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bindeweede
6th September 2007, 05:39 PM
I recently came across this in "Quackwatch"

If you have happy thoughts, then you make happy molecules. On the other hand, if you have sad thoughts, and angry thoughts, and hostile thoughts, then you make those molecules which may depress the immune system and make you more susceptible to disease.


Apparently, it's a quite from Deepak Chopra. There is quite a lengthy article here .


http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/chopra.html

Now, what do happy thoughts make.....................:cheesy:

Allo Allo
6th September 2007, 09:08 PM
I recently came across this in "Quackwatch"

If you have happy thoughts, then you make happy molecules. On the other hand, if you have sad thoughts, and angry thoughts, and hostile thoughts, then you make those molecules which may depress the immune system and make you more susceptible to disease.


Apparently, it's a quite from Deepak Chopra. There is quite a lengthy article here .


http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/chopra.html

Now, what do happy thoughts make.....................:cheesy:

Well, I think there is no argument that happiness makes health - do we know how? Maybe Chopra's got a point. Have you got a better explanation? Has quackwatch?

Love, caring, dedication - and happiness? can do this! (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/05/2024290.htm)That's an amazing thing to happen to molecules!

bindeweede
6th September 2007, 09:26 PM
Well, I think there is no argument that happiness makes health - do we know how? Maybe Chopra's got a point. Have you got a better explanation? Has quackwatch?

Love, caring, dedication - and happiness? can do this! (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/05/2024290.htm)That's an amazing thing to happen to molecules!

Mental and environmental stimulation is good for everyone, whatever their age. But he is coming up with.....

Chopra claims that herbs prescribed in ayurvedic treatment "take the intelligence of the universe and match it with the intelligence of our own body

Tosh.

bindeweede
6th September 2007, 10:05 PM
Can anyone please translate this into English.

http://www.chopra.com/123844.html

Please press the button below to generate another pile of meaningless garbage.



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Even more,

Deepak Chopra, will coach you on how to harness the power of coincidence, align yourself with the universe and take your life to the next level.

Allo Allo
7th September 2007, 12:10 AM
Hey! your post was headed "Happy thoughts=happy molecules" I just said maybe he has a point! I dunno actually. Please don't hit me with all his other stuff......not my fault!>:-)

Happiness can make people healthy - I don't know why. Do you?

Where's your beer? Had enough? ;D I got quite a start to find you without it! :tongue:

bindeweede
7th September 2007, 12:20 AM
Hey! your post was headed "Happy thoughts=happy molecules" I just said maybe he has a point! I dunno actually. Please don't hit me with all his other stuff......not my fault!>:-)

Happiness can make people healthy - I don't know why. Do you?

Where's your beer? Had enough? ;D I got quite a start to find you without it! :tongue:

Well, as you know the "happy thoughts" was a quote.

This - Where's your beer? Had enough? ;D I got quite a start to find you without it! :tongue:.....

I just do not understand???
And, sorry, "quite" should have read "quote". But you know what I mean.

Allo Allo
7th September 2007, 12:24 AM
This - Where's your beer? Had enough? ;D I got quite a start to find you without it! :tongue:.....

I just do not understand???
And, sorry, "quite" should have read "quote". But you know what I mean.
You have changed your Avatar! :smiley: I was showing you I noticed!

bindeweede
7th September 2007, 12:29 AM
You have changed your Avatar! :smiley: I was showing you I noticed!

Well, I decided my avatar should reflect my intellectual capabilities:-\.

No need to fall out, eh:smiley:. I love this forum - it has given my little brain something to work on.

Araneus
7th September 2007, 09:43 AM
Happiness can make people healthy - I don't know why. Do you?

It's to do with hormones and biochemistry, such as levels of cortisol and adrenaline which vary with stress. There is also an extent to which happy people are more likely to spend time trying to be healthy, wherease unhappy people just don't care.

The "happy molecules" thing is almost kind-of right, but expressed very stupidly with a whole load of other crap which is totally meaningless.

Allo Allo
7th September 2007, 10:13 AM
Well, I decided my avatar should reflect my intellectual capabilities:-\.

No need to fall out, eh:smiley:. I love this forum - it has given my little brain something to work on.

I am your uk skep friend! I was simply interested in the idea of happy molecules that might be "almost kind-of right" as Araneus explained - thanks Araneus. :smiley:

Your new avatar "becomes" you not because of the intellectual capacity (don't put yourself down) but because of the fine features, the gentle expression, the warmth of the smile, and the relaxed pose. Could I say more?

Your friend,

median
11th September 2007, 10:46 PM
Hello.

Meant to post some time ago but...:-\

With reference to the title
Happy thoughts=happy molecules
I remember, from some time ago, an area of research regarding nervous system/immune system interactions

Trawling the net see http://www.personalityresearch.org/papers/beaton.html


Schizophrenia and the Immune System
There is a considerable amount of evidence that schizophrenic patients have longer healing times after major surgeries. A study investigated the levels of plasma interleukin in the blood of twenty-five control and schizophrenics during all stages of the surgery process of hemicolectomy and sigmoidectomy. Plasma IL-8 levels were significantly lower in the schizophrenic patients after surgery. Plasma cortisol concentrations were significantly lower during surgery for the schizophrenic patients as well. The conclusion of the study was that schizophrenic patients had a reduced ability for cytokine to fight inflammations. The reason for the findings could be explained by a schizophrenic's hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal dysfunction. The endocrine system has close interactions with the immune system (Kudoh, Sakai, Ishiria, & Matsuki, 2001).

Probably doesn't have any relevance to the stuff Chopra is dishing out ::)
On the other hand, if you have sad thoughts, and angry thoughts, and hostile thoughts, then you make those molecules which may depress the immune system and make you more susceptible to disease.
However, an interesting avenue to explore nonetheless....

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