became herself again. She was just as happy as she was before she had ran away from us. I then looked around at the surroundings of where me and this little girl were and to find that me and this little girl we're in a very strange place. It was like a cave or an ancient building or maybe just an old building, I really don't know now.


To my surprise I could hear other children in shadows of this dark place. It was like I was in a trance because I was now shocked to know that there we're other children involved that are connected to the little girl and why me and Brian were also involved some how. The little girl with a smile then ran off again into the shadows, maybe to play with the other children I think. I then woke up remembering the same details of this dream, which you have now just read.


During the Dream Talk program (http://briansdreams.com/radio/index.htm) I mentioned some of this same this dream in relation to our guests research work on dreams, but I was afraid to go into details about it because i did not want to take away from what the guest (Bob Van De Castle) was talking about. After the program Brian told me that he had a similar dream, which is the reason in why I felt that I should document my dream here (I don't have a dream diary that I keep).


It is possible that my dream was about me and Brian being in Portugal and finding little Maddy alive, either way I hope she is soon found like all the other missing/abducted children around the world.


Thanks,


-Kevin

FarSideOfTheMoon
19th September 2007, 10:30 PM
Brian adds a note. I don't understand how he can go when the funds aren't released until 20th Ocotober? That is over a month away. He is supposed to be skint remember.

This will be interesting to see if the video commentary materialises.

I wonder if his passport will fail to arrive, or if some other issue will spring up preventing his trip. Or maybe he has a nice fortnight booked all-inclusive O0




NOTICE: I will be going to Portugal by myself and will leave as soon as my passport arrives.
It seems the only way to make this happen sooner is for me to go by myself directly to Praia da Luz and search for Madeleine, and it also seems to be the opinion of many of my readers.
I will not be posting when I leave, but will provided a video/audio documentary to all fund supporters while in and after I leave country. This material will be sent via email and I do have everyone that's contributed contact information.
There is now plenty of money in the fund for me to go and there is no need to donate anymore. The funds in this account will not be used until October 22nd when they become available, I will deduct the amount of trip expenses for me only from this amount, the rest will go into the non-profit that Kevin is working on.
We do have many idea's for the use of this future fund, but it dose not seem that it will happen before I leave.
Again, that you to everyone that's donated so far, and again, any further donations from this point out will not be used by me in this case but go directly in the OnLocation - Missing Persons Fund when properly setup.
I would also like to thank Kevin for all the work he has put into this thus far.
Brian

dee
19th September 2007, 10:32 PM
Oh my god, that's the biggest load of poo that I've ever read in my entire life!!!

So if Kev and Bri haven't met yet, how come they appear such close buds? Would you seriously go abroad with someone that you hadn't met or had no previous knowledge of?

After looking at the spelling and grammar content of both I believe that they are the same person. Seems to me Bri's cocked up bigtime with 'Kev' this time - does he really think we are that thick that we don't notice???

FarSideOfTheMoon
19th September 2007, 10:35 PM
A (not made-up ::)) email thanking him for listing the contributors to the fund as not many originations do this.

I'd be more concerned about data protection to be honest if I was a donor.

He seems to think that listing the people who contribute to his fund (where he has already explained how he can't say how the money will be spent) is a satisfactory fraud prevention measure. How strange.

Finally, isn't it odd how almost every email on his site, and particularly those which praise him, has terrible spelling and grammar? Either there are a lot of thick believers out there, or Brian is quite creative at generating these emails.





9.18.2007
Brian I applaud you for making the fund so much visible to the donors, not too many originations do this. In fact I believe you're the only one.
J
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Thanks J.

Brian

Mongrel
19th September 2007, 10:43 PM
does he really think we are that thick that we don't notice???
But we're not the target audience for his European holiday fund are we....


Finally, isn't it odd how almost every email on his site, and particularly those which praise him, has terrible spelling and grammar? Either there are a lot of thick believers out there, or Brian is quite creative at generating these emails.

To be fair have you looked at bleever boards recently? Dreadful spelling and grammar are par for the course

dee
19th September 2007, 10:43 PM
Finally, isn't it odd how almost every email on his site, and particularly those which praise him, has terrible spelling and grammar? Either there are a lot of thick believers out there, or Brian is quite creative at generating these emails.







To say that this man is only quite creative is an understatement lol. So, he's now $5000 better off - wonder when his power's going to go off again (the electrical kind, not the 'psychic' one)

FarSideOfTheMoon
19th September 2007, 10:56 PM
To be fair have you looked at bleever boards recently? Dreadful spelling and grammar are par for the course

Unfortunately I have :sad:

flyonthewall
20th September 2007, 01:59 AM
Hello, I'm new here. Just spent the last 2 hours reading posts. I'm very concerned about this Brian guy and his fund raising for a trip to Portugal.

I've looked at his site in the past and had the same feelings as you all have. I can't believe he's got over $10,000.00 now and is still asking for donations? How much is this trip suppose to cost????? >:-)

Cuddles
20th September 2007, 10:38 AM
Brian adds a note. I don't understand how he can go when the funds aren't released until 20th Ocotober? That is over a month away. He is supposed to be skint remember.

Well, he did say:

I will be going to Portugal by myself and will leave as soon as my passport arrives.
It's quite possible he won't be going until the end of October. Or the end of the year for that matter.;)

tolman
20th September 2007, 11:03 AM
It's quite possible he won't be going until the end of October. Or the end of the year for that matter.;)
I suppose timing is a tricky thing.
Early in an investigation, when the odds of someone being located are probably higher, one could always go out and pretend to have had some involvement in the discovery, or to have been prevented from making it happen faster.
Later on, if it looks fairly unlikely that a discovery will be made, it brings up the problem that it's hard to retrofit vague dream predictions onto bugger-all actual news.

On the flipside, when all other avenues seem hopeless, it may be a good time to separate some fools from their money, especially since it could be spun as a gifted person going out there reluctantly, not someone rushing to jump on an early bandwagon, and if expectations are already low, the loss of face from failure could be minimal "At least he tried..."

FarSideOfTheMoon
20th September 2007, 01:40 PM
Well, he did say:

It's quite possible he won't be going until the end of October. Or the end of the year for that matter.;)

He was supposedly getting his passport rushed through so he could go as soon as possible ::)

FarSideOfTheMoon
20th September 2007, 01:42 PM
"At least he tried..."

This is so true. The believers seem to think anything is worth a go. They don't comprehend the difference between doing something even slightly worthwhile and doing something completely worthless.

Scottish_Girl
20th September 2007, 02:04 PM
Anyone listened to the radio link where 'Brian' and 'Kevin' chat to each other?

http://www.globaltalkradio.com/ondemand/shows/dreamtalk/2007Sep11/index.asx

22:34 on the counter is around the time they discuss the trip to 'Spain'

FarSideOfTheMoon
20th September 2007, 10:15 PM
Latest update on his 'on location' page.

Anyone would think he doesn't want to go now :-X

And it just seems a teeny weeny bit strange, that he has only started to post 'critical' emails on his site recently, and the topics of those emails seem to reflect the insinuations being made in this thread 8)::)8)::)8)

Funny how a man who a week ago couldn't afford to keep his electricity on can afford to fund a trip to Portugal.::)


Hi Brian

I am not sure what is happening , I do look at your side, when I have the time,you said that you are going
by yourself, further on in the emails, it said you are going with a team of three,.
In the beginning you emailed, that 6000 is enough for you to go, later in the emails
it said that you need 50.000. It also said that the fund is closed for donations for your trip
I am a bit confused here, could you clarify it please. May be you should not go altogether
may be leave it to the universe, it will resolve itself. I am amazed that people spend
so much time on this? Posting , there are soo many children missing, that I feel a fund for
missing children is a better thing, there are families who do not have a fund at all and are in desperate need to have peoples support, the Mc Canns have a fund, which they could use to fund your trip, I would put this forward to one of the family members? Sometimes
you need to step back, it is time for the Mc Canns to contact you, if they do not want it
then bascially it is there loss. There is a lot of money in there fund, they could use it to like I said to fund your trip. We all want Madeleine
back, but it is the parents responsibility to do so and they are doing it there way, we all may disagree with the way they are
doing it., however we might need to accept it. They have to learn their own lessons in live, and this is may be one of their lessons. I feel the money in your fund, would be better spend for a case in your home country, where the parents do contact you
and ask for your help, so you might be able to help and support them? .
If there is an international fund set up for missing children I am happy to donate.
Ina


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Please read the pages about the fund, as the $50,000 was an estimate for a plan Kevin and I had that we thought would find her, it involved using a hidden camera and a listening devise and several other items I'm not going to mention...and it was before, not after, the change in plans.
But everyone wanted me to go right away and as cheaply as as possible. So I'm going by myself to Portugal and soon...the trip fund is at $5,512 and closed, but it will not be available for use until October 20th, 2007. So I will be using my own money, going by myself and will be reimbursed only for my expenses when I get back. I'm actually going to lose money doing this...which is fine with me. I'm taking the cheapest flight and hotel I can find, more than likely it will not be in the resort town due to the cost...whatever is left in the fund will be transferred to the np-trust when Kevin has it setup.
I should have never agreed to take funds for this trip in the first place, as I knew of all the problems it would cause.
As for the idea that spending all this time on one case affecting other potential cases...yes it is, and this was the reason I turned down going in the past. When I finally did agree to go, no one wanted me...I guess that's when news reports said Madeleine was in another country...I even agreed to go right before the birth of my daughter, but people were more concerned with the lasted TV news.
Now when everyone wants me to go, they want me to go right away and at minimum cost with doing the things I wanted to do when I got there. So, I'm going...and I will try everything in my power to find her.
Another thing, if the British Police really wanted me to go, I would already be there. With one phone call someone in the UK government could easily call the US Embassy in Portugal, and overnight I would have travel documents and a plane ticket.
Brian

But thankfully, his trip will be BROADCASTED via web cam. Brian, you are a bozo.




9.20.2007
TRIP WILL BE BROADCASTED VIA WEB CAM
To those that have contributed to the fund and wish to see what I'm doing on the trip, please visit:
www.BriansDreams.com/onlocation/live (http://www.briansdreams.com/onlocation/live)
to get audio and video updates of what I'm doing while in country, some of which will be live via web cam.
I will be sending everyone an email with instruction on how to logon to this section of the site, this will not happen until after I leave.
Please keep your logon private as duplicate logon information at the same time will be deleted.

FarSideOfTheMoon
20th September 2007, 10:15 PM
Anyone listened to the radio link where 'Brian' and 'Kevin' chat to each other?

http://www.globaltalkradio.com/ondemand/shows/dreamtalk/2007Sep11/index.asx

22:34 on the counter is around the time they discuss the trip to 'Spain'

Oh god that was hard work...:'(

bindeweede
20th September 2007, 10:30 PM
So I will be using my own money, going by myself and will be reimbursed only for my expenses when I get back. I'm actually going to lose money doing this...which is fine with me. I'm taking the cheapest flight and hotel I can find, more than likely it will not be in the resort town due to the cost...whatever is left in the fund will be transferred to the np-trust when Kevin has it setup.

Ok, I have not really been following this in detail, but I thought he said he was having difficulty paying his electricity bill. And a cheap hotel - but I thought the PJ were putting him up for free, for the duration, or longer.

There is a pink hotel, just up the hill from where Madeleine disappeared. Quite nice, and quite reasonable. Reasonable food too.

Nothing psychic. I stayed there about 5 years ago.

FarSideOfTheMoon
20th September 2007, 10:45 PM
So I will be using my own money, going by myself and will be reimbursed only for my expenses when I get back. I'm actually going to lose money doing this...which is fine with me. I'm taking the cheapest flight and hotel I can find, more than likely it will not be in the resort town due to the cost...whatever is left in the fund will be transferred to the np-trust when Kevin has it setup.

Ok, I have not really been following this in detail, but I thought he said he was having difficulty paying his electricity bill. And a cheap hotel - but I thought the PJ were putting him up for free, for the duration, or longer.

There is a pink hotel, just up the hill from where Madeleine disappeared. Quite nice, and quite reasonable. Reasonable food too.

Nothing psychic. I stayed there about 5 years ago.




In his radio show (which I just listened to :-\), recorded a few days ago, he claimed he had many offers of free accomodation. I'm not quite sure what is going on, maybe he is just working too hard on all those dreams and is a mite confused....

FarSideOfTheMoon
20th September 2007, 10:47 PM
The last email on his site today, features the customary spelling mistake in his reply :cheesy:

Heck he isn't even sure now that he can solve anything!!!


Hello Brian,

I just want to say to you that I still believe in you and your dreams. I think you can solve this case and I hope you will be able to travel to Portugal soon.

