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bindeweede
10th September 2007, 03:51 PM
"Test The Nation" results....

http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=512

MRT
10th September 2007, 06:23 PM
But what do IQ tests really measure ... ? :smiley:

bindeweede
10th September 2007, 07:15 PM
But what do IQ tests really measure ... ? :smiley:

From the page......


and includes questions on logic, perception and visual reasoning as well as testing your powers of observation and memory.

Muttley
11th September 2007, 11:56 AM
But what do IQ tests really measure ... ? :smiley:

I think it's widely accepted that they principally measure the ability to do IQ tests.

I have a friend who got a 1st class honours degree in biochemistry, a Masters degree then a PhD, then worked up to become senior R&D manager for a major chemical/pharmaceutical company. But he couldn't do an IQ test to save his life.....

But going back to the "Test the Nation" results, the article says that the average IQ in the UK is 100, but the winning group (surgeons) only averaged 101, and every other group was below the notional national average. It's difficult to comment on this without seeing all the individual scores, but it would seem that either the tests/results were not properly "normalised" (for which read "fiddled"), or they just happened to pick a bunch of thickos to do the tests.

But anyway, the clairvoyants came last, quite a bit below the next group (removal men).

Q.E.D., I think.;)

M.

FarSideOfTheMoon
11th September 2007, 12:07 PM
Indeed, in this instance, let us not worry about the method, let's just laugh :cheesy:

John Jackson
11th September 2007, 12:11 PM
Just what I was going to put!

We can't take this result seriously in any way but it is highly amusing. ;D

Cuddles
11th September 2007, 01:32 PM
But going back to the "Test the Nation" results, the article says that the average IQ in the UK is 100, but the winning group (surgeons) only averaged 101, and every other group was below the notional national average. It's difficult to comment on this without seeing all the individual scores, but it would seem that either the tests/results were not properly "normalised" (for which read "fiddled"), or they just happened to pick a bunch of thickos to do the tests.

Either that or it vindicates everything physicians say about surgeons.;)

median
11th September 2007, 11:09 PM
Either that or it vindicates everything physicians say about surgeons.


Nurse, this patient needs a skeptidectomy...;D

bindeweede
11th September 2007, 11:18 PM
I think it's widely accepted that they principally measure the ability to do IQ tests.

I have a friend who got a 1st class honours degree in biochemistry, a Masters degree then a PhD, then worked up to become senior R&D manager for a major chemical/pharmaceutical company. But he couldn't do an IQ test to save his life.....

But going back to the "Test the Nation" results, the article says that the average IQ in the UK is 100, but the winning group (surgeons) only averaged 101, and every other group was below the notional national average. It's difficult to comment on this without seeing all the individual scores, but it would seem that either the tests/results were not properly "normalised" (for which read "fiddled"), or they just happened to pick a bunch of thickos to do the tests.

But anyway, the clairvoyants came last, quite a bit below the next group (removal men).

Q.E.D., I think.;)

M.

Whether the figures are "normalised" or not, the clairvoyants would still come out bottom, I presume. But wouldn't they have known the questions before they were asked, as they are Cvs, and wouldn't they have known the answers too?

But, don't tell me, it doesn't actually work like that:cheesy:

wooo_oops
12th September 2007, 10:19 AM
Whether the figures are "normalised" or not, the clairvoyants would still come out bottom, I presume. But wouldn't they have known the questions before they were asked, as they are Cvs, and wouldn't they have known the answers too?

But, don't tell me, it doesn't actually work like that:cheesy:

Now now, you know they're not allowed to ask their spirit guides anything which might result in personal gain. Like lottery numbers...;)

FarSideOfTheMoon
12th September 2007, 10:26 AM
They knew the answer to one the questions started with a 'J' or it could have been a 'T' though

Muttley
12th September 2007, 10:36 AM
Whether the figures are "normalised" or not, the clairvoyants would still come out bottom, I presume.

Absolutely. It might expand or contract the range of results, or shift the frame up or down, but the relative positions would stay the same.

But wouldn't they have known the questions before they were asked, as they are Cvs, and wouldn't they have known the answers too?


Perhaps they deliberately gave the wrong answers, to throw everybody off the scent.;D

M.

bindeweede
12th September 2007, 10:40 AM
Absolutely. It might expand or contract the range of results, or shift the frame up or down, but the relative positions would stay the same.



Perhaps they deliberately gave the wrong answers, to throw everybody off the scent.;D

M.

Well, I have to say, I never thought of that one;). Coming out bottom, will, in a paranormal, mystical and spiritual way, in fact mean, they came out top;D

FarSideOfTheMoon
12th September 2007, 11:10 AM
Well, I have to say, I never thought of that one;). Coming out bottom, will, in a paranormal, mystical and spiritual way, in fact mean, they came out top;D

Who deliberately would have given the wrong answers though - the psychics or their spirit guides?