I think the PJ is corrupt and that Maddie is in the place you dreamt about.

I don't think you should loose money in this case. I think all your expenses should be covered and I think you should earn money as well because you put your time and effort in it. That's my opinion.

Keep up the good work, Brian!

Greetings,

Hedwig
in the Netherlands

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Hi, I'm really not concerned about that right now, and I'm working with several people in the area on what I want to do when I get there.
Not sure if I can solve anything, but I'm going to try...I will not discuss exactly what I have planned, but I can ensure everyone, it's not been tried yet.
Brian

bindeweede
20th September 2007, 11:16 PM
The last email on his site today, features the customary spelling mistake in his reply :cheesy:

Heck he isn't even sure now that he can solve anything!!!



I don't know who said it, and I'm sure it is a paraphrase, but it is something like....

"Sincerity. Great. Once you can fake it, you're made."

Psychics/mediums, sheng-fooey addicts, angel-healers, psychic surgeons, fairy-believers, dip-sticks, OBE believers, ESP-believers, God believers, DO take note. Delusion rules.

Admin
21st September 2007, 08:44 PM
He's going to put it on a webcam? :cheesy:

That will be riveting viewing.

I expect he'll find something of significance, inform the police (but not be able to announce what it is for security reasons), claim he's helped, and blame the police for not following it up when Madeleine's not found.

Now, where have I gotten that idea from? :ponder:

td17_uk
22nd September 2007, 11:46 PM
as you may or may not know im an ex-police officer, what brian is doing here regarding collecting donations from the public for an 'alledged trip' to portugal is far beyond merely offering false hope and i have organized a conference call with the F.B.I internet fraud office at the headquaters of the WV F.B.I for Monday morning to discuss this matter, luckily brian has made all the details a matter of public record (not exactly a criminal mastermind is he) so if they decide that its a scam or an offense has been committed they wont have to go far for evidence.

i will (within the parameters of any official investigation) keep you all posted

bindeweede
23rd September 2007, 12:01 AM
as you may or may not know im an ex-police officer, what brian is doing here regarding collecting donations from the public for an 'alledged trip' to portugal is far beyond merely offering false hope and i have organized a conference call with the F.B.I internet fraud office at the headquaters of the WV F.B.I for Monday morning to discuss this matter, luckily brian has made all the details a matter of public record (not exactly a criminal mastermind is he) so if they decide that its a scam or an offense has been committed they wont have to go far for evidence.

i will (within the parameters of any official investigation) keep you all posted

Please do!

chillzero
23rd September 2007, 02:19 PM
as you may or may not know im an ex-police officer, what brian is doing here regarding collecting donations from the public for an 'alledged trip' to portugal is far beyond merely offering false hope and i have organized a conference call with the F.B.I internet fraud office at the headquaters of the WV F.B.I for Monday morning to discuss this matter, luckily brian has made all the details a matter of public record (not exactly a criminal mastermind is he) so if they decide that its a scam or an offense has been committed they wont have to go far for evidence.

i will (within the parameters of any official investigation) keep you all posted

Brilliant!! O0

You know, we could keep you busy here. :)

fruitfly
23rd September 2007, 02:40 PM
Bravo!

Julia
23rd September 2007, 06:46 PM
Excellent! (puts on Mr Burns voice and rubs hands together). Just when you think the psychic predators in the McCann case have stooped as low as they can go, up pops another to exploit the McCann tragedy.

td17_uk
24th September 2007, 04:44 PM
i have just this minete come off the phone and i have to say the call was intresting to say the least they have told me that they need to look a bit closer at everything before deciding what if anything they can do and will keep me informed other then that i dont have much more to report at this time but believe me when i know so will you all

flyonthewall
25th September 2007, 03:53 AM
i have just this minete come off the phone and i have to say the call was intresting to say the least they have told me that they need to look a bit closer at everything before deciding what if anything they can do and will keep me informed other then that i dont have much more to report at this time but believe me when i know so will you all

Thank god someone is doing something!! Good for you td17 ;)

Fabala
26th September 2007, 03:47 AM
Thanks TD17 for putting forth the effort to get this looked in to... I'm from the US and only recently have I found about this person. Since figuring out his scam, I have wanted to see if he could be looked in to by someone on the authority level, but didn't know where to start. Thankfully you do... and if this avenue doesn't pan out and the FBI feels that he is staying under the radar enough not to get busted for criminal activity, perhaps an investigative journalist will be willing to look in to him. With a little research, they could easily expose to the mainstream media the truth about his dream scam and how he is using the Madeleine tragedy for his own personal gain.

On a side note: since it has become knowledge that you have contacted the FBI about him, Brian has stopped posting dreams and today he announced that he may be away for a while, due to a health emergency in his family. I am not saying that he is lying about the emergency, but it does sit as a convenience to not be posting "dreams" while he is being looked in to by the FBI.

(Not to be snarky, but: if he is such a successful and accurate seer of the future through his dreams, why didn't he see the family emergency coming? )

Matt
26th September 2007, 03:35 PM
(Not to be snarky, but: if he is such a successful and accurate seer of the future through his dreams, why didn't he see the family emergency coming? )

Perhaps he did and it's next week's emergency that he's dealing with now ::)

dee
26th September 2007, 04:11 PM
Have just been on Brian's website and noted that he buys and sells domains for a living (currently at 4000! (gasp)) Wonder if he knows that the website thehandsthatheal.com is the same as brianspredictions?

Also he does have an attorney in California, so why say in another posting that he didn't for his trip to Spain, I mean Portugal? 24 days until he goes supposedly, hope his passports turned up ;)

dee
26th September 2007, 04:12 PM
Have just been on Brian's website and noted that he buys and sells domains for a living (currently at 4000! (gasp)) Wonder if he knows that the website thehandsthatheal.com is the same as brianspredictions?

Also he does have an attorney in California, so why say in another posting that he didn't for his trip to Spain, I mean Portugal? 24 days until he goes supposedly, hope his passports turned up ;)

FarSideOfTheMoon
28th September 2007, 11:20 PM
Well, I've just returned, thankfully non-indoctrinated after a trip to the Bible Belt, and it seems it has all gone a bit quiet at Brian-Prediction-Land.

This is a terrible think to say - but what is the betting his father is really ill, and he isn't just using it as an excuse to get a few days off from posting on his site?

I know he has used the 'I might be in trouble if everything goes quiet...' routine a few times before.

bindeweede
28th September 2007, 11:37 PM
Well, I've just returned, thankfully non-indoctrinated after a trip to the Bible Belt, and it seems it has all gone a bit quiet at Brian-Prediction-Land.

This is a terrible think to say - but what is the betting his father is really ill, and he isn't just using it as an excuse to get a few days off from posting on his site?

I know he has used the 'I might be in trouble if everything goes quiet...' routine a few times before.

Thought you'd been a bit quiet recently. Is this Bible Belt where atheists are regarded as worse than child-abusers and rapists?

Surely not - they are Christians, after all.

tolman
28th September 2007, 11:45 PM
This is a terrible think to say - but what is the betting his father is really ill, and he isn't just using it as an excuse to get a few days off from posting on his site?

If his father is ill, and as well as being naturally upset about that, Brian's also upset by people across the world doubting him, he's only got himself to blame, since he's acted in such a way that it makes it hard to distinguish him from a simple charlatan.

Mongrel
29th September 2007, 12:30 AM
Thought you'd been a bit quiet recently. Is this Bible Belt where atheists are regarded as worse than child-abusers and rapists?

Surely not - they are Christians, after all.

No, the last poll suggested that was the whole of America O0, the Bible belt is where they're really fundamental!

bindeweede
29th September 2007, 12:35 AM
No, the last poll suggested that was the whole of America O0, the Bible belt is where they're really fundamental!

So that's another area off my list of holiday destinations.:-[

Actually, to be honest, it never was on the list.^-^

FarSideOfTheMoon
29th September 2007, 01:34 PM
Thought you'd been a bit quiet recently. Is this Bible Belt where atheists are regarded as worse than child-abusers and rapists?

Surely not - they are Christians, after all.

Closer to home, think Ian Paisley territory...

FarSideOfTheMoon
29th September 2007, 09:35 PM
Latest update:




9.29.2007
The non-profit fund has not been setup yet, until it is, I do not want to take anymore donations for it.
The trip fund total's are posted and any expenditures will be listed in detail, and will try my best to keep costs down as much as possible.
I will be leaving as soon as my passport arrives, however I will not be making my departure date and time public.
Trip information, video, audio and pod casts will be posted here (http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/live/index.htm) for contributors to view. I will be sending everyone logon information via email when needed...if you have donated anything towards either fund, or my website in general, you will be granted access to this area. (http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/live/index.htm) Access to this area will also be granted to anyone that wishes to contribute to this site before I'm actually in Praia da Luz, and may do so by entering the donation amount in the general site donation box. (http://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FCWW_LIVE&&) After I'm in country, sending logon instructions my not be possible.
Please do not contact me about your logon right now, as it's not needed. You will know when it's needed...trust me...if your not able to get in then, please contact me asap.
Brian

FarSideOfTheMoon
29th September 2007, 09:45 PM
Earlier his passport application was apparantly being rushed through. Now it seems, we have another 4-6 weeks delay.



Hi Brian,
You've may have already seen the above article, sent it to you anyway. How long does it take to get a passport in the US? I hope you go soon Kate McCann is dying before our very eyes. She is is so skeletal now that people are fearing for her life. Take care and all the best for you.
Lisa
England
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Hi Lisa, and thanks for this, I hope they are able to check out Robert Murats home in Praia da Luz and another other property he may own or has control of.
4-6 weeks, and this is using the USPS's expedited service which includes overnight mail to and from Washington DC.
Without paying for the fast track service, up to 12 weeks. The only way faster would be if I made an appointment in DC and then drove there myself.
Brian


Despite the US Department of State saying that it normally takes 2-3 weeks

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_831.html


He isn't being specific as to whether he is getting the expediated service or not.



After you apply - You will receive your passport: Normally, it takes 2-3 weeks to receive your passport from the date you applied. If you haven’t received your passport and are traveling within the next 7 days, please contact the National Passport Information Center (http://travel.state.gov/passport/about/npic/npic_898.html).


The routine service is currently taking 10-12 weeks, however he only needs to splash out $60 for the expediated service.

But he was claiming on 9th September that the



2) US Passport procedure is underway, and will be rushed.


So if he had started applying back then, he should be receiving his passport early to mid October at the latest.

He must be so hoping this all comes to a close, before he runs out of excuses.

FarSideOfTheMoon
29th September 2007, 09:50 PM
And on 22nd September, he posted this reply:




Hi Brian, I wanted to thank you for your drawling over the weekend stating Maddy is ok.I know you wont be able to tell us all when you will be going to find her.I do pray it is soon.I think something could happen if you dont reach the area in time but i understand you cant just get on a plane and go without a plan in put forth.I do think you know where she is as i have stated before.Please,Brian believe in yourself and your dreams and bring her home.We believe in you.TO ALL BRIANS READERS PLEASE,SAY A PRAY FOR HIM AND MADDIE AND GOD SPEED on your return.Thank you for your time your unpaid time at that for all you do for missing people.God Bless you and your family.


Thank you,.


Vivian
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Hi Vivian, all that I'm waiting on is my passport...when it comes in, I'm there...and will try and stay as safe as possible.
Brian




So, can we deduce that he is going as soon as his passport arrives - but he possibly hasn't applied yet?

Plus, he has already said he can't leave until after 20th October - as that is when the funds are released from his online payment solutions provider.

td17_uk
30th September 2007, 08:59 PM
you know what really puzzles me is that brian is a remote viewer thats his speciality that said if he remote views then why the hell does he even need to go to portugal.

he's never felt the need to go to this extent before and claims to have many sucess's to his name, the reason he is dioing this for this case is simple he knows that there are many people out there willing to hand over their cash whereas in other case the following has not been this strong

tolman
30th September 2007, 09:21 PM
you know what really puzzles me is that brian is a remote viewer thats his speciality that said if he remote views then why the hell does he even need to go to portugal.
The same reason he sells lottery predictions - to make money, with the same underlying non-logic. If he could remote view, he wouldn't need to travel, so he wouldn't need to ask for money, and if he could actually predict lottery numbers, he certainly wouldn't need to ask anyone for money for anything (electricity, server space, travel, etc) since he'd be rich.


he's never felt the need to go to this extent before and claims to have many sucess's to his name, the reason he is dioing this for this case is simple he knows that there are many people out there willing to hand over their cash whereas in other case the following has not been this strong.
Possibly it's also the case that this particular investigation has stayed high profile. Once he'd stuck his oar in, it wouldn't be easy to abandon it completely and it hasn't yet faded into obscurity. Many people may well be giving him extra hassle asking what he's been doing on this case, and going to Portugal (or pretending to) is a useful way to seem involved, as well as make some profit.

FarSideOfTheMoon
30th September 2007, 10:01 PM
he's never felt the need to go to this extent before and claims to have many sucess's to his name, the reason he is dioing this for this case is simple he knows that there are many people out there willing to hand over their cash whereas in other case the following has not been this strong

I find his success rate quoted on his site as strange, I'm not aware of him successfully finding any missing persons. None at all.

td17_uk
1st October 2007, 02:22 PM
a little update on whats going on i havent heard back from the STATES regarding my initial conference call so just to make sure something is happening i have just been on the phone with someone in the Leicestershire police side of the enquiry and i have to say they seem alot morereceptive and have logged it as an official crime file to be attatched to the main madeleiene mccann investigation case file.

they also said that they would also pass the details onto the mccanns themselves and give them the option of making an official commplaint against our mr ladd should they choose to.

the bad news however is that what brian is doing may not actually be illegal as people are free to give or not so this has produced a worrying grey area but the officer i spoke to does genuinely share my concerns and has promised that it will be given attention

tolman
1st October 2007, 02:40 PM
I presume it'd be illegal if he didn't go and just kept the money, but for that maybe he'd have to have claimed to have gone and have it proved that he didn't.
If someone challenged him early, he could always say he was about to go, or come up with some other excuse and offer to return the donations or pass them on to charity.

Fabala
7th October 2007, 01:40 AM
a little update on whats going on i havent heard back from the STATES regarding my initial conference call so just to make sure something is happening i have just been on the phone with someone in the Leicestershire police side of the enquiry and i have to say they seem alot morereceptive and have logged it as an official crime file to be attatched to the main madeleiene mccann investigation case file.

they also said that they would also pass the details onto the mccanns themselves and give them the option of making an official commplaint against our mr ladd should they choose to.

the bad news however is that what brian is doing may not actually be illegal as people are free to give or not so this has produced a worrying grey area but the officer i spoke to does genuinely share my concerns and has promised that it will be given attention


Ok, there is a gray area on this... but isn't it illegal for him to be conducting an investigation in Portugal? Maybe the Portuguese authority need to be given a heads up (and with his real name... it's not Ladd, from my understanding). He has already scoffed at people warning him that he may get arrested... he bets he won't (get arrested). He is weaving his words so as to look like that he has inside information... he is openly going after Robert Murat, implying he is going to investigate him and his mother's house so he can find some kind of chamber where Madeleine is hidden.

Maybe this case will finally be the downfall of his stint as a what-ever-kind-of-charlatan he has tailored himself to be. It is both sad and frustrating that people really believe in this man and all that he says. He's got his own little flock of sheeple that refuse to take their blinders off and see the man for what he is: a fraud.

FarSideOfTheMoon
7th October 2007, 10:51 PM
Not an awful lot of news on this at the moment. I did lose a few more brain cells listening to his radio show again. According to that he has now applied for his passport using expediated service. So we will see....

In the meantime, he is still getting emails from complete fruitloops.



10.6.2007
Hi Brian, Case 347 and 526

This was a very vivid dream I had this morning and woke up at 3.30am:
They are planning to butcher her
Too many high profile people are involved
A woman is going to butcher her with one other person.. a man I believe...the other people involved know about this...
Jenny Murat is a very cruel woman
(I told a number of people before this came on the news about Jenny Murat, and when I saw her picture I told everyone that it was her I saw in my vision..at the time I got nothing about Robert Murat...’I’m just being honest about this’!!)
Cannot remember the name of the butcherer
MADELEINE HAS GOT TO BE FOUND NOW
SHE IS DEFINITELY STILL LIVE
Robert Murat’s basement
Lots of others are in the tunnels
I Woke up in a sweat and shaking
If search goes on very soon, she will be found alive.
DO NOT TRUST THE POLICE
DO NOT TRUST THE JUDGE
Robert Murat is now SCARED
Other children are down by the boats???
There was 272 and a iron ring handle ...it opened into a tunnel....there is also a false brick wall...red bricks...but not very strong....knock this down ....many are still alive behind this...
(in the vision there was a cooker ...pull the cooker away and hit the wall...it will cave in...there is another entrance to this...don’t know where though...not sure if the cooker is supposed to symbolize something ?)
In the dream I faced a man who knew I was snooping about and getting very close, and he pulled a knife on me...we had a fight with the knife and I won. He was heavily bleeding.
THIS IS A VERY VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION OUT THERE.
They obviously do not want to get caught.
I knocked down the red brick wall and called out into the darkness, she fell into my arms...she is safe.
The search should start from the beach.
-----------------------------------
I am trying to raise some money to go to Portugal, but I am absolutely broke. I will try my best to go though and get a few others interested in going with me. I will try and get a bank loan to go... I do not want to go alone.
I will need torches if I go. I remember using torches
Something has changed in this whole case.....She must be found now!!!!!
Whoever goes over must use a computer in order to get emails out immediately any new information gets stumbled upon even if the email is only to relatives..this is your proof.
As soon as she is found, take pictures of madelline and post email immediately to a trusted source.
Then the world will know!!
I would lay down my life for this little girl, and if I go I probably will...(not sure what that’s supposed to mean!!! ) It would not put me off from going!
*As regards to Rosemary Edwards, even though the police suspect no foul play. I do believe she was murdered. I have had a very strong feeling about this. There is just something not quite right about the whole affair. Find out the original location of where she went to and DNA evidence will come to light. Its more than a feeling. I just know she was murdered.
Not sure if you should post this for I do not want to prolong the anguish of the whole family.
There is something satanic about the case. There is a lot of satanic activity in the area.
Keep up the good work Brian,
Regards Paul
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Thanks Paul, will post your dream.
Brian

FarSideOfTheMoon
7th October 2007, 10:53 PM
Note customary poor grammar and spelling.




Hi Brian,

I am reading your site for some weeks now, and since found it, I am really impressed of the work you’ve done, despite having a big family and not being remunerated for it.
I didn’t want to bother, just want to tell you that I have the phone number of a psychic woman in Romania who has already solved out many cases. Her name is Ildiko Balmus, and I know she has been even invited to work for CIA, but finally did not accepted. She is a very simple woman with 5 children and lives in Romania. She went to Portugal around the 6th of June in order to look for Madeleine. To trace the way Madeleine has done, she needed to go to the place where she was abducted from, or to touch Madeleine’s favourite toy. She travelled back few days later and I was very surprised she did not came up with any result. Then called her and talked to her directly. She was quit reticent in talking to me when heard the subject of my call, but anyway she told me that the police knows who the abductor was, and that between the people involved, there is a Russian too. I know that always when she has an opinion on something that happened in a crime, she speaks out-laud, but this time she was very quiet. I didn’t understand firstly why wasn’t she speaking more about this case. But after reading your site, I think this might be because she is afraid. Maybe she realised what is going on there, she felt very vulnerable, and that’s why she didn’t want to go forward with this. But I am sure she is willing to go on and tell the truth as she is very sincere and straight.
I was thinking that if maybe you want her to help or to give her opinion to you, I think she would be very happy to do so. I would propose her to pay the flight to Portugal as she has no possibilities to pay it by herself.
Today I red a news saying that she has found something in Romania in a case of a lawyer who disappeared recently, and after the police failed to find her, she succeed to go on with the research. And she wants to go on till she will find the all truth. She can trace the exact way the abductor does. She is really amazing, and I really think she can assist you in finding Madeleine. If she is not alone, I think she is not that afraid of the authorities. In case you want to contact her, I have her phone number. I am not sure she speaks English, but I can help you with the translation.
In case you think this might help, please let me know, and I will be very happy to do something.

Best wishes to your entire family and many thanks because they are so comprehensive and let you spend so much time for others.

Jenny
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Thanks Jenny, and I will contact her and keep her personal information private.
Brian

FarSideOfTheMoon
7th October 2007, 10:56 PM
Some of these people actually have children unfortunately:



Hi Brian , great work on Maddies case. My daughter (aged 9) goes to a school here in south UK with a couple of hundred kids, this week they are learning about stranger danger and they got talking about Madeleine, my daughter stood up and told everyone about your website and how you work and where you beleive Madeleine is, they all sat and listened, so keep up the good work and my daughter will keep up the advertising for your site! Amazing how opened minded kids are and how many of them were interested in your website address, loads of love Rachel and Emma x
On another note, my little sister (21) just got back from hols to Praia de Luz she said you absolutely could not see the tapas bar from the McCanns apartment and it was quite far away.

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Tell your daughter thanks, and her school is doing the right thing.
Children are here to remind us what we've forgotten...I learn from mine everyday.
Brian

bindeweede
7th October 2007, 10:59 PM
All fascinating stuff. But he suddenly realised he would need a passport on the 7th of September. And he has only recently applied for one......?

FarSideOfTheMoon
7th October 2007, 10:59 PM
And a message from the man himself. He is now classifying himself as a tourist.



THANK YOU:
I just wanted to say thank you too all the local people of Praia da Luz including the Polķcia Judiciįria for all the help and information they have given me so far on this case.
I now feel very confident with the information I have and you're continued support, I will have a very productive visit.
Again, anything that you tell me will remain private and will not be posted on this site.
I'm not a private detective nor have I been hired by anyone to investigate this case, I'm just a tourist coming to visit many of my new found friends and to investigate some of my own personal dreams :)
Brian


Another completely barking email. A common theme now is that he claims he tries to contact all the people mentioned in the emails being sent to him. As if.



hi brian,

in a dutch magazine there is a story about a psychic lady called marchien who went to PDL last week.
she tried to "see" and "feel" using pictures of Maddie.
once she was in a trance she stated Maddie was no longer alive. She wondered off, somehow got down some stairs, came out under the swimmingpool and has died there.. she states she was suffocated...fumes from the pool.or something like that...
she also talks in a "manlike-voice" while in trance and says; "she will not be found until we say so!' but she will be found in october, as a kind of punishment for her parents" Marchien says she does not feel "good" about Kate...she knows more then she's telling...

what do you feel/think about this?
do you already know when you are going to fly to portugal?

regards lynn

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Hi, I do understand how psychics can 'feel' things, but I can't do it when I'm awake.
Note sure about the parents, but a punishment like this is never in order.
I do not personally know this psychic, but am trying to contact her.
Oh, not sure on the exact date, but will be very soon.
Brian

FarSideOfTheMoon
7th October 2007, 11:01 PM
All fascinating stuff. But he suddenly realised he would need a passport on the 7th of September. And he has only recently appied for one......?

Yep, funny that 8)

Fabala
8th October 2007, 09:47 AM
The need for a passport took its time coming to him in his dreams, maybe? You would think he would sleep on this issue so he can dream and find out when the State Dept will be sending it to him. :smiley:

FarSideOfTheMoon
8th October 2007, 06:25 PM
Brian latest - he is fascinated by Quantum physics, thinks Einstein might be wrong, scientists are too educated, and a 5 year old girl will tell us everything.



What do you think about Mr. Krugels invention?
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Hi, not sure, if it does work he should make more and share this with the world.
I'm very curious to see what's in the box and how it works with GPS other that plotting where you have been.
I try and keep an open mind towards everything, but is he's not willing to show how it works, or at least let people see what's inside I would be skeptical.
Did the McCann's see what was in the box?
If he is a ex-private investigator it could be his experience and intuition rather than his technology that has helped him solve so many cases...if so, why give the box credit.
I find the field of quantum psychics fascinating, and anything is possible if this is what he truly uses.
Off the subject, I believe that many highly educated people put too much faith in what they have learned...if you base your PHD on a continuation of someone else's work...ie Einstein...and he turns out to be wrong...then everything you've contributed in the same field could be wrong too...yet personal ego continues the same research.
I think the answers many scientists are searching for are so simple, they have too much education to understand them...maybe concrete reasoning is not all what's it's cracked up to be.
Maybe a five year old child will answer solve the theory of everything mystery...or maybe it's not a mystery at all...we just think it is.
just my 12 grade opinion....Brian

bindeweede
8th October 2007, 06:57 PM
Farside,

To quote Brian..I find the field of quantum psychics fascinating

I can't understand quantum physics, let alone quantum psychics. It must come down to all of that brian-power he uses.

And isn't this a beautiful line....

maybe concrete reasoning is not all what's it's cracked up to be.

dee
8th October 2007, 09:15 PM
All fascinating stuff. But he suddenly realised he would need a passport on the 7th of September. And he has only recently applied for one......?

S'pose the trips going to be cancelled then ;)

Did I hear here that his real name isn't even Brian Ladd - it's a nom de plume (or plum in his case)?

bindeweede
8th October 2007, 09:34 PM
S'pose the trips going to be cancelled then ;)

Did I hear here that his real name isn't even Brian Ladd - it's a nom de plume (or plum in his case)?

I also read something here saying that is not his real name. I've tried to find the post, but can't.

Fabala
8th October 2007, 09:58 PM
Quantum Physics makes some people think of the String Theory...

Quantum psychics have the "String-along" Theory: where they string you along with guesses and "visions" until they bridge the gap between themselves and every last bit of money in your pocket. :smiley:

td17_uk
9th October 2007, 12:13 AM
i ran a full background check on him (i wonder if i can claim this back where do you send invoices to uk-skeptics....just kidding) and the name address seem to match unfortunatly criminal records are often incomplete and i was unable to tie any down to him but everything else seems to tally

dee
9th October 2007, 08:22 AM
I also read something here saying that is not his real name. I've tried to find the post, but can't.

Phew, thought I was having 'visions' then and could claim I was psychic lol

Scottish_Girl
9th October 2007, 01:01 PM
Good Grief.


>>Hi Brian I hope you don’t mind me contacting you like this, but I stumbled onto your website a few days ago and I noticed on your missing persons pages you have one about Madeleine McCann. Well I have been very emotionally attached to this case almost from day one, far more so than I can really understand why. I am not a psychic but I have found out some very interesting stuff about her mysterious disappearance, and I think, though I am by no means certain that I know the date of her return. ......<<

Lots of woo

then

>>Finally, as I said I believed from the start, this is all part of something bigger than a simple kidnapping. No other story like it has been so global. There are websites
set up for her support, fundraising events around the world, balloons
released in Italy, school kids flying kites for her in Afghanistan, people
like me wearing wristbands in every country around the world, and here in
Britain, even after five months she is STILL on the front page of at least one national daily paper EVERY day. As I have felt, all along, her reappearance, apparently from the dead, would be seen as many as some sort of miracle, and that word will
almost certainly be on the front page of every paper around the world when
she is found. And don't forget, the McCann’s paid a visit to the Pope early
on, the one man in the whole world who could declare something as a miracle.
But why? Well, this is it! I believe Maddie is part of a sign, a sign of the imminent second coming of Christ! <<

:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:




http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/private/5441page13.htm,

tolman
9th October 2007, 01:32 PM
It seems weird that people believe that if their deities actually existed, and they wanted to come down to Earth, those deities would need or choose to make some cryptic signals, rather than just being clear and unambiguous.

Matt
9th October 2007, 01:49 PM
But why? Well, this is it! I believe Maddie is part of a sign, a sign of the imminent second coming of Christ! <<

:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:




http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/private/5441page13.htm, (http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/private/5441page13.htm,)

So Jesus kidnapped Maddie. Dirty kiddie fiddling bastard. Never trust a grown man who wears sandals and a nappy.

Dr B
9th October 2007, 03:40 PM
:fsm1:..........it was me.............;D

FarSideOfTheMoon
10th October 2007, 09:07 PM
It gets better, read his reply to this one. :smiley:


Hi Brian,

As the last thing before going to bed tonight I“ve read your post addressed to the McCanns and, boy, did it frighten me!

Haven“t being sending you emails or posting because my last remarks you posted on your site were not understood by your other readers - they didn“t understand I was quoting from the PT press - and also because I can see you have your hands full as it is.

But this dosen“t mean I don“t follow your site and your posts - that is why I was astonished by your post!

I“m sure you have your inside info and all that but why is it so important for the MC to come forward just now?

Do you think this new cop is "out to get them" at any cost? So that the case is closed, just like that?
It seems to me - only my opinion - that the British government is backing the MC all the way, even maybe putting a little pressure for the PJ to close the case and let the MC go on with their lives, would you agree on this?
Then if that is the case - and it would explain all the PR people and the sponsors, etc, maybe the PT police are just fed up of beeing blamed by having some rotten in between them and are planing to have this new guy to investigate all the way, right as if it was from the begining - if that is possible.

Never forgetting there are also UK police over in Luz.
What“s your feeling on this new twist by PJ?

Also if the MC lied about the children not being alone - and did you see the 3D video the PJ has got of the reconstruction of the Tapa“s Group whereabouts on the night that proves that, w/ so many people coming and going an abduction would have been impossible - then I agree that one has to worry about the MC.

The Times, a respected english paper, i would say, reports that the new PJ guy wants MC and the friends all questioned again...

Keep well, hope you travel to my country soon and help clear some points in all this!

Rita
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Hi Rita, I this this new cop is trouble for the McCann's...I believe his ego will put them and their friends in jail if he gets his way. I have been sent news reports stating the PJ are searching the apartment where the McCann's were staying, but I think the PJ is doing much more than just searching the apartment, and I also believe that they want everyone to know they are searching the McCann's apartment. Most likely this is a trick to get someone to come forward with what they know...ie, the McCann's friends.
I would also expect the Portugal press to soon be posting a story stating that if anyone has lied to the PJ about what happened that night, they will be charged for interfering with an ongoing criminal investigation. And I'm certain they will also leak something along the lines like 'we have 100% proof the McCann's friends are lying' This maybe an illegal scare tactic, but if anyone did not tell the whole truth...it's going to work. This is why I have been saying for months to the McCann's and anyone else involved...if you did not tell the whole truth...confess now.
I would also keep an eye on members of the PJ that have secretly stayed on the case, as I believe these are the ones involved in the cover-up. If you really want a plot to work, why not put people on the case that truly do not know what really happened that night...this way they cannot be caught in a lie.
I have also been doing some investigation on the people who have been 'leaking' information to the Portugal Press...as this is highly illegal according to their criminal laws.
This is what really bothers me...many of the locals know some of their authorities are corrupt, and many of them fear them as well. But if all the people in Praia la Luz got together and demanded action and a full house to house search done by outside authorities, I believe Madeleine would be found right away and the truth would come out...and the corruption would be exposed. Remember, I firmly believe this is a child smuggling operation, not just one person abducting a child. This would also make good financial sense for the town, as until she is found, tourism will continue to suffer.
I also still believe Madeleine is alive and very close...their is a possibility that I'm wrong, but so far I have not had any dreams stating otherwise and think she is dead will not help anyone but the PJ.
I beg the citizens of Praia da Luz to get a petition circulated right away demanding action, and bring this terrible event to a close. It should not take me going door to door with a video camera to get something like this started.
If a resident of Praia da Luz wants to start a online petition (http://www.petitionspot.com/), I would gladly help spread the word about it and I'm sure the world media would do the same.
And one more thing I wanted to make clear, please stop calling me a psychic...as I am not, and will be using more that just my dreams when I finally do get over there. I generally don't like to brag about myself but I do have an extensive honorable military background with 12 years active duty and 2 years reserve time, hold a secret DOD clearance, have been to military psychological ops schools including S.E.R.E., hold a private pilot's license with over 200 hours of flight time, been to 10 countries, have an IQ of 137, passed the DLAB test, worked on hundred's of missing person's cases, and most importantly, I understand how people think and how to motivate them. I may not be very good at spelling and grammar, but I like to think I know what I'm doing :)
If you are a private investigator in the case and currently in the area, I would appreciate if we could speak privately about what your not suppose to be doing. (brianswebshop2@aol.com?subject=PI CONTACT 36271 (please do not change this subject line))
Also, again, if you're a PDL local and want to help me when I get there, please send me a private email using this address (brianswebshop2@aol.com?subject=PRIVATE: LOCAL, PDL 36288 (please do not remove this subject line)) and subject line.
I will respect your privacy, and not release anything you tell me to anyone...period.

bindeweede
10th October 2007, 09:31 PM
This is why I have been saying for months to the McCann's and anyone else involved...if you did not tell the whole truth...confess now.

If he had been in contact with the McCanns, I don't suppose they would have confirmed it. Bit I think it is very unlikely.

Also,.....
been to 10 countries, have an IQ of 137,

but wasn't sure he'd need a passport to go to Portugal. The IQ figure might have a decimal point missing somewhere.

FarSideOfTheMoon
10th October 2007, 10:19 PM
I'm assuming he was in the army when visiting those countries....

bindeweede
10th October 2007, 11:01 PM
I'm assuming he was in the army when visiting those countries....
Don't know about the US army, but would he not still need a passport?
Or is there military/diplomatic immunity?

bindeweede
10th October 2007, 11:22 PM
Don't know about the US army, but would he not still need a passport?
Or is there military/diplomatic immunity?


Unless he was part of an invading force, of course, which the US has a habit of supplying.

tolman
10th October 2007, 11:26 PM
Still, it *is* nice to know Brian doesn't want to brag about himself, isn't it?

I bet he's way to smart to be taken in by a lottery number prediction scam, or anything like that.

I guess a lesser kind of genius might also not have seen the point of making public pronouncements about how the corrupt police in a country are engaged in cover-ups while planning to make a trip to that country to do investigations into a high-profile case that are possibly against the law.

bindeweede
10th October 2007, 11:34 PM
Of course he does not want to brag. How could this ever be considered as bragging......

I generally don't like to brag about myself but I do have an extensive honorable military background with 12 years active duty and 2 years reserve time, hold a secret DOD clearance, have been to military psychological ops schools including S.E.R.E., hold a private pilot's license with over 200 hours of flight time, been to 10 countries, have an IQ of 137, passed the DLAB test, worked on hundred's of missing person's cases, and most importantly, I understand how people think and how to motivate them. I may not be very good at spelling and grammar, but I like to think I know what I'm doing :)

The very idea...........

tolman
10th October 2007, 11:53 PM
Does he say how many of the missing persons cases he worked on actually got solved with his assistance?

tolman
10th October 2007, 11:55 PM
Are 'secret DoD clearances' the kinds of things people should generally talk about having?

bindeweede
11th October 2007, 12:03 AM
I am sure I do not have an IQ of 137, but I did not produce this....

Then if that is the case - and it would explain all the PR people and the sponsors, etc, maybe the PT police are just fed up of beeing blamed by having some rotten in between them and are planing to have this new guy to investigate all the way, right as if it was from the begining - if that is possible.

bobdezon
11th October 2007, 01:26 AM
I once had to sign the official secrets act when I worked for a government agency. ;)

dee
11th October 2007, 10:46 AM
I once had to sign the official secrets act when I worked for a government agency. ;)

I did too when I first left school and worked in a highly sensitive role for a large company. I've some advice for Brian and his spelling - in word use F7 - it's an automatic spell check lol

Julia
11th October 2007, 02:46 PM
So Jesus kidnapped Maddie. Dirty kiddie fiddling bastard. Never trust a grown man who wears sandals and a nappy.

The words "suffer little children to come unto me" are also a dead giveaway...

dee
11th October 2007, 05:53 PM
I was just about to say that Brian may have had a change of heart as he was giving some of his site money to charity, I looked at how much he was giving and the last donation reads as follows:


3.5.2007
Donation made to Groundspring.org for Global Fund for Children
Date: 03/05/2007
Transaction #: VUGA0E81C0F8-433461
Donation Amount : $5.00
Tax Deductible Donation Value : $5.00

Recognition:
BriansPrediction.com



So for all the dosh that he's raking in he gives a paltry $5 - insult or what? That's not even every month, there's a relatively big gap between payments. What do they say about a fool and his money being easily parted...? ::)

I've just noticed that it's tax deductable, so am I right to think that he gets that back at the end of the financial year?

Julia
11th October 2007, 06:26 PM
A stingy git is a stingy git even if he does have an IQ of 137.

td17_uk
11th October 2007, 08:55 PM
Are 'secret DoD clearances' the kinds of things people should generally talk about having?


most company clerks have secret ratings they need to have to do the job next he will have run the pentagon during his time in the military.

plus he says he went to all those military schools he didnt say he actually passed any of the qualifications LOL

FarSideOfTheMoon
13th October 2007, 07:56 AM
Hmmmmm



10.10.2007
Still waiting for my passport to come in the, it's suppose to arrive via overnight mail when ready.
As soon as I get it, I will be on a place to Lisbon...I will not be using any of the fund for air fair, as a very nice lady from Japan has offered to pay for it...Brian

siestatime
13th October 2007, 03:47 PM
So he“s coming over here - allegedly.
Is there any way of tracking him, or have I been watching too many 007 films?

Fabala
14th October 2007, 04:23 AM
So he“s coming over here - allegedly.
Is there any way of tracking him, or have I been watching too many 007 films?


If you pay up you will be allowed access to the live section of the trip page: you will supposedly be able to watch what he is up to, because he claims he is going to broadcast his journey via webam.

siestatime
14th October 2007, 04:02 PM
"If you pay up"

Not going to happen. :smiley:

FarSideOfTheMoon
15th October 2007, 11:10 PM
Latest updates:




10.13.2007
I have still not left yet, but all plans are in order...I will leave the same day my passport arrives.
If I do not get it by Monday, I will check on it's status.
Brian





10.15.2007



I'm very concerned about the current search being performed by the PJ.

It's seems they are focusing completely on looking for a body and not a live child...if this information is correct, they are more than certain that the McCann's know what happened to her.
I ask anyone in the area to please keep an eye on what they are doing, especially anyone coming in to and out of Murat's house.
I have no reason to believe that Madeline is dead, and if she is alive and in the area, now is a very good time to watch everything going on.
A video camera or camera phone would be something very useful as well.
I believe that some members of the the PJ are so desperate to frame the McCann's, rather than expose what's really going on, they make take any action necessary to do so.
I will be there as soon as my passport arrives...if I do not have it by the end of the day (it's 2AM here), I will tomorrow call and find out what's taking so long.
Brian




I'd have called a long time ago if I was him.

incognito
16th October 2007, 09:56 AM
Has anyone noticed the amounts of money Brian is claiming to have taken in as donations? If you look up the amounts donated they don't match the end column for amount he's put in. Run currency convertor and you'll see what i mean. For instance there are a few UK donations for $200 and he has them down as receiving $122.20 USD when in fact it should read $406.58 USD

Also, did you notice he's taking the donations through his store? Easy way for him to get out of doing anything wrong. He can easily say people are just donating to his site. Check it out: http://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FCWW_LIVE That's where he's getting people to donate.

td17_uk
17th October 2007, 01:10 AM
i've just been having a nose around in the missign persons section of brians website and i found this, its an RV that wasnt completed before the person was found (according to brian) just look at all the awaiting information lines, i though the whole point of an RV is too find out what you need to know whilst having the bare minimum information in your possession after all isnt it that which makes it a gift

MPRV004

Remote Viewing Date: 1.30.2006
Person in question: COREY KNOETTGEN
Missing Date: ? Age Now: ?
Missing City: Missing State : N/A Missing Country:
Circumstances: (pending more information from requester)
Latest Photo:
http://www.briansdreams.com/warnin1.jpg
Reward Offered:
Remote Viewing Sketches: (pending more information from requester)
My translation: (pending more information from requester)
My recommendation: (pending more information from requester)
Leads / Reader Comments: click here to access (http://www.briansdreams.com/warnings004.htm)
Talk About This: HIS WEBSITE (http://www.rel-mar.com/corey.htm)
Contact me about this case: 004 (dd@briansprediction.com?subject=MISSING PERSON INFO CASE #002)
Date Located: 2.5.2006

incognito
17th October 2007, 03:17 AM
Has anyone noticed the amounts of money Brian is claiming to have taken in as donations? If you look up the amounts donated they don't match the end column for amount he's put in. Run currency convertor and you'll see what i mean. For instance there are a few UK donations for $200 and he has them down as receiving $122.20 USD when in fact it should read $406.58 USD

Also, did you notice he's taking the donations through his store? Easy way for him to get out of doing anything wrong. He can easily say people are just donating to his site. Check it out: http://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FCWW_LIVE That's where he's getting people to donate.

I see today he's still not going to portugal and now he's made a post on his site about the errors in money. Imagine that !!!

Here's what he says:


10.15.2007
Lynn from Florida pointed out there maybe a mistake in the numbers above, she is rechecking the totals and I will post any changes.
I copy and pasted these donations directly from my Kagi account page, and added up the first number after the word 'fund', which is always the US dollar amount.
It's also possible that I may need to add the last number to any donation that was not sent in USD...if so, I apologize for this and will get it fixed.
When she is done, please feel free to recheck the totals if you like.
Brian
No passport today, will try and get the status of it tomorrow...also, the no-profit fund Kevin and I were wanting to setup will not happen anytime soon.
Again, I will not be accepting any donations for something that's not ready.
I have more than $5,000 in donations for the trip to Portugal and since my airfare is now going to be paid for, it look's like I will not be using all of it.
The funds are still in my control and will be paid to me on the 20th of this month, more that likely the wire will not be sent out until Monday the 22nd.
I say this because if you donated and could not really afford it, please ask KAGI for a refund...I will approve it right away :)
Brian

He must be reading this site. Looks like he's trying to cover himself quicksmart.

FarSideOfTheMoon
17th October 2007, 07:51 AM
Hi Brian :wavey:

incognito
17th October 2007, 09:01 AM
Hi Brian :wavey:

LOL farside ;D

incognito
17th October 2007, 09:18 AM
Here's a copy of his passport receipt. Notice the date is cut off. He probably bought this yesterday. How much was the passport total? $61.25? He said he paid almost $200.

http://www.briansprediction.com/onlocation/passport%20reciept.jpg

td17_uk
17th October 2007, 02:48 PM
i just did a bit of maths regarding the totals page of brians fund and just taking into account GBP and EUR donations it comes to a grand total of &#163;3208 alot more then the &#163;2888 he claimed to have had in total including all the other currencies, judging by the rest of the donations we're looking at around &#163;4500 and that is pounds not dollars for which he claimed the total was around $5,800.

call me suspicious but isnt it funny how he suddenly managed to square away his power supply problems around the same time as he closed the fund

and all the balances have dissappeared of the page too which is strange as he had closed it on the 28th of september why would those totals change now

td17_uk
17th October 2007, 02:54 PM
another thing that just struck me is that he has used a payment client (as far as i can see specifically for this fund) so surely there would be no need to add it up himself it must have a balance and payment history page

maybe we should ask him to cut and paste a copy of that into his site but i cant see that happening can you?

incognito
17th October 2007, 04:18 PM
another thing that just struck me is that he has used a payment client (as far as i can see specifically for this fund) so surely there would be no need to add it up himself it must have a balance and payment history page

maybe we should ask him to cut and paste a copy of that into his site but i cant see that happening can you?

I just checked the site again and he has a different balance sheet up from yesterday :-\ Should have copied it. >:-)

siestatime
17th October 2007, 05:42 PM
Hi Brian :wavey:

FarSide“s right; either he“s reading this, or one of his flock is reporting back with our latest speculations.

FarSideOfTheMoon
17th October 2007, 06:20 PM
He is aware of this site.

His manager Kevin posted on this thread.

http://www.ukskeptics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=943

Fabala
17th October 2007, 11:45 PM
He is aware of this site.

His manager Kevin posted on this thread.

http://www.ukskeptics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=943


Ah yes... the manager he has never met face to face... odd one, that is...


As for Brian reading this site... I would say that he probably does: he knows he is running a scam and the only way to stay on top of it is to keep an eye on what his detractors are saying.

incognito
18th October 2007, 12:36 AM
Ah yes... the manager he has never met face to face... odd one, that is...


As for Brian reading this site... I would say that he probably does: he knows he is running a scam and the only way to stay on top of it is to keep an eye on what his detractors are saying.

He is such a con artist >:-) I am embarassed to say that I used to receive his dreams in my email :'( At first I thought WOW this guy is amazing, until my rational side of me said "something is not right here" So I started checking and noticed that he would have these dreams that were already news. He also has alot of excuses on why his dream newsletter is late all the time. He posts them out with little date stamps on them and you think WOW. But if you have any kind of sense at all you can see exactly what he's doing and that's without going to the extent of how you guys have exposed him on here which is brilliant by the way!

I hope he reads this site and I want to tell him that what he does is disgusting. He is a disgusting human being who prays on people who are in complete despair.

I don't think the people who want to believe him are stupid. I think the people who want to believe him are human. I understand why people want to believe him. People want to believe in hope, because without hope what do you have?

I hope Brian Ladd is found out and that someone in some authority can manage to shut him down. I hope that Brian Ladd is found out for the fraud he is and that his name makes world news and that he is completely shamed for what he's done to people.

dee
18th October 2007, 09:27 AM
Ah yes... the manager he has never met face to face... odd one, that...

Didn't Brian say once that they'd done a radio interview together, and one time say that they'd never met? His stories change so much that I cannot keep up with them. I just hope that my belief in Karma can be justified soon!

FarSideOfTheMoon
18th October 2007, 10:36 AM
Didn't Brian say once that they'd done a radio interview together, and one time say that they'd never met? His stories change so much that I cannot keep up with them. I just hope that my belief in Karma can be justified soon!

They do the radio show together but they are in different locations. I don't recommend listening to it, I wasted 15 minutes on it once, time that I will never get back.

dee
18th October 2007, 11:19 AM
They do the radio show together but they are in different locations. I don't recommend listening to it, I wasted 15 minutes on it once, time that I will never get back.

I bow to your superior knowledge and will give it a huge miss then lol.

Fabala
19th October 2007, 05:20 AM
Yes, they have never met... on the "trip" page is an email from this "Kevin the manager", and in it was this gem of a statement from him:

"I don't think I should go with Brian because I may lose my job in the process. Too bad because i have never met Brian in the flesh as of yet. On another note..."

aussiegirl
19th October 2007, 02:48 PM
Hi All
I too read this guys site and thought maybe he has something. But really the whole passport thing sucks......This guy claims he was in the military for years with 2 different overseas posting....but on his application posted on his site it clearly states no previous passport was held. Not sure how it works in the States but my friends who have been in the army here had to have passports...... Anyway glad I realised what a big fraud he is and wont waste any more time reading his site
Aussiegirl

Fabala
19th October 2007, 07:56 PM
Some info I found about the US military and passports: In the US, active members of the US military traveling under orders are exempt from needing a passport.

dee
21st October 2007, 08:28 AM
I awoke early today and have just checked Brians site, I was expecting a huge drumroll and a voice telling me 'Yep he's over in Europe'. What do you see on the site in it's place? Yet another excuse as to why he's not gone yet :smiley:

Am I right in thinking that all the funds have cleared for him to go now seeing as it's 21st and that all he's waiting for is his passport to come now?

Fabala
21st October 2007, 09:49 AM
I awoke early today and have just checked Brians site, I was expecting a huge drumroll and a voice telling me 'Yep he's over in Europe'. What do you see on the site in it's place? Yet another excuse as to why he's not gone yet :smiley:

Am I right in thinking that all the funds have cleared for him to go now seeing as it's 21st and that all he's waiting for is his passport to come now?

I think it takes a few days to get the funds to him from that account, after they have been released... he should have the monies probably no later than Tuesday.

I saw that another passport issue has come up, as well... seems his application has been placed on the "routine" route. This means his passport may not be in, anytime soon. But, by reading his update page, it looks like his wife has him busy for right now... seems she is making him turn his "office" room into a room for their boys (I find it sad that he has made his kids sleep in the livingroom so he can have an "office". As well, it sounds like if it was left up to him, he wouldn't give his room up to the boys. Man, he sure does have his priorities straight... >:-) )

td17_uk
22nd October 2007, 12:09 AM
I think it takes a few days to get the funds to him from that account, after they have been released... he should have the monies probably no later than Tuesday.

I saw that another passport issue has come up, as well... seems his application has been placed on the "routine" route. This means his passport may not be in, anytime soon. But, by reading his update page, it looks like his wife has him busy for right now... seems she is making him turn his "office" room into a room for their boys (I find it sad that he has made his kids sleep in the livingroom so he can have an "office". As well, it sounds like if it was left up to him, he wouldn't give his room up to the boys. Man, he sure does have his priorities straight... >:-) )


makes you wonder why now i mean all that redecorating and stuff can cost a pretty penny wonder where thats coming from seeing as he managed to sort his electric out maybe its an inheritence or SOMETHING!!!!!!!

Fabala
22nd October 2007, 04:58 AM
From the "news" section on his site:

"Lights will be out for the next four days, I have a small generator and might be able to get online for a little while. I have managed to get the power bill under control and within our budget now (about $300 a month), and long my wife and I can keep from seeing a doctor, we should be just fine. The power company will not grant a extension for any reason this time...I did try."


This is pathetic!!!! He opted to run a campaign to gather money so he can take a nice vacation in the name of going to find Madeleine, when he should have been getting off of his bum and taking care of his home life. This man needs to get his priorities straight... not only is he a scam artist, but also a selfish person that only seems to focus on himself and what he can do to further his scam. Without a doubt, the ones to suffer the most are his kids: he has 2 young boys and a newborn daughter... to which he needs to realize that their welfare is far more important than him going to Portugal to have "dreams". Besides, there are more than enough people working on the Madeleine case... and he knows what he will be doing (conducting his own investigation and interfering in the case) is illegal.

Ugh... this is crazy...

Cuddles
22nd October 2007, 10:41 AM
I have managed to get the power bill under control and within our budget now (about $300 a month)

$300? What's he doing with all that power? I spend less than that per quarter, and my home only has electricity so that includes heating and cooking and everything.

FarSideOfTheMoon
22nd October 2007, 12:18 PM
At least we definately know he is reading this thread. He made a mention to the 'skeptic site' in one of the letters published on his site, but didn't explicitly name which site for the rest of his readers.

Of course we know he only makes up, sorry, publishes these mildly critical letters on his site, so he can post his justifications.

happyanne
23rd October 2007, 07:36 PM
You need to see this!! Whatever next>:-)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FhAlCLO0rfU

seren
23rd October 2007, 09:44 PM
The soundtrack alone makes me want to hurl.

Scottish_Girl
23rd October 2007, 10:30 PM
You need to see this!! Whatever next>:-)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FhAlCLO0rfU


Shame youtube wont let anyone post links in the comments..a link to this for example.


http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=7430 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=74308)

I'd love to post that on there.

The woman who made and posted the video obviously has disciple delusions. :cheesy:
She is referring to Brian as 'Him' with a capital 'H' like he is some sort of deity.

Nuts. Totally, totally barking.

td17_uk
23rd October 2007, 11:37 PM
good old brian, hes posted the link to the passport status checking website so we can all check that he has ordered it. Unfortunatly you need the last four digits of his social security number to do so (which he knows full well and has decided not to give out) another pointless exercise in trying to prove he's legit only problem is alot of his followers will see this as him being open and upfront when oh when will they learn

Lost Rosie Specs
24th October 2007, 02:41 AM
only problem is alot of his followers will see this as him being open and upfront when oh when will they learn

They have! Or a nice big chunk of them anyway ;) Someone kindly posted on his proboard forum a link to here and the other site (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=7430 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=74308)).
The administrator saw sense and left and many members have too. The forum is still ticking over but the seed of doubt is sewn...shame it wasn't a 'miracle seed',eh? :cheesy:

Lost Rosie Specs
24th October 2007, 01:39 PM
Erm, just a thought. He's supposedly flying out from Washington (a 2 hour drive from his town), the passport office is in Washington. Why not pop by the offices, get the passport and catch the next available flight to Lisbon?
There's also this 'nice lady from Japan' that has paid for his air fare. Over $5000 apparently. Strangely though, if you look up ticket prices they start at just over $700 and go up to $1,900.

bobdezon
24th October 2007, 03:33 PM
maybe he only did pay $1900 for the ticket, he might be predicting she will send him another $3100 at some undefined point in the future ^-^

td17_uk
24th October 2007, 06:51 PM
once again we're back to the power being off again, i thought he had that sorted but no more lies from good ole brian.

seems he still willing to jet off to portugal to spend other peoples money leaving his wife and newborn daughter at home to fight off the collectors

Scottish_Girl
24th October 2007, 08:47 PM
They have! Or a nice big chunk of them anyway ;) Someone kindly posted on his proboard forum a link to here and the other site (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=7430 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=74308)).
The administrator saw sense and left and many members have too. The forum is still ticking over but the seed of doubt is sewn...shame it wasn't a 'miracle seed',eh? :cheesy:

Have you got a link to his proboard forum please? I'd like to take a look at that. (Tried finding it myself but I found loads more weirdos also called Brian on Proboards, but not 'Him')

FarSideOfTheMoon
24th October 2007, 08:52 PM
I think it's this one:

http://briansdreams347.proboards59.com/index.cgi

Scottish_Girl
24th October 2007, 08:55 PM
Thanks Farside.

Just found this during my googling. :cheesy:

http://debunkingbrian.blogspot.com/

Edit: Hmmm, just had a closer look and there is not much on it....but the Gay Bar story is the same as all the others...adding info after the date it happened.

Fabala
24th October 2007, 10:49 PM
He definitely can go to DC to get his passport on a faster track. When I was getting mine for travel to Europe a few years ago, I was worried I wouldn't get it in time. Being as I do live in the DC area, I was told that all I had to do was call the State Dept if I had only a few days left before my trip and my passport was still not in my hands, to set up an appointment and show just cause (my flight schedule) as to why I needed my passport ASAP.

Lost Rosie Specs
24th October 2007, 11:43 PM
I'm interested to see if I get spam as well. I've heard others say Brian runs a domain selling business, but I have no proof of that myself.
.

He does indeed. Lot's of them! As does his wife....

http://www.arb-forum.com/domains/decisions/573172.htm

Fabala
25th October 2007, 02:25 AM
Hmmmm... his last statement on his fund details page is "emails have been sent". Being as he has said that when he got the passport and had everything in place, contributors would get an email ( in it would be the password that would allow them access to the page he will be using to update things when he gets to Portugal)... so I guess it is safe to assume that either he has the trip finalized, or he decided the time is right to start playing the "I'm now in Portugal" scam.

I am not sure which scenario is in place... in a way I want to say he will be faking it... but then again, I wouldn't put it past him to leave his family, literally, in the dark and in a financial mess so he can go on a nice little vacation... all in the name of perpetuating his dream scam.

td17_uk
25th October 2007, 01:29 PM
i see he's taken a majority of the posts off his page including all the one questioning his motives so much for being open and transparent

td17_uk
25th October 2007, 01:44 PM
ignore my post above i was looking at the wrong page but it occured to me i dont think he is even going to leave the country and that is why his web casts are password protected its so he can make sure that only his non-questioning followers will see it, i bet they wont be treated to live shots of the apartment or the ocean club or anything else that will prove he's there and not in the arizona desert.

the reason he decides to go by himself is evident that way theres no way he can be in any photos etc so he will be using pictures pulled off the internet claiming to have taken them himself

vbloke
25th October 2007, 02:02 PM
ignore my post above i was looking at the wrong page but it occured to me i dont think he is even going to leave the country and that is why his web casts are password protected its so he can make sure that only his non-questioning followers will see it, i bet they wont be treated to live shots of the apartment or the ocean club or anything else that will prove he's there and not in the arizona desert.

the reason he decides to go by himself is evident that way theres no way he can be in any photos etc so he will be using pictures pulled off the internet claiming to have taken them himselfIf that's true, then the EXIF data should catch him out.

Scottish_Girl
25th October 2007, 06:56 PM
No postings today.

Perhaps, as I type, he is sitting at 30 thousand feet, in economy class with his knees round his neck, singing 'viva espana'

or perhaps he has no electricity again ::)

bobdezon
25th October 2007, 07:01 PM
You mean he cannot predict when his bills are due? O0

FarSideOfTheMoon
25th October 2007, 10:22 PM
Latest not-in-any-way-made-up-at-all update is comedy gold.

He is a bit confused between Michelle/Michael.

Note customary poor spelling throughout. What is it about Brian and his fans and their shared inability to spell?

But he is a phenomenal guy though! ;)




10.25.2007
Hi Brian,


Ive been following your site since day one with regards to the Madeleine Mccann Case, i think what you have done, and what your are still doing is great.... :)


What i cant understand is how people are quick to critize you regarding your trip to Portugal.


If those who are questioning your actions regarding the passport delay actually bothered to read through the pages, then maybe they would have a different opinion.


People keep asking you the same questions over and over again...it seems to me as though you have to keep repeating yourself even though you have clearly stated where the progress is up to.. why cant people just read your replies..it would make life alot easier... :)


For those who cant find the Fund Details


Here is the link with all the required information with the regards to the passport delays etc......
http://www.briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm (http://www.briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm)


Finally just like to say i think you are a phenomenal guy...


Hope you and your family are well..


Keep up the good work ;)


Michelle


United Kingdom


reply
Thanks Michael...and thanks for the kind words.
Brian

incognito
26th October 2007, 12:57 AM
Seems Brian has some new fans. Take a look at this site they've made up. Look in the chatterbox ;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D

http://searchformaddy.proboards76.com/index.cgi

http://searchformaddy.proboards76.com/index.cgi?board=cb

They're onto him big time. Looks like Brian has alot of explaining to do :cheesy:

MischiefMonkey
26th October 2007, 12:57 AM
Having spent some time trying to subtly question the belief in Brian some of the posters on http://briansdreams347.proboards59.com/index.cgi had I was a little worried about the 'troll' who posted recently. I didn't think they would abandon their beliefs so readily. However, it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that some of the hard core posters have left a little wiser:smiley:

Good job who ever the very vocal voice of reason there wasO0

Fabala
26th October 2007, 03:24 AM
I can't read the brian board... :( one needs to register... to which I have, but have yet to get past the "account pending approval" part.

Lost Rosie Specs
26th October 2007, 11:53 AM
Seems Brian has some new fans. Take a look at this site they've made up. Look in the chatterbox ;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D

http://searchformaddy.proboards76.com/index.cgi

http://searchformaddy.proboards76.com/index.cgi?board=cb

They're onto him big time. Looks like Brian has alot of explaining to do :cheesy:

No longer in the Chatterbox - there's a folder now dedicated to uncovering his fraudulent antics ;)

Lost Rosie Specs
26th October 2007, 12:23 PM
Check out today's latest. Someone is getting under his skin. Notice how he still doesn't come back with any plausible explanations.

(start reading at 10.26.2007)

http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm

codger
26th October 2007, 04:18 PM
Slightly off topic here but I've just followed one of the links to his site.

I'm gobsmacked. There are people in the world, presumably with the right to vote, who not only believe this nonsense but actually send this idiot money?

I'm in the wrong business. All these years I've busted my balls trying to make an honest living when all I had to do was become a fat couch potato family man, post some random pictures of me and possible wife and kid, pretend I have some weird psychic ability (without even having to demonstrate it!) and ask total strangers for money so I can go on holiday to Portugal.

Sheer brilliance. Way to go Brian. You figured out that there really is one born every second. If I wore a hat I'd take it off to you. Respect.

Mind you, before all this praise goes to your head I would like to say that you're a lying scumbag who is about as psychic as my dogs and I hope that one day something really horrible happens to you. What's more, I hope that I'm there to see it.

Sorry folks - rant over but this thread really did make my piss boil.

Anyway, back on topic, I've got £50 that says he never gets to Portugal. Any takers?

FarSideOfTheMoon
26th October 2007, 05:37 PM
Check out today's latest. Someone is getting under his skin. Notice how he still doesn't come back with any plausible explanations.

(start reading at 10.26.2007)

http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm


Interesting to read the stuff he has posted on that page.

He seems to be showing fustration that he has got himself into this situation. You've got to wonder why someone protests his innocence so much.

Whether or not he applies for a passport is irrelevant as he has the funds to do it now. It is quite telling however that he obviously didn't apply when he was implying he had, and only did so later.

I wonder if he will use this continuing focus on his trip as a get out clause - he will blame the skeptics for ruining it and inventing some reason as to why he can't go.

Having said that, if he has the offer of a free ticket and the funds to support himself, why wouldn't he go for a nice trip. I know if I had the opportunity to nip over to the states for a week all expenses paid, I'd take it.

Admin
26th October 2007, 07:11 PM
As we're talking about Brian Ladd there's really no way that we can trust anything he says - that includes every claim he's making about this trip to Portugal fiasco.

But, to be honest, I'd love to see him go. ???

That's because if he does it might just make some of those credophiles who believe in him eventually realise they've been conned.

Even people who normally believe in psychic nonsense have seen through Brian's scam but isn't it amazing how there are always some people who will blindly cling to their beliefs no matter what?

True believer syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-believer_syndrome).

td17_uk
27th October 2007, 06:50 PM
what gets me is he has stated he may or not find madeleine but the whole trip is for that and that alone i suggest those that have contributed let him spend the cash and then demand a refund after the fruitless trip (because it will be fruitless and full of inane excuses as to why he couldnt find her, i just cant wait to see the crap he comes out with when he flys home alone (by fly home i mean from the portuguise lookalike scenery of the arizona desert)

i want free unedit access to his webcam without having to put money in his pocket thats the only way he could even begin to claw back some credibillity and to be honest if anyone needs credibillity its him

Fabala
28th October 2007, 07:21 AM
td, since you have experience in law enforcement: what is your take on what he recently put on his "fund details" page about breaking into Robert Murat's house? He doesn't come straight out and say that he is going to, but he implies he will have to if Mr. Murat doesn't invite him in to search for Madeleine.

I know that his word is not to be trusted... that we really don't know if he is going... but surely this new developement of criminal intentions on a felony level should be taken seriously, no?

http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/funddetails.htm



"Getting a flight to Lisbon is easy, and there are lots of them...I'm driving my pickup to the airport and leaving it there. My wife is basically in tears because she thinks I'm going to get into trouble over there, she knows how persistent I can be. I keep asking myself what other option do I have besides breaking into Murat's home and looking for myself....if noone else is going to do this, and I think she is still there...what else can I do? I have thought this over long and hard...and if I'm not invited in...how else can I see what's in that hidden room is what I have been seeing in so many of my dreams."

td17_uk
28th October 2007, 09:16 PM
http://briansdreams.com/onlocation/

if you go to the above location you will see that brian is no longer gioing to portugal and intends to refund the entire fund.

i was not intending to go public with my involvement in this decision but as brian felt the need to do so i just want to make a few things clear.

1. Although i am a member of this forum and a self proclaimed skeptic this was not in any way a good vs evil, skeptic vs believer battle i purely acted in the way i thought most relevant as a former police officer.

2. I would hope that every one here will see this for what it is and that is someone seeing sense rather then any sort of devious U-turn Mr Ladd had no reason to listen to me but he did and i believe in giving credit wheres its due. I actually applaude Mr Ladd in his reaction to this and I hope that he realises that he has priorities to his family at the moment and not to anything else

3. i dont wish to see Briansdreams closed or put out of buisiness because on the whole it is a personal decision to either believe or disbelieve his gift and i for one even as a skeptic cannot prove either way and so i am not in a position to say his gift does not exsist. I just would like to see Brian and the others who claim simular to think carefully before they act because at the end of the day no-one deserves to suffer for the sake of trying to prove a point, let alone a family have to suffer for those peoples actions.

i hope we can now draw a line under this matter as i think you will all agree that Brian when faced with the facts has acted responsibly in making his decisions and as such i hope he will turn his attentions to helping where he can without putting himself in any risk of trouble and ensuring that his family is in no way put out by his actions.

Please do not see this as any sort of victory it has been an unfortunate state of affairs from the start, i only hope that now we can all resume a more dignified and responsible debate

Admin
28th October 2007, 09:41 PM
Excellent work TD. Well done.

You know what? This is exactly how the police and authorities should deal with people like Brian Ladd.

Skeptics like us on this forum cannot really do anything other than make postings on websites and forums in the hope that we have some influence on the supporters of the likes of Brian. It's no where near enough.

So, I'd like to congratulate you (TD) on using your influence and contacts to make sure that the relevant action will be taken against Brian Ladd should he attempt to continue with this plan of his.

He seems to have got the message however, and has indicated that he will refund the money raised to those who have donated to his fund.

I do wish that the police would clamp down much harder on those psychics who wish to involve themselves physically, not just psychically, with crime cases.

Admin
28th October 2007, 09:52 PM
Please do not see this as any sort of victory it has been an unfortunate state of affairs from the start, i only hope that now we can all resume a more dignified and responsible debate

I concur with this view.

Let's see this as a victory for common sense (all round) and deal with the situation with dignity and decorum.

Let's just be pleased that a satisfactory outcome has been realised.

Fabala
28th October 2007, 10:20 PM
Thank you TD... now we can move on.

td17_uk
28th October 2007, 10:46 PM
just recieved my first official 'fan mail' from a subscriber of brians site i must admit it was funny i could almost hear her huffing and puffing as she wrote it LOL

FarSideOfTheMoon
28th October 2007, 11:03 PM
just recieved my first official 'fan mail' from a subscriber of brians site i must admit it was funny i could almost hear her huffing and puffing as she wrote it LOL

Td, did you expect that he would publish that in full on his trip page?

I'm happy we've reached this conclusion, but I still have a rather bitter taste in my mouth about the whole thing.

td17_uk
28th October 2007, 11:26 PM
Td, did you expect that he would publish that in full on his trip page?

I'm happy we've reached this conclusion, but I still have a rather bitter taste in my mouth about the whole thing.

personally i cant believe anyone would do something so stupid i sent that email to him privately in order to allow him to reverse his plans to travel to portugal and allowing him to say it was for whatever reason he wished.

i had no intention of ever publicly admitting my involvement as i didnt regard this this either as a personal crusade or a personal achievment i only did what i felt as a former police officer i was obliged to do to make it public as brian has done was just a pathetic attempt on his behalf to discredit me which has backfired as any email i recieve that contains defamatory or slanderous comments will be passed onto my solicitor and will in fact be used against him citing the people who sent them as agent provocateur for him as it will have been his website that instigated them. If he wants a fight that could easily have been avoided well he's got it no more Nr niceguy

Bubblesxx
29th October 2007, 05:07 PM
What do you mean No more Mr Nice Guy? Has Brian done anything directly wrong to you?

I have read his site and sometimes it does seem to make some sense. I mean, I have read loads of people saying things about the time he lied about the lottery (pretty lame) and the fact that he waits for stories to unfold in foreign countries and then he actually pretends to dream them and writes 'dreams' hours later after events and posts them as before.

But lend me your ears for two seconds....... forget about Brian Ladd for a moment - just think how many people have actually read that site and all of the content about Madeline McCann? Think about how many people have taken the newspaper cuttings, and have sat there and tried to think of reasons why this tragedy happened, all those people racking their brains and trying to outdo eachother to see who will be the first to post on his site. Fair enough you may all think that Brians website is a waste of time and energy, but tell me this - if it has made all of these people sit there and think a bout Madeline and help eachother to try and figure out plans, and give eachother comfort is it soooooo wrong?

I would honestly say it is disgusting if he is trying to make money from people after this terrible misfortune..... but if his site is encouraging people to think and raise awareness for Madeline.......?

I know it is wrong and I am not sticking up for him as I am not a member and have never given him one american dollar (well I am from London so that would actually be hard for me to do anyway).. but I dont understand why people are so adament in getting The Police involved and having Brian arrested?

O and I am new to the forum - maybe this wasn't the best way to say Hello!:tongue:

bobdezon
29th October 2007, 05:10 PM
He is raising funds, not awareness. People are already well aware the child is missing.

Admin
29th October 2007, 05:20 PM
O and I am new to the forum - maybe this wasn't the best way to say Hello!:tongue:

No not really. ;D

You're basically saying that all of his lying, cheating and fraud is justified because it raises awareness of Madeleine McCann's plight.

I would say that Brian Ladd is doing it all to raise awareness of Brian Ladd. ;)

His attempts to cash in on such a tragic case are disgusting - he's no better than the other psychic predators who've attempted to profit (both financially and with publicity) from this case.

tolman
29th October 2007, 05:26 PM
...forget about Brian Ladd for a moment - just think how many people have actually read that site and all of the content about Madeline McCann? Think about how many people have taken the newspaper cuttings, and have sat there and tried to think of reasons why this tragedy happened, all those people racking their brains and trying to outdo eachother to see who will be the first to post on his site. Fair enough you may all think that Brians website is a waste of time and energy, but tell me this - if it has made all of these people sit there and think a bout Madeline and help eachother to try and figure out plans, and give eachother comfort is it soooooo wrong?
There's already way more than enough guesswork-based theorising from a worldwide collective of armchair detectives, none of whom seem likely to be of any use unless they have actual information (not 'psychic' visions) that the police don't. Almost everyone will be working on rather less information than the police have, with the disadvantage of lots of press speculation and misinformation that the police will, one hopes, be well informed enough to be able to ignore.

Have any crimes or missing-person cases ever really been solved by some random person doing some amateur thinking based on public-domain information?

Sure, if a million people start guessing about what might have happened, some might end up being right, but if there's no way to tell the right from the mass of wrong theories, such people wouldn't be any practical use.

Bubblesxx
29th October 2007, 05:52 PM
No not really. ;D

You're basically saying that all of his lying, cheating and fraud is justified because it raises awareness of Madeleine McCann's plight.

I would say that Brian Ladd is doing it all to raise awareness of Brian Ladd. ;)

His attempts to cash in on such a tragic case are disgusting - he's no better than the other psychic predators who've attempted to profit (both financially and with publicity) from this case.

He is raising awareness for Vrian however it hasn't actually been great awareness has it? I mean before the Madeline Case he seemed pretty genuine, however after more and more people reading into it they have found reason upon reason to call Brian a fake. Does he want a status like that?

He has offered to refund all of his money that he has given, is that saying something? :sad:

td17_uk
29th October 2007, 05:53 PM
What do you mean No more Mr Nice Guy? Has Brian done anything directly wrong to you?

I have read his site and sometimes it does seem to make some sense. I mean, I have read loads of people saying things about the time he lied about the lottery (pretty lame) and the fact that he waits for stories to unfold in foreign countries and then he actually pretends to dream them and writes 'dreams' hours later after events and posts them as before.

But lend me your ears for two seconds....... forget about Brian Ladd for a moment - just think how many people have actually read that site and all of the content about Madeline McCann? Think about how many people have taken the newspaper cuttings, and have sat there and tried to think of reasons why this tragedy happened, all those people racking their brains and trying to outdo eachother to see who will be the first to post on his site. Fair enough you may all think that Brians website is a waste of time and energy, but tell me this - if it has made all of these people sit there and think a bout Madeline and help eachother to try and figure out plans, and give eachother comfort is it soooooo wrong?

I would honestly say it is disgusting if he is trying to make money from people after this terrible misfortune..... but if his site is encouraging people to think and raise awareness for Madeline.......?

I know it is wrong and I am not sticking up for him as I am not a member and have never given him one american dollar (well I am from London so that would actually be hard for me to do anyway).. but I dont understand why people are so adament in getting The Police involved and having Brian arrested?

O and I am new to the forum - maybe this wasn't the best way to say Hello!:tongue:

i see your point and its a valid one but he is leading people to believe his own point of view which is dangerous because the people that follow him are so focused oin what he says they are blind to everything else and that can only hurt a case like this

Bubblesxx
29th October 2007, 05:55 PM
Have any crimes or missing-person cases ever really been solved by some random person doing some amateur thinking based on public-domain information?

Sure, if a million people start guessing about what might have happened, some might end up being right, but if there's no way to tell the right from the mass of wrong theories, such people wouldn't be any practical use.

All I was saying that without the site people would not have had the chance to talk about it openly WITH THE HOPE that Brian is offering. Personally (no medium or dreams here) I believe she is alive. And if Brian is giving people that hope and positive energy...? I don't condone his taking money from people, but once again if they want to give it to him, what can we do? I mean they are all adults and can make up their own minds....... you can lead a horse to water..... :-[

Bubblesxx
29th October 2007, 05:59 PM
i see your point and its a valid one but he is leading people to believe his own point of view which is dangerous because the people that follow him are so focused oin what he says they are blind to everything else and that can only hurt a case like this

Thank you for 'seeing my point' I wasn't sure how clear I had become. I want to make it so so clear that I am not here to stick up for anyone, just interested in the whole debate to be honest. Quite ironic that I found your link from reading Brians site!

I understand what you are saying, but sometimes when everyone is thinking together and all reaching and aiming for the same goal, surely some good has got to come out of it. I mean people were emailing the McCanns and informing them - it was their choice not to follow that line of enquiry, but at least it was open to them...... The most important thing really is Madeline and her safe return, and I just hope that this will be the case.
If it does turn out to be something that Brian has said DIRECTLY (No guess work) would that make anyone here believers in psychic ability?! :-\

Bubblesxx
29th October 2007, 06:02 PM
He is raising funds, not awareness. People are already well aware the child is missing.

Yea, but he is keeping it in the public eye - children go missing all the time and people tend to worry for the first weeks/months and then go about their business. Like the papers have reported, this is the biggest missing persons case in history........ and hopefully that weill help to bring her back alive.

Members and followers log on everyday to tell eachother the news in the UK as - if you read the pages - a lot of the members are from international countries and want to know what is going on...... people are giving eachother support on that site and using eachothers ideas to try and find some sort of sense in this tragic tale....... x

tolman
29th October 2007, 06:15 PM
Yea, but he is keeping it in the public eye - children go missing all the time and people tend to worry for the first weeks/months and then go about their business. Like the papers have reported, this is the biggest missing persons case in history........ and hopefully that weill help to bring her back alive.

Members and followers log on everyday to tell eachother the news in the UK as - if you read the pages - a lot of the members are from international countries and want to know what is going on...... people are giving eachother support on that site and using eachothers ideas to try and find some sort of sense in this tragic tale....... x

It's in the public eye regardless of anything Brian does.
All the press coverage in the world can't reverse history, and the great probability is that events had run their course before the press started to report anything.

I'd wonder if people who don't know the missing child but feel they still need 'support' so many months later have some lack of things to worry about in real life.

All I was saying that without the site people would not have had the chance to talk about it openly WITH THE HOPE that Brian is offering.
Any shyster can 'offer hope' to the credulous by telling them what they want to hear, and many make a living out of doing precisely that.

FarSideOfTheMoon
29th October 2007, 06:40 PM
Brian is a total twat. Excuse my french, but he is.

I can't believe he is now posting stuff implying people on here are involved in Madeleine's disappearance.

http://www.briansdreams.com/MISSING/private/5441pagecaseclosed.htm






First, are you aware that someone has done a "full background" investigation on you _without your knowledge_? I presume that, besides being illegal, someone is giving himself more powers and airs than the mere keyboard as if our _very tight_ laws in that aspect would allow just anyone to do that LOL. Nevertheless, he is posing as a Mr. know-it-all to destroy everyone's efforts here. And since apparently they are writing from Portugal, at least it appears so, my question does not fall far behind as to their motives. Are they perhaps involved in the disappearance of Madeleine or in the wish that she not be found, uhmmmmmmmmm...


The rest of that page is vomit inducing as well.

FarSideOfTheMoon
29th October 2007, 06:48 PM
Yea, but he is keeping it in the public eye - children go missing all the time and people tend to worry for the first weeks/months and then go about their business. Like the papers have reported, this is the biggest missing persons case in history........ and hopefully that weill help to bring her back alive.

Members and followers log on everyday to tell eachother the news in the UK as - if you read the pages - a lot of the members are from international countries and want to know what is going on...... people are giving eachother support on that site and using eachothers ideas to try and find some sort of sense in this tragic tale....... x

Try Sky News or The Mirror or any of the other boards set up that talk Madeleine non-stop.

What you classify as news on his site, is complete conspiracy lunacy most of the time. I know, because I've read most of it. Some of the emails he has posted are from people who have an extremely thin grasp of reality. He is helping no one by posting all that crap.

bobdezon
29th October 2007, 06:51 PM
Ad hominums aside, but what a twat >:-)

Admin
29th October 2007, 07:10 PM
So he's convinced that Robert Murat has Madeleine in his villa (despite the police, dogs, forensics, etc. proving otherwise) and is prepared to go over to Portugal with this in mind and break into Murat's villa to rescue Madeleine?

And his followers actually think that by preventing this pathetic and illegal action that he's being prevented from rescuing Madeleine.

Just how stupid can people get? :-\

I've been a skeptic for a good few years now, and have seen all sorts of crazy ideas and beliefs, but the credulousness and stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

bindeweede
29th October 2007, 07:30 PM
I would prefer that you do for the benefit of all the wonderful people that visit your site and have embarked, one way or another, in helping to save little Madeleine.

So Brian has helped to save her. ?? By doing what, precisely.

bindeweede
29th October 2007, 08:17 PM
I still feel terribly concerned for Madeleine McCann, but you have done more than your share to help in the search for this little girl.

I must be missing something. Are these people deluded? All he has done is collect money for a cancelled trip to Portugal. Or have I got it all wrong?

MischiefMonkey
29th October 2007, 08:49 PM
"Another positive issue about the authorities wanting to arrest me...they must be close to solving this case if my interference would cause such problems."

Mad as a box of frogs.

Not because you are conspiring to break the law then Brian?

chillzero
29th October 2007, 09:23 PM
Yea, but he is keeping it in the public eye - children go missing all the time and people tend to worry for the first weeks/months and then go about their business. Like the papers have reported, this is the biggest missing persons case in history........ and hopefully that weill help to bring her back alive.


No.
It is not the biggest missing persons case in history. It may simply be the most hyped case in our living memory. This is a child - a normal child from a normal family - and only one child out of the hundreds who went missing from UK homes this year.

Brian is not really keeping it in the public eye - the case is rarely out of the headlines regardless of what Brian is doing to promote himself.

If you think he is doing no harm, then I have a link that you should read. It is the blog of a mother who's son went missing five years ago. She has a section on her blog dedicated to what happens when psychics involve themselves in these cases.
(Again, apologies for reposting this link - many of you know by now how important I believe this site is)
http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com...chics-and.html (http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com/2006/03/30606-pmp-introduction-to-psychics-and.html)

(in fact, John I'll start a thread on Kelly, to save me constantly reposting this)

Fabala
29th October 2007, 10:22 PM
All I was saying that without the site people would not have had the chance to talk about it openly WITH THE HOPE that Brian is offering.

I can't even begin to count the many message boards where there are people discussing this case from every angle... Brian has not offered something special that other sites haven't. Even the delusion that someone can solve her case through paranormal gifts... there are plenty of those kind of people haunting the message boards, as well. Brian has not brought one thing new to the situation... is act is old hat... he is a part of the dark underlying belly that plagues many missing person cases: he is a part of the psychic predators group. End of story...

If this child is ever found dead or alive, (though he has not done one thing to find her) he will take credit for being a part of solving her case. He did this with the Shawn Hornbeck case... which stands to be one of his biggest lies... he never had a hand in finding that child.

FarSideOfTheMoon
29th October 2007, 10:30 PM
He doesn't seem to have a hand in ANY missing person cases, despite his claims on his website.

He is a leech on society. (Sorry Bob, I know you hate ad homs ;))

bindeweede
29th October 2007, 10:54 PM
He doesn't seem to have a hand in ANY missing person cases, despite his claims on his website.

He is a leech on society. (Sorry Bob, I know you hate ad homs ;))

Farside.....personally, I feel you have no need to apologise at all. To anyone, for anything. "Leech, parasite, crook, criminal, loon, conman, manipulator of the credulous, exploiter of the deluded.....". It can go on. Well, that is my pennyworth.

FarSideOfTheMoon
29th October 2007, 10:59 PM
Farside.....personally, I feel you have no need to apologise at all. To anyone, for anything. "Leech, parasite, crook, criminal, loon, conman, manipulator of the credulous, exploiter of the deluded.....". It can go on. Well, that is my pennyworth.

You forgot 'moron' I think.

bindeweede
29th October 2007, 11:05 PM
You forgot 'moron' I think.

Yup!

Julia
29th October 2007, 11:17 PM
I find it incredible that anyone seriously believes Brian Ladd has offered "hope" in the Madeleine case, or that people like him are "helping" Madeleine by keeping her case in the public eye. :confused:

Please, let's get this straight: the only people who have really HELPED are the police officers, witnesses, members of the public who took part in the official search and those who have contributed money to offset the cost of all this.

People who have NOT helped in the least include psychics who have used the internet to post reams of rubbish about the case and used it to boost their careers, armchair detectives and everyone who has prayed for Madeleine's safe return.

As has been pointed out, Madeleine is just one of thousands of children in the world who go missing every year. The only remarkable aspect of the McCann case it the amount of attention it has received in the media and the scale of the "Find Madeleine" campaign. I would suggest that this is part of the problem - photos of Madeleine are so well-known from posters that they have become part of the landscape, we barely register them any more. And assuming that Madeleine survived more than a few hours after her abduction (which I think is highly unlikely), drawing attention to the distinctive markings in her right eye may actually have helped to sign her death warrant.

If there is anything to be learned from the McCann case it is this: DON'T LEAVE THREE YOUNG CHILDREN ALONE IN YOUR HOLIDAY APARTMENT WHILST YOU GO OUT FOR A MEAL! >:-)

bindeweede
29th October 2007, 11:37 PM
I find it incredible that anyone seriously believes Brian Ladd has offered "hope" in the Madeleine case, or that people like him are "helping" Madeleine by keeping her case in the public eye. :confused:

Please, let's get this straight: the only people who have really HELPED are the police officers, witnesses, members of the public who took part in the official search and those who have contributed money to offset the cost of all this.

People who have NOT helped in the least include psychics who have used the internet to post reams of rubbish about the case and used it to boost their careers, armchair detectives and everyone who has prayed for Madeleine's safe return.

As has been pointed out, Madeleine is just one of thousands of children in the world who go missing every year. The only remarkable aspect of the McCann case it the amount of attention it has received in the media and the scale of the "Find Madeleine" campaign. I would suggest that this is part of the problem - photos of Madeleine are so well-known from posters that they have become part of the landscape, we barely register them any more. And assuming that Madeleine survived more than a few hours after her abduction (which I think is highly unlikely), drawing attention to the distinctive markings in her right eye may actually have helped to sign her death warrant.

If there is anything to be learned from the McCann case it is this: DON'T LEAVE THREE YOUNG CHILDREN ALONE IN YOUR HOLIDAY APARTMENT WHILST YOU GO OUT FOR A MEAL! >:-)

I would have thought ------ "all credibility lost" ---------------
except in the good old USA.

Bubblesxx
29th October 2007, 11:45 PM
I find it incredible that anyone seriously believes Brian Ladd has offered "hope" in the Madeleine case, or that people like him are "helping" Madeleine by keeping her case in the public eye. :confused:

Please, let's get this straight: the only people who have really HELPED are the police officers, witnesses, members of the public who took part in the official search and those who have contributed money to offset the cost of all this.

People who have NOT helped in the least include psychics who have used the internet to post reams of rubbish about the case and used it to boost their careers, armchair detectives and everyone who has prayed for Madeleine's safe return.

As has been pointed out, Madeleine is just one of thousands of children in the world who go missing every year. The only remarkable aspect of the McCann case it the amount of attention it has received in the media and the scale of the "Find Madeleine" campaign. I would suggest that this is part of the problem - photos of Madeleine are so well-known from posters that they have become part of the landscape, we barely register them any more. And assuming that Madeleine survived more than a few hours after her abduction (which I think is highly unlikely), drawing attention to the distinctive markings in her right eye may actually have helped to sign her death warrant.

If there is anything to be learned from the McCann case it is this: DON'T LEAVE THREE YOUNG CHILDREN ALONE IN YOUR HOLIDAY APARTMENT WHILST YOU GO OUT FOR A MEAL! >:-)

Which is exactly what I have said. This is the biggest missing persons case in media history despite the thousands of children that go missing every year.

You stating your personal opinions that the children should never have been left alone in the apartment doesnt actually help anybody - except you perhaps as it may have made you feel better getting it off your chest. Those parents are going through enough heartache and guilt and have already admitted that they have done wrong but you cannot turn back time.......Otherwise everybodys lives would be different in some way or another.

bindeweede
30th October 2007, 12:04 AM
This is the biggest missing persons case in media history despite the thousands of children that go missing every year.

Why? Idiotic.

kmj
30th October 2007, 12:07 AM
I have been following Brians site for months - reason the c*** that is coming out of portugal and from the press around the world is devastating to say the least, especially as I have a young daughter too, (would never leave her alone I might add). I read and believe what I feel is nessessary, some is rubbish and some not so rubbish as you will see I am sceptical too! I am also a very together person not a crack pot.

Brians site has been a comfort and has given me a different view on the investigation as a whole. This site has also aspects which have to be taken into account and as the name suggests 'skeptics' it is true to its name.

However I do feel that td17 is a farce, imitating a police officer is a criminal offence. Claiming to have completed a background check on Brian - Oh come on are you all mad?

Oh im going to do a background check on Td17- do you believe me? I think not

And if you are an ex policeman and have access to personal information about people I would be questioning the police force in the UK! I think you are a failed CSO not a hardworking, digified and honest copper!

All you have done td17 is to use a cheap credit check software you a** and are decieving people on this forum. Oh and I "couldn't care a kipper" what you think of me. But I dare say you will start another hate thread, and I will not be donating to either site especially this one. Where is the evidence of expendeture for this site hey?

We are all allowed an opinion!.O0

siestatime
30th October 2007, 12:12 AM
Hello to you too kmj

Admin
30th October 2007, 12:13 AM
Brians site has been a comfort and has given me a different view on the investigation as a whole.

Considering that he's been outed as a fraud, would you care to tell us where you have gained 'comfort' (note: virtue word) from?

I'm very keen to understand where you've drawn your 'comfort' from and how and why Brian has provided it.

Please expand on your claim so we can understand it. O0

MischiefMonkey
30th October 2007, 12:13 AM
Which is exactly what I have said. This is the biggest missing persons case in media history despite the thousands of children that go missing every year.

You stating your personal opinions that the children should never have been left alone in the apartment doesnt actually help anybody - except you perhaps as it may have made you feel better getting it off your chest. Those parents are going through enough heartache and guilt and have already admitted that they have done wrong but you cannot turn back time.......Otherwise everybodys lives would be different in some way or another.

In part it is the total disbelief that any educated, rational adult could leave three children under four alone while they went off to eat tapas at a quiz night that has kept this in the media attention. Far more than Brian.

As statistically improbable as it is, I - as would 100% of people - would love it if Madeleine turned up alive. It would mean hope for every Ben Needham. But, realistically, I don't think it will happen.